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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:27 am
Good ole' chap Tommuel's own wording: Taken from one of the many Combichrist/KMFDM threads: Tommuel v.2 Industrial music orignally started as a way of completley "destroying music - it was supposed to be a different variation of what you're used to hearing", a "chaotic sound laboratory", it was more a load of experimental noise. Noise and true industrial is linked with torture, nihilism and hyper-consumerism. Where's all this in this soppy EBM balls?
Yes, there's the old industrial, Throbbing Gristle and the likes, Whitehouse, Merzbow etc, but some of the newish stuff being released like power electronics and powernoise is fantastic. It still stays true to the meaning and genre.
Throbbing Gristle started the genre you all know [and abuse the name] as they started Industrial Records in London. I would like to believe Skinny Puppy; while not being an actual act on industrial records....would still be qualified as industrial? I mean hell....Puppy Gristle?!?!? Jam sessions with Genesis P'Orridge himself. So here it is. Speak of the true industrial here. Not just Skinny Puppy but....true industrial.
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:15 am
Genesisp-orridge.com Born in Manchester, England 1950. Member of Kinetic action group EXPLODING GALAXY/TRANSMEDIA EXPLORATION, 1969-70. Conceived and founded seminal British “performance art” group COUM TRANSMISSIONS, 1969; pioneer co-founder (with Cosey Fanni Tutti,Peter Christopherson, Chris Carter) of THROBBING GRISTLE, 1975; co-founder (with Alex Fergusson) of hyperdelic acid house innovators PSYCHIC TV, 1981; founded spoken word/ambient music performance group THEE MAJESTY 1999. Invented the term/genre INDUSTRIAL MUSIC (with Monte Cazazza) September 3rd 1975, releasing more than 200 CDs of experiments in music to date. Has worked and collaborated with Beatnik writers WILLIAM S. BURROUGHS and BRION GYSIN (champion of “Cut-Ups”); radical queer filmaker DEREK JARMAN; psychedlic guru DR. TIMOTHY LEARY and many other luminaries. Early pioneer/innovator of Acid House/Rave Movement in UK and USA from early 80’s-mid-90’s. Early champion of internet and commentator on it’s media virus cultural implications, often collaborating with DOUGLAS RUSHKOFF, RICHARD METZGER (of Disinformation) and other leading figures in CYBERIA. He has published thousands of articles, texts, interviews covering the functional and metaphysical implications and strategies of popular culture. Also explored human behaviour, ritual, and personality modification through splintering of expectation in private magickal situations to create neo-shamanic collaged paintings called “SIGILS”. Currently resides in New York area as an author, cultural engineer/commentator and fine artist. Has performed his improvised "Expanded Poetry" as THEE MAJESTY (with guitarist Bryin Dall, guitarist Lady J. and tabla player Larry Thrasher) at arts festivals and music venues all over the USA and Europe since 1998. Current work includes a monograph on his fine art “PAINFUL BUT FABULOUS” (Soft Skull Press, NYC 2003) and exhibitions, installations and lectures across Europe and the USA.
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:47 pm
this thread needs more posts.
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:11 pm
I highly recommend the Re/Search Guide to Industrial Music. Frigging fascinating history of the genre with interviews of several seminal artists; I found it in a comic store at random for something like $5. Must-have for any industrial fans. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:43 am
La Veuve Zin I highly recommend the Re/Search Guide to Industrial Music. Frigging fascinating history of the genre with interviews of several seminal artists; I found it in a comic store at random for something like $5. Must-have for any industrial fans. 3nodding Linkzorz? smile I will admit. It took a few listens to TG for me to get into it. But, I must say I like it now. I'm starting to listen to noise a bit, too.
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:41 am
La Veuve Zin I highly recommend the Re/Search Guide to Industrial Music. Frigging fascinating history of the genre with interviews of several seminal artists; I found it in a comic store at random for something like $5. Must-have for any industrial fans. 3nodding i think i remember tommuel mentioning this to me one time. IIRC, his teacher gave (or lent) it to him. throbbing gristle is essential listening for any indutrial fan worth his own salt.
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:33 am
The first Throbbing Gristle song I heard was "Adrinalin" smile
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:39 pm
Zyclon B Zombie was my first. Discipline was the second. Here's a link to a Discipline video. Discipline video
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:24 am
La Veuve Zin I highly recommend the Re/Search Guide to Industrial Music. Frigging fascinating history of the genre with interviews of several seminal artists; I found it in a comic store at random for something like $5. Must-have for any industrial fans. 3nodding I have it, well, photo copies of it. I read some of it and it's amazing. Apparently it's undeground literature, and is out of print. Thanks for he opening post <3
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:21 pm
70MMU3L La Veuve Zin I highly recommend the Re/Search Guide to Industrial Music. Frigging fascinating history of the genre with interviews of several seminal artists; I found it in a comic store at random for something like $5. Must-have for any industrial fans. 3nodding I have it, well, photo copies of it. I read some of it and it's amazing. Apparently it's undeground literature, and is out of print. Thanks for he opening post <3 Pics?
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:20 pm
You want me to scan it, shithead?
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:31 am
i don't see why not, come to think of it.
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:34 am
I checked my itunes for industrial bands:
Hanzel und Gretyl Decoded Feedback Delerium cEvin Key Froot Fly Joker KMFDM Ministry Nine Inch Nails OhGr Rammstein Skinny Puppy
I find a lot of my favourite bands hard to label...usually they fit several genres. I will check out Throbbing Gristle. I have some Nettwork samplers at home too, maybe some older industrial on them.
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:17 am
I'll help you there.
Hanzel und Gretyl = EBM Decoded Feedback = EBM Delerium = EBM cEvin Key = ambient/IDM very ******** good Froot Fly = never heard Joker = never heard KMFDM = "industrial rock" bah Ministry = "industrial metal" bah Nine Inch Nails = "industrial pop" bah OhGr = just electro I guess Rammstein = metal Skinny Puppy = industrial
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:01 pm
70MMU3L Hanzel und Gretyl = EBM/hard rock Delerium = trance/ambient Nine Inch Nails = rock, with industrial influences. Rammstein = hard rock fix'd
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