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phantom912

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:53 pm


1. halloween is on the same day as Samhain, a wiccan holiday where all wiccans believe the bridge between the world of the living and the world of the dead is connected; this is the only night that wiccans would perform a seance.
2. Ever wonder how trick-or-treating got started? On the evening before Samhain, people left food on their doorsteps to keep hungry spirits from entering the house. Festivalgoers started dressing in ghost, witch, and goblin costumes so wandering spirits would leave them alone. To this day, these are Halloween's most popular costumes.
3. The word witch comes from the Saxon word wicca, which means "wise one."
4. Black cats, those customary Halloween icons, were originally believed to be witches' familiars, a kind of cosmic sidekick who protected the witches' powers from negative forces.
5. About 99% of pumpkins marketed domestically are used as Jack O'Lanterns at Halloween.
6. In the United States, 86% of Americans decorate their homes for Halloween.
7. Legendary magician Harry Houdini died in Detroit of gangrene and peritonitis resulting from a ruptured appendix on Halloween in 1926.
8. Vampires think Halloween is tacky and don't bother going out that night.
9. The original Halloween film directed by John Carpenter in 1978 cost just $320,000 to make. It ended up making over $50m worldwide.
10. People have believed for centuries that light keeps away ghosts and ghouls. Making a pumpkin lantern with a candle inside may keep you safe from all the spooky spirits flying around on Halloween.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:16 pm


phantom912
1. halloween is on the same day as Samhain, a wiccan holiday where all wiccans believe the bridge between the world of the living and the world of the dead is connected; this is the only night that wiccans would perform a seance.
2. Ever wonder how trick-or-treating got started? On the evening before Samhain, people left food on their doorsteps to keep hungry spirits from entering the house. Festivalgoers started dressing in ghost, witch, and goblin costumes so wandering spirits would leave them alone. To this day, these are Halloween's most popular costumes.
3. The word witch comes from the Saxon word wicca, which means "wise one."
4. Black cats, those customary Halloween icons, were originally believed to be witches' familiars, a kind of cosmic sidekick who protected the witches' powers from negative forces.
5. About 99% of pumpkins marketed domestically are used as Jack O'Lanterns at Halloween.
6. In the United States, 86% of Americans decorate their homes for Halloween.
7. Legendary magician Harry Houdini died in Detroit of gangrene and peritonitis resulting from a ruptured appendix on Halloween in 1926.
8. Vampires think Halloween is tacky and don't bother going out that night.
9. The original Halloween film directed by John Carpenter in 1978 cost just $320,000 to make. It ended up making over $50m worldwide.
10. People have believed for centuries that light keeps away ghosts and ghouls. Making a pumpkin lantern with a candle inside may keep you safe from all the spooky spirits flying around on Halloween.


yep because i'm wicca 3nodding
1. halloween is on the same day as Samhain, a wiccan holiday where all wiccans believe the bridge between the world of the living and the world of the dead is connected; this is the only night that wiccans would perform a seance.

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Neko_Kitsuni

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:39 pm


phantom912
1. halloween is on the same day as Samhain, a wiccan holiday where all wiccans believe the bridge between the world of the living and the world of the dead is connected; this is the only night that wiccans would perform a seance.

Yup... that's where the holiday came from. It went from pagan new year to catholic saints day to commercialized candy day.
Ain't it grand?

phantom912
2. Ever wonder how trick-or-treating got started? On the evening before Samhain, people left food on their doorsteps to keep hungry spirits from entering the house. Festivalgoers started dressing in ghost, witch, and goblin costumes so wandering spirits would leave them alone. To this day, these are Halloween's most popular costumes.

There's a tradition called Nut Crack Night that derives from this too.
Trick-or-treating came about in the U.S. because people used to go out and basically trash the city on Halloween night. To discourage this, people started offering candy.
I have a book that gives lots of background info on this... unfortunately it's lost in my creative mess at the moment... *sigh*

phantom912
3. The word witch comes from the Saxon word wicca, which means "wise one."

4. Black cats, those customary Halloween icons, were originally believed to be witches' familiars, a kind of cosmic sidekick who protected the witches' powers from negative forces.

