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Paul Zuviel

PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:59 pm


I was looking through the Sonic Heroes Manual and I find myself in disbelief over the official characters ages. To see if anyone else felt the same, I scanned the internet and found this.

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I'm sure that I, like many others who heard it before, find themselves in disbelief about the official ages listed for the Sonic cast. I for one cannot believe the good majority of them. Who would believe that a 6 year old could be a detective? Or that a 14 year old is the leader of a much older gang of thieves? And so, as a form of self-therapy, I have created the following list, detailing what I think the actual character ages should be, along with rationale for these decisions.

Sonic - 16/17
Sonic has been around for so long that he should be in his 20s, but because none of them ever age it's easier to just reflect his long time as a video game icon in an age boosted by at least two years. This way he maintains his youth and energy while still reflecting the experience he surely must have gained from years of fighting Robotnik.

Tails - 13
Perhaps one of the most unbelievable ages was Tails'. For starters, you will not find an 8 year old alive who has the patience or intelligence to become one of the greatest engineers in the world, let alone knowledgable enough to fly a plane or construct a walking robot battle suit. Bringing Tails up to age 13 gives him the chance to develop the maturity, intelligence and patience it would take to give him the kind of skill he is supposed to have, and still make him young enough to idolize Sonic as an elder brother figure.

Knuckles - 18/19
Knuckles was listed as being 16, which is far too young for one such as him who seems to have a level of maturity and solemnity far beyond that age. I know there are people out there who could be mature for their ages, but I would expect that at 16, given Knuckles' situation, he would be quite angry and rebelious towards the place he has been given. Making Knuckles a late teen means he has the age and maturity to be able to consciously accept his role and do it with the kind of dignified solitude we have come to expect from him.

Amy - 14/15
Aside from my initial argument about Amy that those CANNOT be twelve, Amy seems quite independent and unusually level-headed for someone who operates on her own as much as she does. It has been my experience that pre-teens lack the kind of independence and serious drive that Amy displays. If time and games have proven one thing it's that Amy considers her affections for Sonic to be more than a simple schoolgirl crush, and thus to give her legitimacy as a romantic interest for Sonic and as an independent hero character herself, I believe Amy's age should be raised to at least 14. She would be old enough to know for sure whether or not her infatuation with Sonic is legitimate or not, plus she would have a few years of puberty to grow into that chest.

Shadow - 17/18
Shadow has technically been alive for over 50 years, but considering he is Sonic's doppleganger, his age should be close to Sonic's in order to create the sense that they are indeed quite similar. Shadow seems to have more solemn maturity and a sense of self than many mid to early teens have, and so I propose listing his age as being around 17 to 18. That gives him a year on Sonic at least, and allows him to fit more easily into the roles he has been given in recent memory, such as a gun-toting alien fighter and new agent of G.U.N.

Rouge - 20
Rouge's age listed on Sonic Channel is currently 18. Okay, she's legal. I can deal with that. Makes her 'assets' a little more believable, but only just. Though at 18, logically, Rouge would just be out of high school. Not exactly in a good condition to be a world class jewel thief and secret agent for the President. Boosting Rouge's age to 20 gives her at least two years of leeway to grow into a role as a master thief, a secret agent, and the seductive femme fatale most fans percieve her as.

Cream - 8
Cream's age is one that bothers me the least. For one thing she actually acts her age, which is something few of these characters seem to do. But regardless of that, she IS still 6. And her mother apparently seems to let her go out and battle evil robots bent on world domination. Do YOU know any parents that would let their 6 year old daughters go out and battle a great evil with nothing but a Chao? Didn't think so. While Cream does act her age, I feel she should be given at least two years so that she becomes slightly more believable as a character in general.

Big - 18
Big the Cat has such an insignificant role that I could care less about how old he is. But considering he carries himself like a stoned slacker, he seems like he could believably be 18. Sitting around in the jungle talking to frogs? Yep, he's gotta be on something.

Vector - 21
Vector's age does not bother me too much either. He needs to be at least out of his teens in order to run a business, and so he does. And despite the company he keeps, Vector does act like the boss. But to be safe, I have added an extra year to him, to give him that further sense of maturity by making him one of the oldest characters.

