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Klip Fourwinds

PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:13 pm


Have any of you out there had issues with techies hating actors or actors hating techies? I recentally worked a show where one of the actors had no respect for any of the techies, he ignored any warnings we gave and even gave us hell after the director talked to him. It wasn't like we were being bossy, we were trying to keep him from going anywhere where he could get hurt, IE the catwalks. Have any of you stuggled with this from either end? is so how do you handle it?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:11 am


I've never experienced something like that, especially since at my school the actors are forced to bring out their techie side - each person in the cast has to do a minimum of 10 hours of set construction or they're not allowed to perform. Mwuah! One of my (semi)techi friends did use the expression 'Actors are lazy' relentlessly a couple of years ago, but it was all in good fun.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:04 pm


There's a tiny bit of descrimination, I have to say. Techies always feel under appreciated and actors just don't get how much work it is because the stage always just kind of appears in a few days.

To kind of bridge the gap between techies and actors at my school, some of the techs/actors wrote a song spawned from an argument between the student tech director (haha STD) and the lead in the current play. It's called "This Set Was Made for You and Me" to the tune of the John Denver song you all know. I totally forget the words, but it was great and everytime a techie or an actor made a derrogatory comment towards the other, we'd just start singing the song. Everybody would join in and it was happy fun time. Yay for being a peacenik.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:16 pm


Dude, I love that idea. If you find the lyrics, let me know! ^_^

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Shempy

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:16 pm


I usually hate techies. They think they're the most important people and that the production would stop if they weren't doing anything. Late in production, techies can be replaced, actors can't.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:21 pm


Being both (a requirement of our school) I've been on both ends. I personally haven't had any problems, but I've seen them.

Being both, I sort of consider myself a moderator between the two. Thanks mostly to my high school director, I know how each little part is important to the overall success of the show. If I see a problem between a techie and an actor, I do my best to talk with them to work it out.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:54 pm


Shempy
I usually hate techies. They think they're the most important people and that the production would stop if they weren't doing anything. Late in production, techies can be replaced, actors can't.

Actors can be replaced. stare That's why God created understudies.

but anyways, sorry, I don't wanna start anything.


sweatdrop there's always going to be discrimination between actors and techies.

At my school's productions, there are some rivalries between actors and techies. Actors always have their noses in the air and techies always think they know what they're doing.

I've had my share of both worlds. In my very first production (which was only a few months ago) of Beauty and the Beast, I was a techie. One of my guy friends (whom I met through stage crew for that production) was a techie too, BUT he was an actor in the musical as well. He worked build crew, building and assembling the sets and even designed and built the magic Chip Tea Cart. He managed to juggle both jobs. THe only condition was that he couldn't be on run crew, but that wasn't a big deal.

He called himself a tector. razz hehe. Although he tells me he prefers to be a techie and I tell him I wanted to act (I auditioned for BATB but didn't get in).

Around the time hell week and the show started, I developed a huge crush on him. Could it work out? A techie and an actor?

To make a long story short, on closing night after the Belle scene, I told him how I felt about him... then a week after, he asked me to be his girlfriend. blaugh We're still happily together.

Now, this summer, I'm acting/singing/dancing in a small theatre's production of Oklahoma! (my first show ever blaugh ) and my boyfriend is the Sound Guy. So it's like we switched places. mrgreen I still love him very much. It's the best of 2 worlds.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:00 pm


Shempy
I usually hate techies. They think they're the most important people and that the production would stop if they weren't doing anything. Late in production, techies can be replaced, actors can't.


just as a side note, ment in no harm, there are some instances where the techies can't be replaced. In a show I worked recentally the tech crew had to be there from start to finish and it would have been impossible to replace them. In my opinion there are some actors as well that think they are the most important people the same way some techies think they are, but in general we all seem to come to the theatre for the same reason, the love of live shows. We all have our faults, and some people do get inflated egos but the truth is if this gap stays shows won't ever happen, every techie and every actor is as important as the next.

Klip Fourwinds


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:05 pm


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Around the time hell week and the show started, I developed a huge crush on him. Could it work out? A techie and an actor?

To make a long story short, on closing night after the Belle scene, I told him how I felt about him... then a week after, he asked me to be his girlfriend. blaugh We're still happily together.

Now, this summer, I'm acting/singing/dancing in a small theatre's production of Oklahoma! (my first show ever blaugh ) and my boyfriend is the Sound Guy. So it's like we switched places. mrgreen I still love him very much. It's the best of 2 worlds.

^_^ Aww. That's so cute!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:06 pm


We usually don't have that problem at our school because we're all just known as "Theatre kids" so we're all one big happy family! blaugh I sold my soul, as Barb would say! And I got a cookie, and one hell of a good performance for it! biggrin But in my last play, I hung out with my techie friends, and I only had 2 friends that were acting in the play. 3nodding

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:25 pm


I think that everyone one can agree to disagree, we had this discussion in an advanced acting class/stagecraft. and i am an actor, but i know alot about the theatre because i follow the tekkies around pushing random buttons and then getting yelled at... it's fun (>^^<) anyway, theatre wouldn't exist, we would have to go back to greek teatre*shudder* and even then tekkies were the only ones there to help. but in the end the tekkies are working to the actors advantage so for all thos snubby actors out there... just think of the tekkies as your very expensive megaphone...

"You can't be on stage and run the spot at the same time"
PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:53 pm


Um.. yeah my techies hate the actors at my school.. me being one of them. Of course, on stage, we have "The List". The List is the actors that respect techies/remember our names.. and they are the ones we like.

But I am a firm believer in the FACT that a show would not run with out either actors or techies...

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Auriel Nightbane

PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:47 am


Of course theatre needs both actors and techies, that's just a fact of life. My firm rule is to respect those who respect me. Thus, I tend to not like chorus kids (who tend to populate the cast of school musicals), who tend to treat techies like personal slaves, or dirt.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:07 pm


Auriel Nightbane
My firm rule is to respect those who respect me. Thus, I tend to not like chorus kids (who tend to populate the cast of school musicals), who tend to treat techies like personal slaves, or dirt.


Thats where I see a lot of conflict....when we do smaller plays it seems to be fine and when you have a mixed class of more hard core techies its fine, but when the large casts come it thats when it gets bad.

Klip Fourwinds


ChewySkywalker

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:17 pm


Recently my school did Seussical. The actors mostly had their noses stuck up very high in the air. They would always leave their trash on the floor of the auditorium for stage crew to pick up. Everyday us actors/actresses had to stay late and clean and most of the cast left. Mind you, this was a cast of 85 people, 20 people in pit and 30 people in stage crew. It was fairly annoying with 5/85 people in cast would stay to help clean.
I used to stay after and help Crew clean because I felt horrible making them have to stay and clean. They all began telling me that I belonged mroe on crew then cast.....except I wouldn't be able to perform in crew. But it was annoying that the cast thought crew was their slaves and I always want to kick them for it.
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