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  This sentence is fair; Kopp should be treated like a terrorist.
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La Veuve Zin

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:24 am


Original story here.

The Buffalo News


Kopp can take plea to avoid solitary

Killer of Dr. Slepian discloses federal offer

By MICHAEL BEEBE
News Staff Reporter
12/7/2006

Federal prosecutors have told James C. Kopp he will spend the rest of his life in solitary confinement, locked up 23 hours a day in the nation's most-secure prison, if he insists on a trial and is convicted on federal charges stemming from the October 1998 killing of Dr. Barnett A. Slepian.

But if he pleads guilty instead, the prosecutors told Kopp in a recent meeting, they would see that he is sentenced to a medium-security federal prison.

Kopp, who is representing himself, disclosed the government's offer in a four-page affidavit he wrote from his cell in the Niagara County Jail and made available to The Buffalo News.

His court-appointed legal adviser, assistant federal public defender John F. Humann, confirmed Kopp's version of the offer.

"They can make a recommendation [about prisons] to the judge and the Bureau of Prisons," Humann said. "In my experience, 99 percent of the time they're followed."

Assistant U.S. Attorney Kathleen M. Mehltretter, who both Kopp and Humann said made the offer in a Nov. 8 meeting, said she would not comment on attorney discussions.

She said if Kopp is convicted, the U.S. attorney has the authority to make a sentence recommendation at the conclusion of the case.

Kopp already is destined to spend at least the next 25 years of his life in prison, after he was convicted in Erie County Court of Slepian's murder.

Now 52, Kopp would be in his 70s before he was even eligible for state parole and even then would be unlikely to be granted his freedom.

Kopp faces an additional life sentence in federal prison if convicted of charges that, by his killing Slepian, he violated a federal law guaranteeing access to abortion clinics. He is scheduled to stand trial Jan. 3 before U.S. District Judge Richard J. Arcara.

Kopp said that he and Humann, accompanied by three U.S. marshals, were summoned to the November meeting by Mehltretter and a fellow prosecutor, Martin J. Littlefield.

Kopp said in the affidavit that Littlefield laid out the evidence against Kopp and the witnesses the prosecution intends to call.

Included in the evidence are Kopp's statements, given to The News in an interview and later introduced at his County Court trial. Kopp said he shot Slepian with a high-powered sniper's rifle while hiding in the woods behind Slepian's home.

Kopp told The News he only meant to wound Slepian so he could no longer perform abortions.

Humann asked the two prosecutors what Kopp could expect if he disposed of the case with a plea. Mehltretter said he would go immediately to a medium-security prison, both Kopp and Humann said.

And if the case went to trial? Humann asked her.

"Florence, Colo., . . . It's permanent," Mehltretter replied, according to Kopp's affidavit.

Florence ADMAX, as it is known, is the federal prison system's most secure prison, built in 1994 to house the nation's most dangerous prisoners.

It is home to a rogues' gallery of prison murderers, terrorists and serial bombers.

Unabomber Theodore J. Kaczynski is a Florence prisoner, as is Eric R. Rudolph, the Atlanta Olympics bomber who also bombed some abortion clinics.

Richard Reid, the "shoe bomber," is there as is 911 plotter Zacharias Moussaoui and Oma Abdel-Rachman, the blind sheik involved in the earlier World Trade Center bombing.

Timothy J. McVeigh was housed in Florence before his execution for the Oklahoma City federal building bombing, and his co-conspirator, Terry L. Nichols, is still there.


I am by no means excusing his actions as a murderer, but this is ridiculous.
He killed one person. Unless I'm mistaken, he had no intention of killing anyone else. Unlike McVeigh, Moussaoui and Slepian.

Particularly ridiculous, I think, is the life sentence (unless I'm reading this wrong?) for violating a law guaranteeing access to abortion clinics.

Wha? People aren't guaranteed access to homeless shelters, food banks or necessary medical treatment, but a federal law guarantees access to have an abortion? With priorities like this, it's no wonder the U.S. is so ******** up.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:06 am


Its completly ridiculess. A guy who knowingly stabs a store clerk to death get sit easier then this. This...it sounds like nothign more then a politicle stunt.

Tiger of the Fire


A Menina Pianista

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:31 pm


A maximum security prison, with the terrorists and bombers? 23 hours a day? For killing ONE man, who was killing many MORE humans?

Why can't he just go to a regular prison, like you both said? With the polls, I'm stuck in between the lenient option and the same-as-other-murderers option. sweatdrop I feel like his sentence should be lighter... but at the same time, I feel like he still killed someone, and should get the same treatment as other people... the thought of a guy hiding in the woods, shooting a man with a sniper rifle is pretty freaky...
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:43 pm


One person or more, he still killed someone and who's to say that he won't do it again? Alot of of murders get the death sentence.

