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 Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:51 am
The only thing with stem cell research, is that they can try to justify it has helping others, though it has no proof of any kind of potential. My grandpa died of alzeimers, but he wouldnt have wanted embryo's destroyed for some cure. Any ways, there is another option. Sam Brownback has foun that you can get adult stem cells from cord blood, and the cells act more like adult cells, unlike the embryo cells that multiply without stop, hurting the patient. The only problem is, it takes a little bit of effort. This is murder, killing innocent biengs for some hope that a cure will be found. It's not worth it!
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 2:48 pm
I've heard about that, that adult stem cells can be used too. Based on that at least, I'm not going to support embryonic stem cell research.
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:06 pm
I heard of a list IRL that listed the advantages (aka cures that have been found and are being worked on) of adult stem cells and embryonic stem cells.
Apparently Adult Stem Cells have a litte over 35 possible cures and treatments...embryonic has none or speculation.
I just don't get it. Reeves...is this your legacy?
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:43 pm
Stem cells can also be found in the umbilical cord (which, of course, serves the child no purpose after he/she is born).
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:14 pm
Stem cells are better from adults because to cure you, they take them from you and there's less chance of rejection. My mom's partially paralyzed, I promised her when I was tiny I'd be a doctor when I grew up and make her walk again, lol. Course I can't, but embryotic stem cells aren't even as practicle as adult stem cells. Also, the elsticaty of the cells that make them so flexible to grow into other cells also makes the risk for cancer MUCH higher; it's not as high in adult stem cell research, so they say. Adult stem cells have more life-saving potential than embryotic stem cells do, but as has happened in the past many times, politics mixes with science and keeps the truth down as much as possible because it'd hurt the cause of a particular group. In this case, that cause is Abortion clinics.
Yes, and semi-related, next time someone tells you Bush is in the way of curing people with the whole stem cell thing...he was the first president to grant financing for stem cell research, but placed a restriction that they would only fund existing lines. Also I think he's more into the adult stem cell thing. THis was in August 2001 he granted it. Then came 9/11 and a war. I find it silly that people are complaining that we shouldn't spend money on our military because we're in debt and hey, outdated equipment can't hurt our guys! But oh no, money isn't going to stem cell research, and it should be, since grown men and women fighting for our safety shouldn't be out there in the first place and should have refused going when they were called; it's their fault they're using second-rate equipment (not clinton's, his cutting back on military did nothing to diminish the sort of protection these men and women have rolleyes ) because that money should instead go towards funding experiments that necessitate killing babies. So.....why are these people mad when I title them pro-death?
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:00 pm
cascadia Stem cells can also be found in the umbilical cord (which, of course, serves the child no purpose after he/she is born). Yea, I saw a documentary on that, about some girl who needed some bone marrow stuff. Why don't they just iuse stem cells from the umbilical cord?? How would you attain stem callls from adults?
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 9:24 am
Elternalmina cascadia Stem cells can also be found in the umbilical cord (which, of course, serves the child no purpose after he/she is born). Yea, I saw a documentary on that, about some girl who needed some bone marrow stuff. Why don't they just iuse stem cells from the umbilical cord?? How would you attain stem callls from adults?
Babies are born every second .. and very few mothers want to keep the umbilical cord. I don't even see why it is an issue: start a program for the collection of umbilical cords from mothers who don't want them. I don't see how there would be any shortage of stem cells for research and treatments, and I don't think it would present any moral dilemma.
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:18 am
marrow. there are stem cells in bone marrow, but it's harder to find. It can be done, at a little extra cost, but it seems like it'll work better. Fetal stem cells are a potential, but adult stem cells show more potential. and umbilical chord stem cells are better than fetal stem cells, I don't remember why. that program thing is a good idea. sometimes it makes me wish I was out there working instead of home, sick, with no future particular in mind past psychology....but I fully intend to campaign against abortion from a psychological standpoint, so first I need to get world-famous, and I can do that. Well, it'd take a whole lot of work, and sleeping with just the right people....jk. Could always marry rich, that's a sure ticket to fame. Mm, but then it'd be like getting into college because of AA, I want to do it myself and I don't need any help from anyone, thankyou very much, well sure, a scholarship or two MIGHT help........
Yes, I"m sickeningly ambitious.
