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Kitsune_Moon230

PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:47 pm


I would like to know if anyone had any training methods they used to better themselves in Martial Arts. I need some training tips that I could practice at home without any objects ((punching bags, etc.)) Also....I'm learning how to use Nunchakus, so infomation on that would be useful as well.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:28 pm


Well shadow technique practice works for me (but it s simply for memory and does not work to improve how u do it)

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Roninofthewest

PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:22 am


chairs work really well as a workout tool... what we do in class is take them out into the dojo and do axe kicks over the top of them, then step up on them and knee, then alternate left and right. crunches with your feet laying in the seat. push ups with your feet elivated on the chair seet. its a pretty decent workout.
an other thing he suggested was to tense up your arms and bring them in slowly,and then out. if you do it right they should be shaking the hole time. im not sure how well it works but hope that helps.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:44 pm


Cool...I'll try it out!

Kitsune_Moon230


Shin2

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:30 pm


Slow motion kicks, leg lifts and some splits or something.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:49 pm


Roninofthewest
an other thing he suggested was to tense up your arms and bring them in slowly,and then out. if you do it right they should be shaking the hole time. im not sure how well it works but hope that helps.

Dynamic tension is great. It increases intensity as you increase strength, Because your muscles are resisting each other.

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dee zaku ii

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:49 am


mark out your thigh, stomach and head hieght on the door. lift leg up slowly in a kicking motion to each mark, then gradually vary which marks you hit and throw double kicks. each time go slower than before.

usual push ups and situps and so on,
stretches,

i do push ups with my feet on sofa or bed(wooden part) with hands close together.

thats some of the stuff i used to do, training
training
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:23 pm


stretching, pushups, and situps biggrin

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Krad Elyk

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:02 pm


practice ur katas often they have more 2 do with fighting than u think. RUN!!!!!! martial arts is one of the most demanding sports when it comes to endurance so start running and build that endurance! oh, and start off small and drink only water no cokes and stuff like that
PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:52 am


Krad Elyk
practice ur katas often they have more 2 do with fighting than u think. RUN!!!!!! martial arts is one of the most demanding sports when it comes to endurance so start running and build that endurance! oh, and start off small and drink only water no cokes and stuff like that


yes sugar is the devil and should be avoided at all costs ...damn my sweet tooth. tomato juice is great for you too if you need somthing other than water.

Roninofthewest


TaeKyon

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:15 pm


wow...a lot of generic information being dispensed here.

You didn't really explain what martial art you do or what sort of goals you're training for (sparring oriented, emphasis on kata, general conditioning?). So if you feel like explaining what you're training for then maybe you'll get more specific training tips other than no brainers like "go running."

As for nunchucks, you can't effectively learn nunchakus (or much in terms of martial arts realistically; so called self taught martial artists are full of themselves) on your own really, you can practice what's been taught to you and improve that, but just throwing the chucks around and experimenting thinking you're actually learning will mostly result in you just pissing around and not actually learning anything traditional or effective.

On a related note: December is nunchucks suck month at Bullshido.com. They're a hateful bunch of assholes but some of their s**t is pretty funny.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:01 pm


TaeKyon
wow...a lot of generic information being dispensed here.

You didn't really explain what martial art you do or what sort of goals you're training for (sparring oriented, emphasis on kata, general conditioning?). So if you feel like explaining what you're training for then maybe you'll get more specific training tips other than no brainers like "go running."

As for nunchucks, you can't effectively learn nunchakus (or much in terms of martial arts realistically; so called self taught martial artists are full of themselves) on your own really, you can practice what's been taught to you and improve that, but just throwing the chucks around and experimenting thinking you're actually learning will mostly result in you just pissing around and not actually learning anything traditional or effective.

On a related note: December is nunchucks suck month at Bullshido.com. They're a hateful bunch of assholes but some of their s**t is pretty funny.


Yes I didn't really specify what exactly I take, but for training wise I mean in general......anyhting that will improve myself. If it's important to say what I'm into I take Korean Taekwondo. It's pretty traditional, nothing new and fancy, but the real training that occured long ago.

I really get enough exercise from basketball, so I guess you could say I'm trying to improve in sparring, but really I want to be consistant in everything.