Black cats were burned because of that, too. Lots of other creatures were also believed to be familiars, like lizards, and basically anything nocturnal.

phantom912
5. About 99% of pumpkins marketed domestically are used as Jack O'Lanterns at Halloween.

O.O Wow. I wonder what is the other 1% used for?

phantom912
6. In the United States, 86% of Americans decorate their homes for Halloween.

Quick, let's convert the other 14%! XD

phantom912
7. Legendary magician Harry Houdini died in Detroit of gangrene and peritonitis resulting from a ruptured appendix on Halloween in 1926.

I knew that was how he died, but I had no idea he died on Halloween. eek

phantom912
8. Vampires think Halloween is tacky and don't bother going out that night.

o.O
Which vampires are we talking about?

phantom912
9. The original Halloween film directed by John Carpenter in 1978 cost just $320,000 to make. It ended up making over $50m worldwide.

10. People have believed for centuries that light keeps away ghosts and ghouls. Making a pumpkin lantern with a candle inside may keep you safe from all the spooky spirits flying around on Halloween.


Ah, but do you know what they use in the 'Old World'?

TURNIPS!

Pumpkins are native to the Americas. Before the Celtic colonists came here and discovered the pumpkin, they used to carve large turnips (I should mention that turnips are a lot bigger there than they typically are in the States).
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:10 pm


Yay! I found my book!

Apparently, October 30th was 'Mischief Night'. It got progressively worse as the tradition wore on - eventually the KKK started doing really nasty stuff, and it just became an all-around dangerous night.

In the early twentieth century, the Boy Scouts started Trick-or-Treating Night to discourage crime and vandalism by keeping youngsters busy. Their efforts didn't put much of a dent in crime until World War II, when it became unpatriotic to vandalism property and waste resources. After the war, the efforts to revert to old customs of house-begging and parades resumed, and we got our modern celebration.

By the way, Guy Fawkes Day is also connected to Hallowe'en trick-or-treating traditions... Remember remember the first of November?
Hallowe'en started out as November Eve.

Kind cool, eh? rofl

Neko_Kitsuni


gothicsaddness

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:12 am


phantom912
4. Black cats, those customary Halloween icons, were originally believed to be witches' familiars, a kind of cosmic sidekick who protected the witches' powers from negative forces.
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see i have been telling people that and the whole thing about a black cat crossing your path and you will have bad luck thing is all wrong

poor cats they are just lazy happy little animals that are cute that some one would kill them just cuse they are afraid of them just gos to show that humans are what we all should be afraid of
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:33 pm


I waqs very intrested, thank you.

ImMatches


flaming_demon

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:33 pm


I heard that the tradition of jack 'o lanterns got started during colonial times when witches would go out on the thirty-first of October in search of female virgins from every house, and when the residents refused(which I think most did), the witches would place a flaming pumkin outside of the house so they would know to come back later and destroy the house.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:06 pm


flaming_demon
I heard that the tradition of jack 'o lanterns got started during colonial times when witches would go out on the thirty-first of October in search of female virgins from every house, and when the residents refused(which I think most did), the witches would place a flaming pumkin outside of the house so they would know to come back later and destroy the house.
Umm...where did you here that? NO ONE WOULD LIGHT PUMPKINS THEN! I'D BE HELLA SCARED THEN TO HAVE A PUMPKIN IN MY FRONT YARD! AND THE FLAMING PUMPKIN WOULD DESTROY THE HOUSE ALREADY! *flails* I WOULDN'T LIKE PUMPKINS IF A PUMPKIN LANTERN MEANT I WAS GOING TO DIE!! DDD: YOU HAVE FLAMING IN YOUR NAME! ARE YOU GOING TO SET A FLAMING PUMPKIN ON MY DOORSTEP!? I DUN WANNA DIE BECAUSE OF A PUMPKIN!! ;o;

ANYWAY, my nighttime induced ranting aside, the Pumpkin Lantern could also derive from the legend of Jack, who caused so much mischief not even the Devil wanted him, so he when he died he was forced to wander the Earth for the rest of his life, holding a lit lantern.

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Neko_Kitsuni

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:42 pm


flaming_demon
I heard that the tradition of jack 'o lanterns got started during colonial times when witches would go out on the thirty-first of October in search of female virgins from every house, and when the residents refused(which I think most did), the witches would place a flaming pumkin outside of the house so they would know to come back later and destroy the house.