Charmy - 12/13
Okay, Charmy CAN NOT be 6. How many 6 year old detectives do you know? None, that's how many. Why do you think nobody took Detective Conan seriously? Ah, but Conan had an excuse for being a detective. Charmy has neither the intellectual capacity, the attention span nor the maturity required for such work. Thus in the effort of making Charmy even remotely believable, I am raising his age to at least 12, placing him in his early teens. That would allow him the emotional immaturity he seems to have, and make it SLIGHTLY more likely for him to be working at a detective agency than he would if he were 6. Who hires 6 year olds, honestly?

Espio - 18
Espio is a ninja, and to become a ninja takes years and years of training. 16 years old is getting there, but I don't think long enough to make him a master ninja yet. I know Naruto would have us believe there are greater ninjas even younger than Espio, but that is hardly what I would call an accurate depiction of ninjas in any way. And so I add about two years to Espio's age, making him legally an adult, and therefore much more believable as a ninja.

Jet - 17/18
Now according to SEGA, Jet is 14. That makes him the youngest of the Babylon Rogues. And somehow he leads them. This does not compute. With Wave and Storm both apparently in their late teens, I cannot honestly see either of them willing to follow an obviously much younger and percieved as more immature person. Besides, who ever heard of a 14 year old master thief? Just because Jing could do it doesn't mean you can, Jet. I was willing to suspend my disbelief for him, but you haven't earned what Jing has. I have raised Jet's age to at least 17. This makes it easier to imagine him in a position of authority over other thieves, and easier to imagine him as a thief in general. Plus, the extra years mean more time to hone his skills, making him an even bigger challenge for Sonic.

Storm - 19
Storm's age was listed as 19, and I really don't have much of a problem with that. Yes he is the oldest of the Rogues, but with his size and strength I can believe it. Plus he can be seen as a follower, even of a boss younger than he is, due to his comparably lower intelligence. Thus I leave Storm's age the way it is.

Wave - 16
Despite looking a little underdeveloped for an 18 year old girl, Wave being significantly older than Jet asks many questions. Most notably, why is she bothering to take his s**t? Sonic Riders established that she already thought she should be in charge, but if that's so, why not just oust Jet? Giving her a lack of respect for Jet's leadership capabilities coupled with a large age gap of Wave in her late teens to Jet in his early teens, I can't see why Wave wouldn't have ousted Jet some time ago. So in the only instance thusfar, I am dropping Wave's age by two years. This leaves her slightly younger than Jet, allowing us to assume that some connection or form of respect that wouldn't have been able to exist previously is present. Wave could still believably possess the Extreme Gear skill she has, and the balance of power and control within the Rogues could be much easier to buy into.

Blaze - 16/17
Blaze's age has not officially been announced yet, but if I were to wager a guess I would say it's 16/17, the same age I have given for Sonic. Blaze is considered by many to be a counterpart of Sonic's in many respects, with some even going so far as to assume that Blaze is essentially an alternate version of Sonic, given their similar roles in the grand scheme of things. Thus in the interest of maintaining this seeming parallel between the two, it is easy to assume that Blaze's age is the same as Sonic, furthering the connection the two seem to share.

Silver - 15
Silver's personality has been described as being very dutiful and driven, but with an immature streak in him. Given the solemn nature of his duty, I can see his age as being similar to Sonic's, but the idea he is more immature makes me reduce his age from 16 to about 15. If his immature side is played in any way, this age would give Silver the excuse to show some immaturity while at the same time working to prevent the apocalypse. Of course Silver's age hasn't been stated officially yet, but given the circumstances I feel this age is accurate.

I don't expect everyone to share my perspective on the issue, but I feel that attempting to give the characters reasonable ages as opposed to blatantly trying to fabricate a sense of connection between the characters and a younger audience would serve to create a greater sense of believability in the characters.


I side with this guy. How about you?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:23 pm


I honestly don't care what age Sega says they are. Hell if they say Sonic's 53 I wouldn't care so long as it doesn't affect the game....

AaronTheGreat


Sea-Salt Ice Cream

PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:47 pm


Well, it IS a fictional world, so any real-life implications should most likely be thrown out the window.

