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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:45 am
[All information taken directly from Divash's post. Thank you very much! biggrin 3nodding ]
Baptism vs. Mikvahs There's a reason it sounds like baptism. Baptism is a ritual stolen adapted directly from Judaism for Christian purposes.The philosophies and purposes of the two are different, however.
Baptism happens once in a person's life, generally, and is used explicitly and solely for the purpose of bringing the individual into the Christian covenantal society. It is said to wash away sins and make the individual spiritually clean in order to be able to serve Jesus as a newborn being for the rest of his or her life. Baptism is the act; the facility is called the church (building) or the font (actual body of water, if the water isn't a river or lake).
What is a Mikvah?
Mikvah is the name of the immersion facility (both the building and the body of water; also applies to natural bodies of water which are outside buildings), not the immersion itself. The immersion itself is called t'vilah (immersion). Instead of once in life, mikvah immersion takes place many times. Some people bring baby daughters for immersion as part of a b'rit bat, or simchat bat (covenant of daughter, or joy of daughter -- new ceremonies to welcome daughters into the covenant of Judaism, meant to be parallel with the circumcision of boys). I know one family that lets each daughter immerse once during the week before becoming bat mitzvah and once after her first menstrual cycle, whichever comes first. After that, a girl/woman doesn't immerse again until four (or fewer) days before her wedding. Then she counts her days... I'm not going to describe the feminine process here, but suffice it to say she immerses about once a month for the rest of her married life, barring pregnancy, until she is past childbearing age.
Boys and men immerse as well. Some only do so in the days leading up to marriage, while others do so in preparation for any important milestone, or right after an important milestone -- a birthday, an aliyah, starting a new tractate of Talmud study, completing a tractate, whatever. Others immerse every time they have an emission (again, I'm not going to discuss the masculine process here, but if you're male, PM a knowledgeable male on this guild and I'm sure he'll clue you in). Some immerse every single morning before Torah study; these tend to be Chasidim, but not always. Unlike women, men don't have to immerse singly. I've known communities in which all the students of a given rabbi will go and immerse in a group, then dress and go to Torah study; it's a very spiritual experience, I'm told.
What is the purpose of a mikvah?
Unlike baptism, mikvah is not meant to wash away sin or wrongdoing. There is a difference between sin, uncleanliness, and impurity. Sin means actively engaging in doing something wrong, or actively avoiding doing something that would have been the right thing to do, or even doing something wrong accidentally or because one didn't know it was wrong. Uncleanliness refers to physical dirt, grit, grime, sweat -- the filth of the physical world. Impurity is neither of these things, and it's not a great word to use as a translation for the term tum'ah (impurity) or tamei (impure), as contrasted with the terms tahor (pure) and taharah (purity). Unlike sin versus virtue or uncleanness versus cleanness, the status of tum'ah does not carry within it an inherent need for its reversal. The only real benefit to becoming tahor versus tum'ah is that once one is tahor again, one can enjoy marital relations with one's bashert. Every single time one immerses in the mikvah, one is reborn, as it were, as a brand new being, as pure as the day one was born.
But it does not free us from the obligation of correcting our misdeeds.(1) Judaism opines that wrongdoing cannot be erased, but can be corrected through sincere repentence -- being faced with similar circumstances that lead to a previous wrongdoing, but doing right instead -- and making amends. Not by washing in a baptismal font. (2) And rather than immersing only one time, we are reborn many times. (3) Also, we do not rid ourselves of wrongdoing by shifting the blame from ourselves onto a human or half-divine sacrifice. We, and we alone, carry our own responsibilities and answer for ourselves.
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:35 pm
Only one thing more I would add to what I wrote before. IF YOU ARE A WOMAN, you can go visit http://www.yoatzot.org for more information. I find this site invaluable myself, and learn quite a bit there on an ongoing basis. If you are male, please don't go there. You can learn this information from your rabbi, from your own chevruta/Talmud study, or from your wife. The women who run the website intend their words to be shared only with women, to protect their own modesty, so please respect that decision and go to sources that males can use.
