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 Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:48 pm
"The two dogs had sex.
"Yes children... SEX," said a bewildered friend of mine.
I'd just convinced her that the dogs Lady and Tramp from the movie Lady and the Tramp (honestly, how can a person have never have heard of that one?) did participate in sexual intercourse with one another, out of "marriage," inside the timeline of the said movie. Not having seen the movie but knowing it was a Disney production, she didn't want to and didn't believe me at first. I'd like to say I was lying, but that would be a lie.
Who remembers that park scene? Lady and Tramp spend the night out with each other, walking through heart-shaped archways, leaving paw prints in wet cement and - of course - creating the ever-important spaghetti scene. We leave them after these sequences and are brought back to the couple at sunrise the next day. The two wake up next to each other, and Tramp tempts Lady with freedom of the collar before she refuses and is walked home.
I was watching that and realised a bit later on (it did take a few minutes to register) that they could have very well have had sex while the camera wasn't looking. What can I say? I'm both observant, and lacking of a life. Anyway, I decided to continue my investigation on none other but Wikipedia. Upon typing in "Lady and the Tramp" and hitting the enter key, I was brought to the page dedicated to this film.
This did in fact confirm my theory - to my simultaneous horror and delight - that Lady and Tramp did indeed have sex with each other. The Wikipedia page can be found here. Scroll down to the "Trivia" section; eleventh bullet point.
Lady and the Tramp remains the first and so far, last Disney movie to suggest a sex scene.
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:44 pm
What about the Lion King when Nala and Simba are re-united? They obviously had to have had intercourse to be parents to Kiara in the second movie.
Also, I don't see how someone can see a bunch of puppies at the end of the movie that look like Lady and the Tramp and NOT think that they didn't have sex. That's really just unobservant.
Robin Hood didn't have any children at the end, but he and Main Marion had an "alone" scene that could have led to sex, that is, with the fancy music in near the waterfall after the "Phony King of England" song.
I wonder if I can think of any more... I'm such a huge Disney movie fan. I sometimes challenge my friends to think of a movie that I don't know a song to. xD Yeah, I'm that much of a loser. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:42 am
That's not loser, that's cool.
xD
More to the point, Simba and Nala didn't necessarily have sex during that Can You Feel the Love Tonight scene, following Nala's seductive "come hither" look. I don't see why they wouldn't, but there's a possibility that they didn't. Remember how the Pride Lands were all burnt out because of that fire, but they spring back to life and thus bring the audience back into the reprise of The Circle of Life? Well, that must have taken a good deal of time to happen - I figure at least a year. Lions can go into heat several times a year, and don't have a specific period of time when they mate the most. And since the average gestation period for a lion spans between 100 and 120 days - in theory - Simba and Nala could have mated three times and produced three litters of offspring between Simba's ascent to Pride Rock and the presentation of Kiara.
If you do go to that Wikipedia link, you'll see that there are several signs that Lady was in heat at the time; more reason for us to believe that she and Tramp did indeed participate in sexual intercourse before waking up in that park. Keep in mind that Trusty, the injured bloodhound still had his plaster cast on his leg at the end of the movie when we're introduced to Lady and Tramp's children for the first time. It couldn't have been too long between Trusty getting injured and Trusty in the last scene, and keep in mind those puppies do look quite young. Dog gestation periods last roughly 50 to 70 days. Couldn't have been too long at all. I think it's safe to say that Lady would have had to have been fertilised before Trusty's accident.
As for Robbin Hood, I can't say anything to that. Haven't seen it.
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:50 am
Ailinea What about the Lion King when Nala and Simba are re-united? They obviously had to have had intercourse to be parents to Kiara in the second movie. Also, I don't see how someone can see a bunch of puppies at the end of the movie that look like Lady and the Tramp and NOT think that they didn't have sex. That's really just unobservant. Robin Hood didn't have any children at the end, but he and Main Marion had an "alone" scene that could have led to sex, that is, with the fancy music in near the waterfall after the "Phony King of England" song. I wonder if I can think of any more... I'm such a huge Disney movie fan. I sometimes challenge my friends to think of a movie that I don't know a song to. xD Yeah, I'm that much of a loser. sweatdrop
The Lady and the Tramp information is great. I'd never really given it much thought before, but it certainly makes sense. More modern movies, like The Little Mermaid, do have adult-themed gags that the animators put in (if you watch The Little Mermaid's wedding scene, the priest is having a bit of an issue downstairs. I didn't beleive it until I watched it again after hearing the rumor).