The only way I would find it ridiculous is if he did it out of self-defense which he didn't.

If he doesn't like then he should of thought twice before doing what he did.

rweghrheh


Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:21 pm


Its not that Sach. Its that it sound sliek an unfair trial that appears biased based on who he is and what he claims to stand for. The problem here is that others who have done worse have gotten off with less.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:06 pm


Nobody seems to care about the rights of this man because he murdered somebody. What he did was horrible, despite his intentions, but that does not give anybody the right to use the nation's fear of extremists to make an example of him. This man is being treated unfairly and unfortunately there's nothing we can do about it. I think we would have been safer with Stalin as a world power. At least his propaganda was nice and obvious to the masses.
Oh well, this man will now suffer a fate worse than death for his ideals, but it's all in vain because people are being taught to not only fear him but the actions that he's taken. Don't disagree. The law has spoken.

Theallpowerfull


andyz cool

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:49 am


to be honest, i don't care

the man killed someone. If i had my way, every murderer would be in solitary their entire life. I'm not gonna say he deserved any less because of who he killed

i understand it's a little biased, but once again, i don't really care. jackass killed someone, jackass goes to jail for life. This pleases me.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:23 pm


Killing someone is killing someone, just like MiNdCaNdY said. Just because he was an abortionist doesn't mean he should get a different punishment but the murderer didn't kill the doctor to stop him. He killed him to send a message. That's the textbook definition of terrorism, violent and destructive acts meant to terrify a group of people into conforming to your personal ideas. I don't think that abortion for its own sake is right but, well.
My friend, who will remain anonymous, told me in a disucssion about her miscarriage about Planned Parenthood. She got pregnant around the time that she had a dentist appointment with anaesthetic that had strong warnings for pregnant women. She didn't even know she was pregnant and it destroyed her baby. At seven weeks it died and she started to feel strong pains. When she went to Planned Parenthood, they told her she was in the early stages of a miscarriage that could potentially kill her.
Now, abortionists or not, they would NOT convince a women to have an abortion if she did not need it. She was potentially going to die if the miscarriage went through...so she opted to abort. There's not a day that goes by where she does not wish she could have had her baby alive. It was already dead when the abortion was induced.
These doctors may destroy healthy pregnancies but they also do things like this. In a way I'm glad the option was there because my best friend could have died had they not diagnosed it. Who know if this doctor did the same thing. Regardless of his chosen specialization people don't become doctors to kill and torture, they do it to help. She was helped. The doctor who died probably helped people, too.
I'm not advocating abortion. In a perfect world, pregnancy specialists wouldn't have to be abortionists to take care of pregnancies like hers. In a perfect world she would have had medical coverage and been able to have had a more dignified end to her pregnancy. This is not a perfect world, and murdering doctors won't make it so.

Dread Dionaea


divineseraph

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:38 pm


i love our system of justice... millions go by, unnoticed, ******** GLORIFIED, and when one doing it goes, it is ******** TERRORISM?

this is too much. God i love our retarded species
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:15 pm


I'd like to see him punished. It's not just Slepian they suspect him of killing; they suspect him of shooting a few more abortionists, too. I don't care if you're a serial killer or a baby on the innocence scale, human life means something and ought to be protected by law. That includes abortionists. Right now, abortion is legal which is unfortunate, but killing humans outside the womb isn't in most cases. This guy has no excuse to hide behind like abortionists do. They can continue doing what they think is right and be protected in what they do by the law and I can't say, ******** throw their asses in prison. But I can about this guy.

His punishment isn't just about one abortionist. He's shot other people. Shooting one doctor doesn't get you on the 10 Most Wanted list. I don't believe that it's fair to strip ANY person of their human rights no matter what they do, but in this case, I think it's a matter of protection.

lymelady
Vice Captain


nuwa

PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:17 pm


A crime is a crime. Who are we to judge which crime is worse than another? For that matter, who are we to judge what there punishment should be? They will get there in the after life I believe.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:05 pm


nuwa
A crime is a crime. Who are we to judge which crime is worse than another? For that matter, who are we to judge what there punishment should be? They will get there in the after life I believe.


I say kill all murderers that arnt cops military, government agents... whatever... let god sort em out for he will know his own

TheDiseasedOne


lymelady
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:13 pm


I don't believe in killing murderers that can be stopped from killing again in some other way.

The only purpose of killing a murderer is to keep them from killing again. Well, and to deter other people from doing that stuff. It can't reform a person or anything. If you believe in killing them all and letting God sort them out, then God's going to sort you out, because He didn't send you out as the angel of death. You're just a human being, and it isn't up to humans to decide, "Hey, that person doesn't deserve life." If you believe in deciding who lives and who dies, then there's no point in being pro-life...it's just being anti-abortion.
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