Besides, you could always consider the fact that the Sonic gang is one of animals, which by nature mature MUCH faster than we simple humans (talking a year or even less at the earliest)...And yes, I know being anthro kinda already puts them moreso on the side of humans, but whateva. : p

Not to mention the fact that there's a TON of properties in Japan where the heroes are characters younger than one would assume to be mature enough to handle the situations. Heck, look at Gundam....they practically have kids in control of giant weapons of mass destruction! Then there's Pokemon.....what parent in real life would allow a ten-year-old to wander the world alone? I can go on and on, but hopefully you catch my drift.

I'm not exactly sure the reasons behind it...maybe that belief that the world's future rests with the young?


And, for the record....I thought Charmy was supposed to be 16 way back in Chaotix? Or was that Sega of America muckin' things up?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:58 am


Their ages doesn't bother me too much. (Except for Eggman when you use the logic of SA2, how old is the doctor when Mariah is his cousin anyway?) The merry troop already got three world mechanic geniuses so why bother about the age when someone younger comes around and is better?(DBZ-vibes, people. ^^')

A younger person can lead agroup if she or he is earned the title from their parents. Rebellion is something different. Plus that Storm isn't the brightest bulb in the tree, Wave obeys for other reasons. (My belief is that she is controlling behind the curtains, with some success.) For Jet being too young, I refrain to Resident Evil's gallery of childprodigies.... xd

That independence of Amy's can discussed, since it was blown apart after Sonic Adventure(: D X). ninja

Tails: Mozart was pretty young when his talent was dicovered if I am not mistaken.

Knuckles maturity can be discussed as he becomes tricked quite often, even in modern time.

Big can be anywhere from 15-35, he is still a slow thinker with a easygoing life, almost like Forest Gump. xd

About Charmy: He is a comic relief, that's it.
(Be aware kids, drugs might turn you into a cape toting man or lightdagger-using babe, when you are not reverting back to pre-school age. eek )

Fiyun


Paul Zuviel

PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:37 am


Sea-Salt Ice Cream
Well, it IS a fictional world, so any real-life implications should most likely be thrown out the window.

Besides, you could always consider the fact that the Sonic gang is one of animals, which by nature mature MUCH faster than we simple humans (talking a year or even less at the earliest)...And yes, I know being anthro kinda already puts them moreso on the side of humans, but whateva. : p

Not to mention the fact that there's a TON of properties in Japan where the heroes are characters younger than one would assume to be mature enough to handle the situations. Heck, look at Gundam....they practically have kids in control of giant weapons of mass destruction! Then there's Pokemon.....what parent in real life would allow a ten-year-old to wander the world alone? I can go on and on, but hopefully you catch my drift.


The whole animals age faster thing may be a good point. But then again, we don't know what Sega is thinking.

Gundam? They probably let those kids run nilly-willy when they get in those giant space battles. "Hey, kids, go nuts. Just make sure you kill everyone that's not us."

Pokemon? I highly doubt that Ash was 10 at the time. In his mid-teens, maybe. I'd probably say about 14 when he was just starting out. They dumbed it down to 10 to appeal to the kids of America.

Sea-Salt Ice Cream
And, for the record....I thought Charmy was supposed to be 16 way back in Chaotix? Or was that Sega of America muckin' things up?


Hmm....Probably mis-translated. Or, since the other characters were teenagers, Sega of America wanted some consistency.

Fiyun
That independence of Amy's can discussed, since it was blown apart after Sonic Adventure(: D X).

Tails: Mozart was pretty young when his talent was dicovered if I am not mistaken.

Knuckles maturity can be discussed as he becomes tricked quite often, even in modern time.


Amy, despite being rescued every ten minutes, is still pretty independent. Think about it, she lives alone in an apartment in a huge city, she goes grocery shopping on her own, exercises on her own, and, in most respects is a big sister figure to Cream. You can't find many 12 year-olds who can say that.

Mozart may have been talented at a young age, but to think he had the patience and the fortitude to want to become a musical genius.....it's questionable. At age 8, many kids just want to goof off with other children and play and have fun. If Mozart was a child prodigy, you can bet that one of his parents had a hand in forcing his musical studies upon him. Tails, on the other hand, doesn't have his parents with him to encourage him/egg him on. Sonic gives him positive reinforcement, but that's about it. Tails, at age 8, could not have enough patience nor willpower to follow through with many of his inventions.