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:58 pm
Lady Nekochan Ailinea What about the Lion King when Nala and Simba are re-united? They obviously had to have had intercourse to be parents to Kiara in the second movie. Also, I don't see how someone can see a bunch of puppies at the end of the movie that look like Lady and the Tramp and NOT think that they didn't have sex. That's really just unobservant. Robin Hood didn't have any children at the end, but he and Main Marion had an "alone" scene that could have led to sex, that is, with the fancy music in near the waterfall after the "Phony King of England" song. I wonder if I can think of any more... I'm such a huge Disney movie fan. I sometimes challenge my friends to think of a movie that I don't know a song to. xD Yeah, I'm that much of a loser. sweatdrop
The Lady and the Tramp information is great. I'd never really given it much thought before, but it certainly makes sense. More modern movies, like The Little Mermaid, do have adult-themed gags that the animators put in (if you watch The Little Mermaid's wedding scene, the priest is having a bit of an issue downstairs. I didn't beleive it until I watched it again after hearing the rumor).I read somewhere that that was supposed to be his knee.
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:43 pm
Lady Nekochan Ailinea What about the Lion King when Nala and Simba are re-united? They obviously had to have had intercourse to be parents to Kiara in the second movie. Also, I don't see how someone can see a bunch of puppies at the end of the movie that look like Lady and the Tramp and NOT think that they didn't have sex. That's really just unobservant. Robin Hood didn't have any children at the end, but he and Main Marion had an "alone" scene that could have led to sex, that is, with the fancy music in near the waterfall after the "Phony King of England" song. I wonder if I can think of any more... I'm such a huge Disney movie fan. I sometimes challenge my friends to think of a movie that I don't know a song to. xD Yeah, I'm that much of a loser. sweatdrop
The Lady and the Tramp information is great. I'd never really given it much thought before, but it certainly makes sense. More modern movies, like The Little Mermaid, do have adult-themed gags that the animators put in (if you watch The Little Mermaid's wedding scene, the priest is having a bit of an issue downstairs. I didn't beleive it until I watched it again after hearing the rumor).My information, or the stuff on Wikipedia?
The stuff on Wikipedia's awesome. I didn't believe it at first, because there were so many things - so many pieces of evidence supporting the theory of Lady and Tramp's sexual activity. I didn't think that Walt Disney would put such a thing into one of his movies - because he was actually alive for the making of this one - but it even says there that he acknowledged the fact. And it couldn't all be a huge coincidence.
One thing I never understood was why Darling and Jim Dear never bothered to get Lady spayed. With such an expensive, fine dog and such a seemingly wealthy couple, I don't see why they wouldn't. It's the creative license, I guess. But don't you just love it when every single thing in a story just... works?
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:03 pm
Poodle Crusader Lady Nekochan Ailinea What about the Lion King when Nala and Simba are re-united? They obviously had to have had intercourse to be parents to Kiara in the second movie. Also, I don't see how someone can see a bunch of puppies at the end of the movie that look like Lady and the Tramp and NOT think that they didn't have sex. That's really just unobservant. Robin Hood didn't have any children at the end, but he and Main Marion had an "alone" scene that could have led to sex, that is, with the fancy music in near the waterfall after the "Phony King of England" song. I wonder if I can think of any more... I'm such a huge Disney movie fan. I sometimes challenge my friends to think of a movie that I don't know a song to. xD Yeah, I'm that much of a loser. sweatdrop
The Lady and the Tramp information is great. I'd never really given it much thought before, but it certainly makes sense. More modern movies, like The Little Mermaid, do have adult-themed gags that the animators put in (if you watch The Little Mermaid's wedding scene, the priest is having a bit of an issue downstairs. I didn't beleive it until I watched it again after hearing the rumor).My information, or the stuff on Wikipedia?
The stuff on Wikipedia's awesome. I didn't believe it at first, because there were so many things - so many pieces of evidence supporting the theory of Lady and Tramp's sexual activity. I didn't think that Walt Disney would put such a thing into one of his movies - because he was actually alive for the making of this one - but it even says there that he acknowledged the fact. And it couldn't all be a huge coincidence.
One thing I never understood was why Darling and Jim Dear never bothered to get Lady spayed. With such an expensive, fine dog and such a seemingly wealthy couple, I don't see why they wouldn't. It's the creative license, I guess. But don't you just love it when every single thing in a story just... works?
@ Lupine Pyrefly - His knee, huh? I can kind of see that. I'd have to play the actual movie myself again to see. The You Tube versions are too pixelated and messed up to tell.
