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 Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:19 pm
ok heres what i mean you know that most things in martial arts are combat training and self disapline right wel think of this. before training the sensei tells the student to get on his or her knees, close they're eyes and zen. zen means meditate. now after thats done some feel a ruch of energy and are able to do much better.
another thing is that martial artists like myself are not what you call strong but yet we are able to toss people that are larger and heavier then our selves is this a result of constent meditation or pure magick... or is it something else?
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:22 am
dunno, but that's a very interesting observation. Magick is grounded in many different areas, so I'm sure it must have carried over. Or perhaps this meathod was developed by someone who was very aware of the flow of energy, but perhaps not the craft. What the connection could be, I doubt anyone could tell you, but you might be on to something there ^_^
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:58 am
well as for the meditation part that allows you to get into the zone and concentrate, the flips simply use ballance and fulcrums in the body but i have seen things like the two inch punch and ballancing on one finger that are clearly magick.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:46 pm
wow then i have been praticing magick for a long time... i have been taking isshin ryu for about nine years now. i have noticed latley when we do some of the katas at full power we all feed off of eachothers energy and such. razz
now i am going to have more fun at karate.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:09 pm
it's science a smaller person cam move a larger person by moving there center of gravity, simple really.
i that karate and i find that it's more magickal to learn to stay calm and to think logicly in a fight.
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:51 am
As far as I know meditation doesn't have an energy raising role in Martial Arts, and I strongly doubt the guy who came up with it had anything to do with the so called Craft, simply because it's an Asian concept that is older than Mahabharata.
Meditation is meant to still the mind, so it doesn't wander off, that it doesn't try to predict what his oponent is about to do, but rather notice the way his body moves and react to that. Speeded up, of course, but that's the bottom line - As far as I know.
And the tossing, as far as I'm concerned, really is just finding the point of gravity.
I never trained an Asian martial art, so I can't really say. I only trained European medieval swordfighting (1 1/2 handed - b*****d's sword) and we never did any meditation prior to it.
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:26 pm
i mostly do japonease kendo and jui-juit-su.
jui-juit-su really sikes you up a knotch 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:04 pm
i think that it does have some aspects of both.
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:02 pm
sweatdrop i think i would hurt my self if i tried
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:03 pm
naw martial arts just takes practice relaxation and self trust aswell as trust in ur partner
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:50 pm
I used to take it(Tae Kwan Do) and am hoping to join back. The energy you feel is a natural phenomena called adrenilin(it literally took me lite 30 minutes to think of that word). This substance can do wondreous things. I took Martial Arts--it is the opposite of "magic." Also the skills you learn help you do this stuff, like properly throwing someone.
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:21 am
Adrenalin isn't a phenomena. It's a hormone secreted by the adrenal gland. It's what enables you to walk slowly one moment and run the next.
Secretion of it is usually connected to the so called "adrenaline sports" such as bungeejumping etc.
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:26 am
while all this is true there is definitely a spiritual side to it.
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:29 pm
spiritual yes just asked the budist, tibetins, okinawens and other monks and ppl who follow a martial arts lifestyle in which i for one do live this life style.
i meditate in the morning train the after noon gaze at the wonders of nature during after noon meditation, train agaist the wind around supper and meditate again before bed... wow tats alot of meditating. but thats only the way i live this life many others do things diffferantly.
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