Kitsune_Moon230


TaeKyon

PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:40 pm


Kitsune_Moon230

Yes I didn't really specify what exactly I take, but for training wise I mean in general......anyhting that will improve myself. If it's important to say what I'm into I take Korean Taekwondo. It's pretty traditional, nothing new and fancy, but the real training that occured long ago.

I really get enough exercise from basketball, so I guess you could say I'm trying to improve in sparring, but really I want to be consistant in everything.


ITF/ATA/WTF TKD? Kinda important in terms of sparring styles. And not to knock you but unless you're learning either Taekkyon or some obscure martial art IN Korea itself, you're likely not learning "real training that occured long ago" considering that TKD is realistically 50 to 60 years old.

Anyway, in general, some comments.

Running is a great exercise but to make the most of it you want to add sprints into your running regimine. TKD and many combat sports are mostly anaerobic so you don't need to be able to run a marathon but instead need endurance for lots of short bursts of activity. The most scientifically efficient manner of improving your max v02 is called HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training). The idea being that you get maximum gains when pushing yourself to your limit but sustaining high intensity training is difficult so by breaking it up into intervals you can sustain high intensity training. In laymen's, add sprints into your running, such as jog/walk two minutes, sprint one, repeat.

Jump Roping/Skipping Rope is a favorite of mine and a secret of boxers everywhere. It's pretty inexpensive to buy a jump rope (a decent leather rope or whatever will work, nothing fancy required). They're one of the best ways to warm up/cool down after a work out as they not only work the lower body but also the upper body as well. It's also a great lower impact alternative to running (tho I do both but good to know if you have bad knees). Best of all, it's a great way to improve your footwork. Work your way up to skipping for 10 minutes, then try and go for 20 (surprisingly not easy).

In terms of stretching and flexibility, some things to keep in mind. Never stretch cold, always warm up a bit w/ some light exercise that gets blood circulating in the body (like jumproping for instance). When stretching you generally want to start slow w/ your conventional static stretching. Never bounce while stretching. Then you'll want to do some dynamic stretching. You probably already do this in TKD as a "stretch kick" or "swinging kick" or what not. Basically, w/ control, swing your leg to maximum height, think of an axe kick w/out chambering the leg. I usually do a set of ten per leg, and also do side dynamic stretches (like sidekicks) and back dynamic stretches (like back kicks); it helps to have a hand on a wall or chair or something for support during these. After a work out, you'll want to stretch (in general, if you weight train or do anything that fatigues the muscles, stretch afterwards to maintain your flexibility and to help improve your flexibility), a good stretch to do if you have a partner or friend is PNF stretches (proprieceptive neuromuscular faciliatation), a fancy way of saying parnter stretching. Basically, you do your conventional static stretches except when you've come to your limit of flexibility, flex the muscles you're stretching for 30 seconds, then w/ the help of your friend push further and try to stretch deeper. This is a great way to improve your flexibility. When you stretch, your muscles seem to get tighter and resist you, this action is actually a reflex of the muscles to prevent you from tearing the muscles past their limit, fatiguing the muscles prior to stretching and flexing the muscles while stretching to fatigue the muscle hinders the muscles ability to resist you and allows your partner to help you achieve a deeper stretch.

In terms of sparring, there's not much you can do alone but shadowbox and work on your footwork. Step around and try to challenge yourself by ocassionally throwing roundhouse counters or launching into a kick combination immediately after a step. If you have a friend or training partner, you can strap the hogu on them and have them step w/ you, allow them to make the first step and try to work on your reactive footwork and spacing. You can also adapt the previous shadowboxing drill into this one by having your friend kiah randomly during a step and countering as a good reaction drill.

As for the strength and speed of your kicks, you'll want to promote the fast twitch (type II) muscles for explosive power. You'll want to do plyometric exercises and most likely, you're probably already doing your share of these for basketball (the act of exploding up into a high jump for a rebound or a layup uses the same muscles and increasing your explosive power might increase your vertical). An example of a plyometric exercise is a squat jump, Muay Thai sometimes call them Thai Hops, basically you squat and jump, squat and jump, repeat. A quick google search brought up this website that has some nifty animations of more plyometric exercises to try.

Plyometric Exercises Animated

Any more specific questions, clarifications, just ask.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:04 am


TaeKyon
Kitsune_Moon230

Yes I didn't really specify what exactly I take, but for training wise I mean in general......anyhting that will improve myself. If it's important to say what I'm into I take Korean Taekwondo. It's pretty traditional, nothing new and fancy, but the real training that occured long ago.