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Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:26 am
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:46 am
I don't see why not? This isn't a discussion thing yet, and if it becomes so, then I guess the females will just ask you to leave?
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:47 am
I thought I would add this helpful site. If you plan to be on vacation or otherwise away from home during your time to visit the mikvah, you might be able to find one listed at http://www.mikvah.orgAlso, there are books published every year with titles something like "Jewish Traveler's Guide 2007" or thereabouts. Any Jewish bookstore, Judaica store, or Jewish website should have them. In addition to listing (some/many/most) kosher restaurants in a given city or area, they'll almost always list the mikvaot, if they have one.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:36 am
Mikvah Opening On Sunday, I attended the grand opening of my community's new mikvah. Mind you, the city already has half a dozen, but they're all way to the north side of town; there weren't any within walking distance of my home and synagogue. As grand openings often do, this one started with a good many speeches. Some simply thanked all the donors and the committee members for their financial contributions or their personal contributions of time, skills, and energy. A couple of visiting rabbis and mikvah-kashrut supervisors declared definitively that this mikvah was a kosher one by all standards, thanks to the dual-tank technology that would honor both the Chasidic and the non-Chasidic interpretations of the mikvah laws. The principle donors (those who contributed the most financially to our mikvah's construction, and after whose deceased family member our mikvah is named) spoke movingly about their relative, may he rest in peace, and about why they chose to donate his sizable life insurance policy towards our mikvah. Finally our rabbi spoke with great excitement and passion about how important this mikvah is to all of us, enabling us to finally consider our community's Jewish amenities complete (though a kosher deli would be nice) and to allow each Jewish family to keep the laws of family purity with much greater ease. He also made a point of saying that ANY Jewish woman was welcome to use this mikvah. Not just the Orthodox, not just the members of our congregation. Any woman who identifies herself as Jewish, whether born Jewish, converted by Orthodox means, or converted by non-Orthodox means; whether she's married, a bride within four days of her wedding, unmarried, gay (with or without a partner), or in an interfaith relationship/marriage; if she's Reform, whether it's her mother or her father whose Jewish lineage she claims. (The only use to which this mikvah can't be put is that of conversion; all conversions in our city must take place at a specific mikvah, by consensus of all the rabbis of our area, because only that mikvah has room in the immersion room for all three rabbis, an attendant, and the immersing convert to stand safely and not jostle someone accidentally into the pool. It's a practical conern, not a political one.) It sounds like a lot of talking, but it really only took about twenty minutes, in all. There were a few photographers and videographers there to record the whole proceedings, as well. Then it was time for the ribbon-cutting ceremony, which was very short. Our principle donors simply stepped up with their scissors held between them, paused to allow the news cameras to get a shot, and cut the ribbon. There was lots of cheering. Then while the principle donors and visiting dignitaries got the honor of the first tour, the rest of us went down to the synagogue basement for champagne, cheese, fruit, and sweets. Continued in next post.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:12 am
Mikvah Opening, Part 2 I went in with the last tour group. I figured I could wait, seeing as how I'd already seen the mikvah during the construction phase. All I hadn't really seen was the finished product, with all the fixtures and plaques and decor in place. Our mikvah location is very private. To get to the mikvah, you go outside the synagogue, to the back parking lot, away from prying eyes. Entering the first door, you step into a small room. Really small -- I think about 5 feet in front of you, and eight feet out to the right, because you enter at the left edge of the room. On the far right is the attendant's seat, arranged that way to allow people to enter without tripping over the attendant, and without her getting in the way of wheelchairs. The walls and floors throughout the mikvah structure are porcelain tile, made to very closely resemble Jerusalem stone, and as an amateur potter and architecture fan, I can tell you that they are VERY hard to distinguish from the real thing. The lighting throughout the entire structure is quite bright, yet not harsh, somehow -- a very soft, soothing, non-glaring light. The walls contain two plaques in the entryway, both of etched glass. One lists the top ten donors, and the other contains a few Biblical quotes concerning mikvah, water, and/or holiness; they sound very romantic when all placed together like that. Next time I'm there, I'll try to take a picture or write down what's on the plaques so I can post about it. There's also a coat closet behind the attendant's desk, and one can sit on a little loveseat to await her turn to go inside. There's a thermostat system in place, keeping the temperature warm and comfortable. For