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:18 pm
Lady Nekochan Poodle Crusader Lady Nekochan Ailinea What about the Lion King when Nala and Simba are re-united? They obviously had to have had intercourse to be parents to Kiara in the second movie. Also, I don't see how someone can see a bunch of puppies at the end of the movie that look like Lady and the Tramp and NOT think that they didn't have sex. That's really just unobservant. Robin Hood didn't have any children at the end, but he and Main Marion had an "alone" scene that could have led to sex, that is, with the fancy music in near the waterfall after the "Phony King of England" song. I wonder if I can think of any more... I'm such a huge Disney movie fan. I sometimes challenge my friends to think of a movie that I don't know a song to. xD Yeah, I'm that much of a loser. sweatdrop
The Lady and the Tramp information is great. I'd never really given it much thought before, but it certainly makes sense. More modern movies, like The Little Mermaid, do have adult-themed gags that the animators put in (if you watch The Little Mermaid's wedding scene, the priest is having a bit of an issue downstairs. I didn't beleive it until I watched it again after hearing the rumor).My information, or the stuff on Wikipedia?
The stuff on Wikipedia's awesome. I didn't believe it at first, because there were so many things - so many pieces of evidence supporting the theory of Lady and Tramp's sexual activity. I didn't think that Walt Disney would put such a thing into one of his movies - because he was actually alive for the making of this one - but it even says there that he acknowledged the fact. And it couldn't all be a huge coincidence.
One thing I never understood was why Darling and Jim Dear never bothered to get Lady spayed. With such an expensive, fine dog and such a seemingly wealthy couple, I don't see why they wouldn't. It's the creative license, I guess. But don't you just love it when every single thing in a story just... works?
@ Lupine Pyrefly - His knee, huh? I can kind of see that. I'd have to play the actual movie myself again to see. The You Tube versions are too pixelated and messed up to tell.I'm going to have to see that movie.
Bah. I call myself a Disney fan, and I haven't even seen The Little Mermaid.
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:29 pm
woh! eek i never would have guessed that i need to pay way more attention to movies...
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:24 am
I used to watch a Disney Movie Every Second day a while back. People Could name any line from any Disney movie and I could tell them what it was from. Im not sure I could Now though sweatdrop But I too am a fan. I always play guess that Disney Charictor with my family -->I say the begging letter of a charictors name and you ask questiosn about it. Like does it swim, is it male, is it a classic (Jungle book was the last movie Walt Disney personaly worked on), minor charictor, etc. Yes or no questions. You can not ask what Disney Movie it is from , or you woill get it too easily...
Do you want to play?? hmm?
If so heres my letter "F"
So ask questions related...
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:33 pm
Dogs can't get married, so either way it wouldn't matter. I don't think it's wrong to anyway but that's a whole different can of worms.
I've always hated that movie, I hate movies where the idea of cats being evil gets perpetuated. Tom and Jerry, Itchy and Scratchy, Sylvester and Tweety, "we are Siamese". My reaction to that is to automatically dislike the protagonists. I still can't stand Tweety Bird.
Usually I watch Disney movies again when I hear these things. I absolutely love most of them (<3 Beauty and the Beast & The Lion King) but I'll pass this time and take your word for it.
I don't know if there's a Wikipedia article mentioning it but there's a really disturbing Freudian theory about The Little Mermaid. I won't post it but I'd be willing to copy it into a PM.
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:15 pm
If you google little mermaid you can find the freudian theory, or at least the sexual innuendo's explained almost anywhere. That is because the book that was written was much more of an R rated version (if you read between the lines) than the Disney version, though the Disney version still touched on some topics of 'becoming a woman'.
Dogs can get married, or at least their owners can arrange to have a doggie wedding performed. I am sure with how wealthy Dear and Jim Darling are portrayed to be that the Lady and Tramp surely would have had a doggie wedding at some point.
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:41 pm
Mostly All Disney movies were made by the use of drugs and sex... so it isn't really all that much of a serprize if they did or didn't have "intercourse" They are all married and had children so they did in some time did have some sexual fun in bed. For example the dalmations had 101 puppies, so they must have done it TONS!!! of times. You could even say that he couldn't keep his paws off her wink if you know what I mean. lol and also Lady isn't really a Lady anymore, but a Tramp. Common she went for the ally stray dog, instead of a well groom house dog. So she likes the more dangerous types. rofl
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:57 pm
Subtle naughty things always happen in Disney movies
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:16 am
It's true, characters may have "had some fun" sometime in the movie off screen, but I never really thought about it. In fact, I don't think we were s'posed to think about in great depth! The movie was made (for the most part) for kids, and this stuff doesn't matter to them. It's just like, "Look, they love each other!" And later, "Look at the cute puppies!"
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