I really get enough exercise from basketball, so I guess you could say I'm trying to improve in sparring, but really I want to be consistant in everything.


ITF/ATA/WTF TKD? Kinda important in terms of sparring styles. And not to knock you but unless you're learning either Taekkyon or some obscure martial art IN Korea itself, you're likely not learning "real training that occured long ago" considering that TKD is realistically 50 to 60 years old.

Anyway, in general, some comments.

Running is a great exercise but to make the most of it you want to add sprints into your running regimine. TKD and many combat sports are mostly anaerobic so you don't need to be able to run a marathon but instead need endurance for lots of short bursts of activity. The most scientifically efficient manner of improving your max v02 is called HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training). The idea being that you get maximum gains when pushing yourself to your limit but sustaining high intensity training is difficult so by breaking it up into intervals you can sustain high intensity training. In laymen's, add sprints into your running, such as jog/walk two minutes, sprint one, repeat.

Jump Roping/Skipping Rope is a favorite of mine and a secret of boxers everywhere. It's pretty inexpensive to buy a jump rope (a decent leather rope or whatever will work, nothing fancy required). They're one of the best ways to warm up/cool down after a work out as they not only work the lower body but also the upper body as well. It's also a great lower impact alternative to running (tho I do both but good to know if you have bad knees). Best of all, it's a great way to improve your footwork. Work your way up to skipping for 10 minutes, then try and go for 20 (surprisingly not easy).

In terms of stretching and flexibility, some things to keep in mind. Never stretch cold, always warm up a bit w/ some light exercise that gets blood circulating in the body (like jumproping for instance). When stretching you generally want to start slow w/ your conventional static stretching. Never bounce while stretching. Then you'll want to do some dynamic stretching. You probably already do this in TKD as a "stretch kick" or "swinging kick" or what not. Basically, w/ control, swing your leg to maximum height, think of an axe kick w/out chambering the leg. I usually do a set of ten per leg, and also do side dynamic stretches (like sidekicks) and back dynamic stretches (like back kicks); it helps to have a hand on a wall or chair or something for support during these. After a work out, you'll want to stretch (in general, if you weight train or do anything that fatigues the muscles, stretch afterwards to maintain your flexibility and to help improve your flexibility), a good stretch to do if you have a partner or friend is PNF stretches (proprieceptive neuromuscular faciliatation), a fancy way of saying parnter stretching. Basically, you do your conventional static stretches except when you've come to your limit of flexibility, flex the muscles you're stretching for 30 seconds, then w/ the help of your friend push further and try to stretch deeper. This is a great way to improve your flexibility. When you stretch, your muscles seem to get tighter and resist you, this action is actually a reflex of the muscles to prevent you from tearing the muscles past their limit, fatiguing the muscles prior to stretching and flexing the muscles while stretching to fatigue the muscle hinders the muscles ability to resist you and allows your partner to help you achieve a deeper stretch.

In terms of sparring, there's not much you can do alone but shadowbox and work on your footwork. Step around and try to challenge yourself by ocassionally throwing roundhouse counters or launching into a kick combination immediately after a step. If you have a friend or training partner, you can strap the hogu on them and have them step w/ you, allow them to make the first step and try to work on your reactive footwork and spacing. You can also adapt the previous shadowboxing drill into this one by having your friend kiah randomly during a step and countering as a good reaction drill.

As for the strength and speed of your kicks, you'll want to promote the fast twitch (type II) muscles for explosive power. You'll want to do plyometric exercises and most likely, you're probably already doing your share of these for basketball (the act of exploding up into a high jump for a rebound or a layup uses the same muscles and increasing your explosive power might increase your vertical). An example of a plyometric exercise is a squat jump, Muay Thai sometimes call them Thai Hops, basically you squat and jump, squat and jump, repeat. A quick google search brought up this website that has some nifty animations of more plyometric exercises to try.

Plyometric Exercises Animated

Any more specific questions, clarifications, just ask.


I know this is random, but thanks for the info you posted, TaeKyon - very useful!

tasogarenootome


Bruce Lee52

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:20 pm


Shin2
Slow motion kicks, leg lifts and some splits or something.


I agree, I do about 20 kicks in a row without putting my foot down. Try to work on multiple kicks, but as for nunchucks try moving slow then speed up. It matters what you are doing.
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