additional comfort, all the floors in the place are heated, with the exception of the entryway. When the attendant calls you inside, you'll enter through another door and be shown to one of two preparation rooms. The only difference between them is that one is larger, to accommodate wheelchair users or those who need or want someone's assistance in preparing. Each room contains a very white porcelain sink set in a granite countertop with attractively shaped stainless steel fixtures, a very white toilet, and a very white bubbling spa/jacuzzi tub with an enormous 'rainfall' showerhead, meant to provide the most relaxing, thorough shower and a feeling of great luxury. A towel rack holds a towel for your body and another for your hair, and a hook on the wall holds a terrycloth bathrobe. These things are changed out for every single guest at the mikvah. There's also a small table in each room which holds a basket of the supplies most often forgotten by people packing their mikvah preparation bags: toothpaste and disposable toothbrushes, dental floss, shampoo and a comb, fingernail clippers and brushes and emery boards, nail polish remover and cotton balls, facial cleanser, and packets of disposable slippers. The idea is to be thoroughly, scrupulously clean before immersing. One removes all nail polish, all jewellery, and combs her hair straight (or, ahem, as straight as is possible) to get all the tangles out -- sorry, no weaves, hair extensions, cornrows, or other hairstyles that can't be removed/unwound during mikvah prep. Atop the sink countertop sits a picture frame which holds a beautifully calligraphed checklist of what one should do during mikvah preparation before calling the attendant. Once you're ready, you'll put on your robe, then call the attendant to give you one last check. She'll check your neck and back for stray hairs; other details, she'll check only if you ask her to do so. This is also where a mikvah attendant performs a discreet but vital service to the community: she checks each woman for stray hairs, but also for bruises, scratches, or other scars or injuries. If she sees any, she'll ask, "Is everything all right at home?" or something to that effect -- nothing overt, like "Is your husband beating you?" but just something to let a woman know that she cares, and is willing to help if needed. The mikvah attendants are trained in how to contact Shalva, a referral organization that helps Jewish women deal with domestic abuse by providing referrals to therapists, doctors, shelters, legal assistance, and so on. After checking yourself and being checked by the attendant, you're ready for the next step. So you'll put your robe back on, slip on a pair of disposable slippers, and the attendant will lead you to the next room: the immersion room. Continued in next post.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:26 am
Mikvah Opening, Part 3 The immersion room is the grandest of all the rooms. It's shaped like an elongated D, with the curvy part at the far side from the entrance. The floor tiles are heated here too, and all that faux Jerusalem stone looks amazing, with the bright-yet-subtle lighting and the cove ceiling. The pool itself contains a different kind of tile, actual stone rather than porcelain, and a discreet mosaic effect just slightly higher than the level of the water line. If she wants to bring some, a woman can bring candles on plates/holders to light around the room to enhance her experience. You'll face the pool and away from the attendant and open your robe. The attendant will take the robe from you, keeping it held high above her face so she can't see you. You walk down the steps into the water. The pool is quite small, only about 6 feet by 6 feet (maybe two meters square), but big enough for three people to enter if someone needs assistance or if a bride wants to bring her mother or sister or best friend in to attend her for a more festive celebration of her first mikvah. Once you're in the water, the attendant will lower the robe so that she can see you, but you're facing away from her. You say your blessings and immerse, however many times as your tradition calls for. The attendant will wait after each immersion until your head's above the water, and then declare your immersion "Kosher!" or "Better try that one again." She's watching to see whether any part of you makes contact with the mikvah wall or floor, and whether your hair is fully submerged. (She's also making another discreet check for bruises or other visible injuries.) Once you've done the immersions that your tradition calls for (some call for one, some two, some three), the attendant raises the robe again to cover her face so that you can come out of the water in privacy. You'll take the robe from her and put it back on, and usually the mikvah attendant will smile or wish you mazal tov (congratulations, but it also means 'good luck', a wish that your mikvah night will continue to go beautifully) as she leads you back to your preparation room. Once back in, you dry off fully, dress again, and can go out into the night. On your way out, you'll pass by the keilim mikvah (vessel immersion tank) where people can immerse their dishes before using them, to make them ready for use in a kosher kitchen. That's the back exit, and it leads out to the private parking lot, so that your entrance and exit from the mikvah facility are guarded and private, and the exact timing of a woman's immersion (which relates to her menstrual cycle, as well as to the on-and-off sexual relationship of her marriage) is kept private.
