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 Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:19 pm
Let's say I, for whatever reason, decided to get baptized. If I then confessed, what would happen if I couldn't remember all of my sins and confess to them?
Because I honestly can't remember how many times I've sinned. A lot.
And what about people who can't talk?
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:50 pm
Well, you wouldn't be saved in the first place, because simple actions aren't enough. God can read minds, remember.
Which, of course, would be part of the actual answer. God can read minds, so mute people are fine if they just think about it. As well, confession is not necessary for absolution, so you wouldn't need to worry about that. As well, once you are saved, you gain a sort of limited permanent grace. That is to say that, all those sins that you don't know you've comitted get forgiven along with those other sins that you do know you've done.
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:03 pm
Cometh The Inquisitor Well, you wouldn't be saved in the first place, because simple actions aren't enough. God can read minds, remember. Which, of course, would be part of the actual answer. God can read minds, so mute people are fine if they just think about it. As well, confession is not necessary for absolution, so you wouldn't need to worry about that. As well, once you are saved, you gain a sort of limited permanent grace. That is to say that, all those sins that you don't know you've comitted get forgiven along with those other sins that you do know you've done. So why even bother confessing?
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:12 pm
Lethkhar So why even bother confessing? Beyond me. Of course, I'm not exactly catholic, so I wouldn't really know.
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:03 pm
Not totally sure. I think confession is also quite considerable in faith since it's the first step of getting closer to the Lord.
"So why even bother confessing?"
maybe because as humans, since we are able to make choices, we are showing to the Lord that we've done the first step as shown in a decision to let Him be the leader in our lives. Like even though we know that He knows what we've done, He's probably just waiting for us to express it/them ourselves.
I think confession/letting someone know about sins will encourage the 'confesser' to try and do better to minimize commiting sins.
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:04 pm
OnoBoei Not totally sure. I think confession is also quite considerable in faith since it's the first step of getting closer to the Lord. "So why even bother confessing?" maybe because as humans, since we are able to make choices, we are showing to the Lord that we've done the first step as shown in a decision to let Him be the leader in our lives. Like even though we know that He knows what we've done, He's probably just waiting for us to express it/them ourselves. I think confession/letting someone know about sins will encourage the 'confesser' to try and do better to minimize commiting sins. yes..that is a very good explanation. i think that confession is basically for you to get right in front of God and to realise what you have done wrong and to try to put it right. It doesn't really matter if you forgot some or most..as long as you know that you have sinned and you ask for the forgiveness of God then thats ok.
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:06 pm
I'm not Catholic but I think the idea behind confession is you're telling someone something very personal that you're ashamed of. I think that sometimes can make it really set into your mind what you've done. Kinda like you never realize how bad a thought about someone is until you've said it?
I don't really buy into the whole "say 25 Hail Marys and all is forgiven" but I think it's a tool that can be used for repentance.
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:03 pm
thelovelyLIZ I'm not Catholic but I think the idea behind confession is you're telling someone something very personal that you're ashamed of. I think that sometimes can make it really set into your mind what you've done. Kinda like you never realize how bad a thought about someone is until you've said it? I don't really buy into the whole "say 25 Hail Marys and all is forgiven" but I think it's a tool that can be used for repentance.
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:25 am
We all know that we can go before God and confess and repent of our sins, but we also know that some of our sins hold us in shame and condemnation. Sometimes we have to confess to our brothers and sisters in Christ so then the Light and Blood of Christ can come into that situation and moment, and brake down every lie and argument the devil might have against us and brake the arguments that are bound in our minds. Its not a bad thing to confess, but always be mindful to confess to people you truly trust... A Leader, a Pastor, or a friend, don't throw your heart before swine.... *nods*
As for what happens if we don't remember all of our Sins at the moment.... Its okay the Blood of Jesus covers you when you repent before God, He does remember all your sins, but at the moment you repent it is washed away... If we are willing though God will speak to us of Past sins that we might need to repent of. God does love us, and His Grace and Mercy is more then enough for us. He doesn't look at you and go, "why can't you remember that you stole when you where two years old?" He does how ever say I love you my son/daughter with an everlasting love, and I will wash away all the sin from your life if you truly give me all of your life and let me into all the areas of your life.
I hope that this might have helped a bit... I was just gonna pass on this subject, but as always the Lord put it on my heart to actually write/talk about it. Be Blessed and Be Well in the Name of Jesus Christ.
