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You going to ask next are women equal in this world.
And when we should wear our white hoods right?

I believe that this world in chrstianity would be nice.
But how your saying this world should be,is just obserd,You live in the U.S.A.,or a democratic country right?
well in the U.S. the founding fathers where all christian and founded the U.S.A for men and women to have equal rights.So to your beliefe system is taking that right away.....
Your saying how women are in the middle east before bush came and messed up there way of life..

Read the document that freed us my brother.
It says
"All men and women have the pursuit of happiness,ECT....."
Dont argue with some who gradnfather and a person who is in Demolay about American History....
Just warning you,I know alot,more than most of my teachers at that.....



But Poppy,you do know acting in theaters helped promote God and Christ?
The acting of his crufiction,his birth.
Clearly taking theaters and entertainment out of peoples life is taking away a good teachings.......

em,no.i just wrote about what my church believes in in the hope that some else in my church may be on this site.i had to describe our beliefs as we have no name.yes women are equal in the west anyway and i hope you arent refering to the klu klux klan when you say 'white hoods'.and no,thankful i'm not from america-i'm from ireland and equally democratic and christian country thanks so no i'm not taking that right away. oh,bush made thinks worse in the middle east.in fact both sexes are equal in my church-women could allways be 'priests' and have equal say in everything way before any other church i can think of.

Ok Poppy, let me get things straight. You take the Bible literally, but you let women be priests?

Taking the Bible literally will lead to this:



According to your beliefs, Poppy, women cannot be priests or teachers in church, because you take the Bible literally.

Now,

I'm not sure I understand this. If you ban tv (which by the way not everything is bad to watch; there are Christian channels and programs), radio (Christian stations?), and other modern technologies, why on Earth are you on the internet, where there is a plethora of more distracting stuff than on the radio, tv, cinema (there are many Christian movies nowadays like One Night With the King, Facing the Giants), etc.

I'm not trying to criticize you, but it seems to me like you contradict yourself too much.

yes,you are quite right,however its not me contradicting myself but my church which contradicts itself.dont think i havent put that towards the 'priests' and my parents as a kid.the bible does contradict itself an awful lot.eg-old testament says an eye for an eye,a tooth for a tooth but then the new testament says turn the other cheek.the only conclusion i got for that was that Jesus made the difference.I use the Internet as its allowed.to be honest i do think that the internet has a more harmful potential that say going to the theatre.perhaps timothy 1 was more with the 'times' then than now,i mean more women were treated like that then than now.

Eh, that's a gender generalisation. My (male) priest is probably one of the kindest, most caring people I know. It's not really fair to say that women are more caring, though I don't doubt that there are some amazing female priests out there.

All that largely depends on what you watch and who you are.

Personally, I don't watch much television (if I find a show I like, I usually rent the DVD set or something). I do agree that much of it is brain-rotting rubbish, but I don't think that something should be a sin just because it's a waste of time. Obviously people should use discrecion with what they watch. That shoudl go for everyone, regardless of what religion or religious sect they follow.

And of course young people shouldn't be watching certain things. I watch a lot of films, many of which tend to be pretty heavy on sex and language (I'm French, okay?), and obviously I wouldn't show them to my 10-year-old step-son. However, I know myself, and I know that I'm mature enough to be able to see a character having promiscuous sex and know that it's not a good idea, and to be able to decipher deeper, more profound meanings from films that portray a lot of "sinful" behaviour.


So, while I agree that there's a lot of trash out there that should be avoided, I still don't see that as a valid reason to ban the good stuff along with the bad.

Actually, I have to say your both wrong. The only document in our history of importance to mention God is the Constitution. However, you must not know that period of history, because you would know several things:

1. The popular theory of that time was the main philosophical belief of the Age of Reason(It had a name, i forget it), which was also tied to the Age of Enlightenment, and as such, you should ignore any mention to God as anything other than an intelligent attempt to indicate some power which they neither believed in any more, nor thought of, for any other reason than because they had been integrated as a puritan society when they came over on the mayflower. so when they mention God, it's simply philosophically and theoretically.

2. If you want to know just how much modern philosophically beliefs mattered, go see John Locke's page on wikipedia and read some of his beliefs, considering the Declaration takes this part from his beliefs:

Prudence indeed, will dictate, that Governments long established, should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

source: Declaration of Independence

3.

Really now? Let me put in the REAL sentence that your referring to, and just to allay your appetite, here's that sentence from both the Declaration of Independence and a reference in the Constitution:

Declaration:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Me: The word Men didn't include man as a race, it only included white land-owning men. Not Women, and definitely not the African Slaves, as they were seen as sub-human then.

Source of my statement:

in words: The Legal rights of women refers to the social and human rights of women. One of the first women's rights declarations was the Declaration of Sentiments. From women's involvement within the abolition movements, women of the early 1800s became aware of the male dominance in society. From then on women struggled for equality, and were largely rewarded.

Online:Women's Rights in history

source:Declaration of Independence

Outside Source: Understanding the Declaration of Independence

Constitution:


We the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty, to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Me: "We the People," didn't include women or slaves yet.

source:Constitution

second source=Constitution, full text