Umm... I'm not sure what your source is... but that's incorrect.

The only reason we carve pumpkins is because they're better than turnips...

The carving tradition originated from this story:

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Once upon a time there was a farmer by the name of Jack. He was rather likable, but had a terrible strain of laziness. His build was tall and lanky, his smile was lopsided (complete with a missing tooth), and his laugh was deep and rumbling.

One day, the Devil grew bored with tempting the rich folk - it was far too easy. He set out to find a poor boy, and soon set eyes upon Jack, who was sleeping under a big oak tree.

"Jack," said the Devil, "I've come to take your soul."

Well, Jack retorted with nary a blink, "If'n you can climb that oak tree and touch the top, then you kin have it." Of course, no one in the county could climb to the top of that tree, which Jack knew well.

The Devil took him up on the offer, and climbed the tree, but then he got stuck and couldn't get down.

"Jack, help me down," he said.

"Nope," Jack replied, "because if'n I do, you'll want to take my soul. If'n you stay in that tree, you cain't git me."

Well, the Devil is prone to making deals to get out of certain situations, and this was one of them. After some thought, he said, "Jack, if'n you help me down, I'll give you anythin' you want. Just name it."

Jack pondered this, walking around the tree and looking up at the Devil. Finally, he answered, "Okay. If'n I let you down, you have to promise me that you'll never allow me into hell."

The Devil agreed, and Jack helped him down.

Jack was very pleased by this turn of events, and proceeded to live a life full of drinking, gambling, and other men's women. Finally, he died.

He went to heaven, but of course the angel wouldn't let him in for his sins on earth. Jack went to the gates of Hell, but the demon wouldn't let him in - he'd made the deal himself. However, the demon did give him a way out - "There's no room at this end unless, of course, you can exchange your soul for another's."

Well, Jack complained, "But it's dark down here and I cain't see. How will I find someone to take my place?"

The demon threw Jack a burning coal. Jack, not being stupid, put the coal in a hollowed-out turnip. He walks between the worlds, searching for someone to take his place.

On Hallowe'en, when the veil between the worlds is thin, you can see Jack wandering, searching. If you hollow out a turnip and put a lighted candle inside, Jack will think you're lost like him, and won't try to trick you into taking his place - he never was a brilliant man.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:18 pm


hmm i usually say that i never learn anything lol, i just learned a sh*tload...thanks for the info

AluRMeiN


Amanda the archer

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:57 pm


Neko_Kitsuni
Yay! I found my book!

Apparently, October 30th was 'Mischief Night'. It got progressively worse as the tradition wore on - eventually the KKK started doing really nasty stuff, and it just became an all-around dangerous night.

In the early twentieth century, the Boy Scouts started Trick-or-Treating Night to discourage crime and vandalism by keeping youngsters busy. Their efforts didn't put much of a dent in crime until World War II, when it became unpatriotic to vandalism property and waste resources. After the war, the efforts to revert to old customs of house-begging and parades resumed, and we got our modern celebration.

By the way, Guy Fawkes Day is also connected to Hallowe'en trick-or-treating traditions... Remember remember the first of November?
Hallowe'en started out as November Eve.

Kind cool, eh? rofl


Are yoth goup teacher just told us about Halloween is actually Saints day we're celebrating Saints day at church this year in matter of fact.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:05 pm


i'm a wiccan so i guess that makes sense on why i love halloween so much...

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The True Diva Divine

PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:00 pm


Very cool.

I think it's sort of cool how many more Wiccans there are in this guild then in my own town.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:42 pm


there are alot of wiccans and pagans then you think wink Just to add about halloween it also has something to do with the beginning or end of a harvest i cant recall exactly which. There is also alot of other events that happen on the same day that around everything you all been talking about.

Darzeth


Sypherengel

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:53 pm


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Black cats were burned because of that, too. Lots of other creatures were also believed to be familiars, like lizards, and basically anything nocturnal.


You know...This is totally off-topic, but, people around here SUCK. Not only has Halloween gone so downhill in my crappy town, but I have to keep my cats inside on Halloween because sick freaks will take them and cut them up! gonk
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