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:37 am
I used to be Catholic so I can kinda answer this question. First off, from a Bible believing Christian perspective (not a particular denomination) confession is something you should do to keep yourself accountable. People are more aware of their sins and aware of when they're sinning when they know they'll have to be telling another human being what they've done wrong. For some reason, it's not enough to know that God is constantly watching and always knows the good and bad things you've done. I guess it's just part of human nature. So you don't have to go to a priest to confess your sins. Any other Christian man- preferably someone who's been saved longer, because they are stronger and can pull you up- would do. Women should have women accountability partners, just because men and women are different and sin in different ways.
As for Catholic doctrine, Peter was considered the first Pope. Jesus, speaking to Peter and the apostles, said, "Whoever's sins you forgive on Earth shall be forgiven, and whoever's sins you retain shall be retained." Priests and Popes, in Catholicism, are believed to be descendent from Peter and the apostles (not by blood, by training), so that that power to forgive or not forgive sins was given only to them. In my opinion, Jesus is the only One who can forgive sins. No priest or Pope is gonna tell me I have to say a certain prayer in order to be forgiven and have entry to Heaven. My God died for me so I could have that.
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:13 pm
Quote: Acts 22:16 (New International Version) New International Version (NIV) Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society 16And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name.' Baptism is having sin washed away. The process of Paul's conversion is expressed in chapter 22 of Acts, and 'occurred' in chapter 9 of Acts. Ananias was sent by the Lord to Paul due to his prayer. When Ananias was speaking to Paul, verse 16 is in part of what he said to him. Quote: Result of search for "confess": 437. anthomologeomai anth-om-ol-og-eh'-om-ahee from 473 and the middle voice of 3670; to confess in turn, i.e. respond in praise:--give thanks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1843. exomologeo ex-om-ol-og-eh'-o from 1537 and 3670; to acknowledge or (by implication, of assent) agree fully:--confess, profess, promise. Source: Strong's Concordance.The above is the equivalent of "confess" in a Biblical sense. The context surrounding the mention of confess would entail the meaning behind the Greek terms. When the Bible tells us to "confess" our sin(s), I in no way see it as mentioning every "deed" we have done by wrong-doing under any 'subtype' of sin. And by subtype I am meaning the mention of a group of sins. Say for example in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 there is a list showing many sins, same as 1 Timothy 1:9-11. And there are more. For further example, if one man lied to another, the sin committed was not done so against the man lied to but God, since all sin is against God; in turn he being the only one who can forgive it. Since the sin was against God, why would the sinner need explain whom he lied to? Therefore confessing is the mention to God "I lied," rather than "I lied to," and so on. At least as I understand it sweatdrop .
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:17 pm
Lethkhar Let's say I, for whatever reason, decided to get baptized. If I then confessed, what would happen if I couldn't remember all of my sins and confess to them? Because I honestly can't remember how many times I've sinned. A lot. And what about people who can't talk? You don't have to confessed your sins to anybody, only God. He is the one who will forgive you, not humans. And you don't have to say it with the mouth, if you don't want, you can do it with your mind.
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:20 pm
Lethkhar Cometh The Inquisitor Well, you wouldn't be saved in the first place, because simple actions aren't enough. God can read minds, remember. Which, of course, would be part of the actual answer. God can read minds, so mute people are fine if they just think about it. As well, confession is not necessary for absolution, so you wouldn't need to worry about that. As well, once you are saved, you gain a sort of limited permanent grace. That is to say that, all those sins that you don't know you've comitted get forgiven along with those other sins that you do know you've done. So why even bother confessing? Dude, a little example: You sinned against you mom, your mom knows you did something bad, but she would like to hear you say that you are sorry and that you want to be forgiven. Is that too much to ask?
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:11 pm
Heaven Edge Lethkhar Cometh The Inquisitor Well, you wouldn't be saved in the first place, because simple actions aren't enough. God can read minds, remember. Which, of course, would be part of the actual answer. God can read minds, so mute people are fine if they just think about it. As well, confession is not necessary for absolution, so you wouldn't need to worry about that. As well, once you are saved, you gain a sort of limited permanent grace. That is to say that, all those sins that you don't know you've comitted get forgiven along with those other sins that you do know you've done. So why even bother confessing? Dude, a little example: You sinned against you mom, your mom knows you did something bad, but she would like to hear you say that you are sorry and that you want to be forgiven. Is that too much to ask? If she already knows you're sorry and want to be forgiven, then yeah. It's pretty pointless.
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:42 pm
the act of confessing is to release your sins. Granted in your case whenyou cannot remember them all (which by the way how is that even possibe) you just tell God that you wish for him to forgive you! and attempt to mention the sins that you do remember! either way vebally telling God what your sins are makes you feel better anyway!
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