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:29 pm
That sounds amazing; thank you so much for posting all of that!
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:52 am
At some point when I'm the mikvah attendant on duty, I'll try to take some pictures of the facility and post them.
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:18 pm
That would be great Divash! I find them so interesting, but the closest one to me is in Oklahoma. :
The description actually reminds me of the bath houses in Hot Springs, but I don't know if you've ever been there. They probably take a lot of their regulations from the mikveh, because Hot Springs used to have a very heavy Jewish population, and I think it still does.
I'd totally love pictures though. I've seen some really luxe mikveh's in my day, so I'm curious.
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:41 am
I did visit Hot Springs once when I was really little, but we didn't visit the actual spings or bath houses. What are the regulations there? By the way, anyone who wants to see what some mikvaot look like, go have a gander at http://mikvah.org/directory/mikvahPhotos.asp?pageNumber=1 -- They've got pictures of nearly 100 mikvaot from around the world. Some of them are spa-like and gorgeous, while others are very utilitarian, but essentially they're all the same mikvah, and they're all filled with water that gushed out of the river in the Garden of Eden.
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:29 am
That's so cool; thank you for the link! I didn't even know they had one in Missouri! biggrin
If you don't mind me asking, is there some sort of specific requirement or age limit for mikvahs, or can anybody do it?
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:20 pm
Honey, if there's a mikvah in Georgia, there's gotta be one in Missouri. If I'm not mistaken, there are quite a few Orthodox communities in the state as well.
But about the bath houses, I don't think they could actually have a mikvah because they don't have large enough pools, but it would be totally awesome! The water would be warm naturally. biggrin
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:03 pm
There is no specific age limit for men. Some men go there with their rebbe, fellow students, even their sons. They all splash about, talk Torah, and then get out and dress and go about their day.
For women, the mitzvah is to immerse alone, just you and Hashem in the water. Orhodoxically speaking, a woman isn't permitted to go to the mikvah until four (or less) days before her wedding; it's meant to discourage one from having pre-marital relations. However, some Reform and Conservative Jews do go for more occasions, and a few Orthodox are starting to take up the practice. I know a woman who's taken all three of her daughters to mikvah several times. Once just after being born, once before their first day of school, once before they become bat mitzvah, once before graduating high school. Sadly, I also know women who have immersed after being sexually assaulted; they felt they needed something to 'wash off' the filth of the experience and feel renewed again. I think it's a good idea, though I hate the fact that it's ever needed.
Of course, converts also immerse as part of their conversion process; it's the final step. You enter the water a non-Jew, and you immerse, and you come up as a Jew.
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Kingpin: The pools don't need to be very big. Just four feet square, and at least four feet deep for the water. Just enough for even a very large person to get in, duck all the way under including all her hair, and stand up again.
If you want to immerse, find a mikvah run by a Conservative community, or one that permits non-Orthodox women to immerse.
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