Knuckles is easy to explain. Being alone for most of his life, Knuckles rarely gets involved with outsiders. Thus he doesn't fully comprehend the full extent of an outsider's nature. This in turn, caused him to think that most people are honest. Now, granted, we all know he should've learned by now, but I'm betting Sega is keeping this aspect of the series as a running gag.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:46 am


There are rumors at SonicCult that they discovered Silver is 13.

QuillzX


Fiyun

PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:26 am


chaos_king256
Fiyun
That independence of Amy's can discussed, since it was blown apart after Sonic Adventure(: D X).

Tails: Mozart was pretty young when his talent was dicovered if I am not mistaken.

Knuckles maturity can be discussed as he becomes tricked quite often, even in modern time.


Amy, despite being rescued every ten minutes, is still pretty independent. Think about it, she lives alone in an apartment in a huge city, she goes grocery shopping on her own, exercises on her own, and, in most respects is a big sister figure to Cream. You can't find many 12 year-olds who can say that.

Knuckles is easy to explain. Being alone for most of his life, Knuckles rarely gets involved with outsiders. Thus he doesn't fully comprehend the full extent of an outsider's nature. This in turn, caused him to think that most people are honest. Now, granted, we all know he should've learned by now, but I'm betting Sega is keeping this aspect of the series as a running gag.

The problem I see with Amy is that she is too obssessed and wraps up on Sonic, rock star-obssessed or on the way for "Misery"-aspects. xd (Stephen King)

Amy living alone can be discussed, since she haven't been living alone since Sonic Adventure,(Too many adventures, Sega. Fans demand a vacation for the animals!) being room mates with Cream in Sonic Battle. (That is never explained apart from Cream and Cheese being the daily punching bags, hence Amy's improvement in exercise, less to mention Rouge's fault. xd )

And around 12 and lives alone in an appartment? I want to see that lawbook of Sega's.

No doubt about Knuckles, I never seen him more confused then when Tails explained how a Air Gear could fly.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:32 pm


King Quillz
There are rumors at SonicCult that they discovered Silver is 13.


i can believe that for some reason, seeing as how he acts it really does not surprise me at all.

btw i did a lot of researching and this is what most sites seem to say about the ages:

Sonic: 16

Shadow: appears 16 (but is about 50 or more)

Knuckles: 18

Tails: 8

Rouge: 17

Cream: 6

Amy: 12

Big: 18

Charmy: 6

Vector: 20

Espio: 16

Eggman:40

Silver:13

Blaze:14

Princess Elise: 17

(if im missing any serously important characters, please let me know, i didnt list Omega btw because i did not get age info on him for i doubt there would be since he is a robot)

Yousei Hana


Itsu-Itsu

PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:12 pm


Yea, that seems about right to me.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:10 pm


Not that it really matters, but I'd figure they'd all be about 15. Sonic should be 15 going 16. Just seems right to me.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:16 pm


SEGA has never stated any of that information.

In the original Chaotix booklet, Charmy was 16 which was later retconned so he's now 6 according to SEGA.

Sonic is 15
Knuckles is 16
Tails is 10
Amy is 13
Big is 21
Shadow is 57 though he's ageless

Those are just some of SEGA's official ages for the characters. I don't care though so long as it doesn't affect the characters.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:25 am


chaos_king256
I was looking through the Sonic Heroes Manual and I find myself in disbelief over the official characters ages. To see if anyone else felt the same, I scanned the internet and found this.

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Tails - 13
Perhaps one of the most unbelievable ages was Tails'. For starters, you will not find an 8 year old alive who has the patience or intelligence to become one of the greatest engineers in the world, let alone knowledgable enough to fly a plane or construct a walking robot battle suit. Bringing Tails up to age 13 gives him the chance to develop the maturity, intelligence and patience it would take to give him the kind of skill he is supposed to have, and still make him young enough to idolize Sonic as an elder brother figure.


I side with this guy. How about you?


Just thought I'd toss this in here. In a very recent issue of the Archie Sonic comic book series, Tails quoted, himself, that he was actually 11. But as we all know, these are all different continuities. But I just thought I'd toss that fact into the mix.

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