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:32 am
lymelady marrow. there are stem cells in bone marrow, but it's harder to find. It can be done, at a little extra cost, but it seems like it'll work better. Fetal stem cells are a potential, but adult stem cells show more potential. and umbilical chord stem cells are better than fetal stem cells, I don't remember why. that program thing is a good idea. sometimes it makes me wish I was out there working instead of home, sick, with no future particular in mind past psychology....but I fully intend to campaign against abortion from a psychological standpoint, so first I need to get world-famous, and I can do that. Well, it'd take a whole lot of work, and sleeping with just the right people....jk. Could always marry rich, that's a sure ticket to fame. Mm, but then it'd be like getting into college because of AA, I want to do it myself and I don't need any help from anyone, thankyou very much, well sure, a scholarship or two MIGHT help........ Yes, I"m sickeningly ambitious. Its all about the power hon. J/k. Yes I am ambitious too. I'm going to campaign to have more Puppy Parlours open!!Thats my ultimate quest in the world.Mwahaha. Everyone else= eek eek eek (I love pampering my dog wink )
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:34 am
cascadia Elternalmina cascadia Stem cells can also be found in the umbilical cord (which, of course, serves the child no purpose after he/she is born). Yea, I saw a documentary on that, about some girl who needed some bone marrow stuff. Why don't they just iuse stem cells from the umbilical cord?? How would you attain stem callls from adults?
Babies are born every second .. and very few mothers want to keep the umbilical cord. I don't even see why it is an issue: start a program for the collection of umbilical cords from mothers who don't want them. I don't see how there would be any shortage of stem cells for research and treatments, and I don't think it would present any moral dilemma. Yea, I see your point. I wonder why they don't do that. Or perhaps the umbilical cord deteriorates very quickly or something. I don't know. But that is a good point.
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:41 am
Elternalmina cascadia Elternalmina cascadia Stem cells can also be found in the umbilical cord (which, of course, serves the child no purpose after he/she is born). Yea, I saw a documentary on that, about some girl who needed some bone marrow stuff. Why don't they just iuse stem cells from the umbilical cord?? How would you attain stem callls from adults?
Babies are born every second .. and very few mothers want to keep the umbilical cord. I don't even see why it is an issue: start a program for the collection of umbilical cords from mothers who don't want them. I don't see how there would be any shortage of stem cells for research and treatments, and I don't think it would present any moral dilemma. Yea, I see your point. I wonder why they don't do that. Or perhaps the umbilical cord deteriorates very quickly or something. I don't know. But that is a good point. Well I know that's not the problem because I know somebody who still has their umbilical cord. They keep it with some other memerobilia of youth.
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 8:35 am
Elternalmina cascadia Elternalmina cascadia Stem cells can also be found in the umbilical cord (which, of course, serves the child no purpose after he/she is born). Yea, I saw a documentary on that, about some girl who needed some bone marrow stuff. Why don't they just iuse stem cells from the umbilical cord?? How would you attain stem callls from adults?
Babies are born every second .. and very few mothers want to keep the umbilical cord. I don't even see why it is an issue: start a program for the collection of umbilical cords from mothers who don't want them. I don't see how there would be any shortage of stem cells for research and treatments, and I don't think it would present any moral dilemma. Yea, I see your point. I wonder why they don't do that. Or perhaps the umbilical cord deteriorates very quickly or something. I don't know. But that is a good point. the problem is, if abortion necessitates stem cell research, that's just one more reason to keep it legal in all states, regardless of how the states feel. I mean, my big thing is overturning RvW, making it back to states rights again.
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:44 am
Theallpowerfull Elternalmina cascadia Elternalmina cascadia Stem cells can also be found in the umbilical cord (which, of course, serves the child no purpose after he/she is born). Yea, I saw a documentary on that, about some girl who needed some bone marrow stuff. Why don't they just iuse stem cells from the umbilical cord?? How would you attain stem callls from adults?
Babies are born every second .. and very few mothers want to keep the umbilical cord. I don't even see why it is an issue: start a program for the collection of umbilical cords from mothers who don't want them. I don't see how there would be any shortage of stem cells for research and treatments, and I don't think it would present any moral dilemma. Yea, I see your point. I wonder why they don't do that. Or perhaps the umbilical cord deteriorates very quickly or something. I don't know. But that is a good point. Well I know that's not the problem because I know somebody who still has their umbilical cord. They keep it with some other merobilia of youth. Only a small number do. But the majority just "chuck" it away.
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:52 pm
omgosh i never relized they went through that whole stem cell stuff!!
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:50 pm
Adult stem cells can be found in lots o' places.... fat tissue for one 3nodding
Yes... it's a pointless waste... the only reason it's being pushed so much is because people are mad that the gov. isn't funding more stuff w/ our tax money and it makes them look bad cause the gov wont support it more xp
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