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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:40 pm


Supernatural - 2x04 - Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things
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Aired: Thursday October 19, 2006

Baddies: Angela, a 'revenant'.

Sources: tv.com, loyalfans.net

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:41 pm


Episode Recap:

Dean and Sam assist a heartbroken college student who consoles his long-time crush after her breakup and then loses her in a car accident, but the student soon gets in over his head when he uses necromancy to bring her back from the dead.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:42 pm


Lore:

In Fantasy/Fiction:

The term revenant usually means a sentient creature whose desire to complete a goal (usually to avenge its death) allows it to return from the grave as a creature vaguely resembling an intelligent zombie. Another possibility is that a powerful wizard returns a dead hero from the past to make him go on a quest that no living human would dare to undertake. Such a revenant may be just as intelligent as it was in life but its will is usually bound by the wizard who summons and controls it.

In the Middle Ages:

A revenant was an animate corpse which rose from the grave to haunt the living.

Many stories were documented by English historians as examplified by William of Newburgh who wrote in the 1190s "one would not easily believe that corpses come out of their graves and wander around, animated by I don't know what spirit, to terrorize or harm the living, unless there were many cases in our times, supported by ample testimony".

Stories of revenants were very personal, always about a specific individual who had recently died (unlike the anonymous zombie depicted in modern popular culture such as Night of the Living Dead), and had a number of common features:

-Those who return from the dead are wrongdoers in their lifetime, often described as wicked or vain or unbelievers.
-Are associated with the spreading of disease among the living. At least one story might be interpreted as suggesting that sucking of blood i.e. vampirism has occurred - in which case it would be one of the earliest known accounts of vampirism.
-In most revenant cases, the appropriate response is exhumation, followed by some form of decapitation, burning or removal of the heart.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:43 pm


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:45 pm


Interesting Facts:

-The title references a 1972 zombie movie in which a group of actors lead by their director, Alan, performs a black magic ritual on a island graveyard and causes the dead to rise and kill them all. A remake of the movie is apparently in the works for sometime in late 2006. (edit)

-This episode was alternately titled "Afterlife"

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:46 pm


Quotes:

Sam: Look man.. no one asked you to come.
Dean: Why don’t we swing by the roadhouse instead. I mean we haven’t heard anything on the demon lately, w-we should be hunting that son-of-a-b***h down.
Sam: That’s a good idea, you should. Just drop me off, I’ll hitch a ride, and I’ll meet you there tomorrow.
Dean: Right.. huh.. S-sstuck with those people. Makin’ awkward small talk until you show up. No thanks.

Sam: I think uh.. I think dad woulda wanted you to have these. (burying John’s dog tags)

Dean: (in response to Sam’s lack of enthusiasm) Well don’t get too excited, you might pull something.
Sam: It’s just.. stumbling onto a hunt. Here, of all places.
Dean: So?
Sam: So.. are you sure this is about a hunt and not about something else?
Dean: What else would it be about?
Sam: You know, just forget it.

Dean: S’gotta be hard. Losing someone like that. Sometimes it’s like there still around. Almost like you can still sense their presence. (Sam looks at dean with a ‘what are you getting at’ expression) You ever feel anything like that?
Dr. Mason: I do as a matter of fact.
Sam: (looking at Dean) That’s perfectly normal Dr. Mason. Especially with what you’re going through.
Dr. Mason: You know I still phone her. And the phone’s ringing before I remember that uh.. family’s everything, you know? Angie was the most important thing in my life. And now uh.. I’m just lost without her.
Sam: We’re very sorry.

Sam: Look, maybe you’re imagining a hunt where there isn’t one so you don’t have to think about mom.. or dad. (Dean stares at Sam with a ‘I want to hit you again’ look) *sigh* You wanna take another swing, go ahead. If it’ll make you feel better.
Dean: I don’t need this crap.
Sam: Dean, where are you goin’?
Dean: I’m gonna go get a drink. Alone.

Dean: I’m Angela’s cousin!
Angela’s Friend: What?
Dean: Yah, her dad sent me over to uh.. ta pick up her stuff. My name’s Allen. Allen Stanwick?
Angela’s Friend: Her dad didn’t say that you were coming.
Dean: Huh.. well, I mean, (pulls up Impala keys) how else would I have the key to your place?

TV: Next, on the Skin Channel ‘Cassa Erotica 4’ a tale of two Latin beauties.
Sam: (turns off TV as Dean walks in).. Hey..... (Dean looks to TV, back to Sam) What?
Dean:..Awkward.
Sam: Where the hell were you?
Dean: (walks over to TV) Just workin’ my imaginary case. (drapes coat over TV while giving the ‘Hot XXX Payperview’ display an up and down look)
Sam: Yeah, and?
Dean: Oh well, you were right, I didn’t find much. (Sam gives a ‘knowing’ nod) Except Angela’s boyfriend died last night. Slit his own throat, but you know, that’s normal. Uh.. let’s see what else, oh he was seeing Angela everywhere before he died. But you know I’m sure that’s just me transferring my own feelings.
Sam: Ok, I get it. I’m sorry, maybe there is something going on here.
Dean: Maybe? Sam, I know how to do my job despite what you might think.

Sam: You stole the girls diary?
Dean: Yeah, Sam.. and if anything, the girl’s a little TOO nice.
Sam: So what do you wanna do?
Dean: Keep diggin’, talk to more of her friends.
Sam: You get any names?
Dean: You kiddin me? I have her bestest friend in the whole wide world. (throws diary to Sam)

Neil: I didn’t realize the college employed grief counselors.
Dean: Oh yeah. Yah, you talk, we listen. You know maybe throw in a little therapeutic collage, whatever helps jump-start the healing.
Neil: Well.. I think I’m ok. Thanks.

Sam: So.. if Angela got her revenge on Matt, you think it’s over?
Dean: Well, there’s one way to be sure.
Sam: And? What’s that?
Dean: Burn the bones.
Sam: Burn the bones? *laughs* Are you high? (Dean thinks) Angela died last week!
Dean: So?
Sam: So there’s not gonna be bones. There’s gonna be uh-uh ripe, rotting, body in the coffin.
Dean: Since when are you afraid to get dirty? Huh? (Sam still gives him the ‘are you serious’ look as they drive away)

Dr Mason: What’s all this about?
Dean: I think you know.
Sam: Dean-
Dean: Look, I get it. Ok, there are people that I would give anything to see again. But what gives you the right-
Sam: Dean!
Dr. Mason: What are you talking about?
Dean: What’s dead should stay dead
Dr. Mason: What?
Sam: Stop it!
Dean: What you brought back isn’t even your daughter anymore! These things are vicious! They’re violent! They’re so nasty they rot the ground around them I mean come on! Haven’t you seen Pet Cemetery?
Dr Mason: You’re insane. (goes to the phone)
Dean: Where is she?
Dr Mason: Get out of my house!
Dean: (grabs phone and hangs it up) I know you’re hiding her somewhere. Where is she?
Sam: Dean! Stop that’s enough! Dean look! Living plants. (to Dr Mason) We’re leaving.
Dr Mason: I’m calling the police.
Sam: Sir, we’re sorry. We won’t bother you again.

Sam: Dean. I don’t scare easy, but man, you’re scarin the crap out of me.
Dean: Don’t be overdramatic Sammy.
Sam: You’re lucky this turned out to be a real case. Cause if it wasn’t you would have just found something else to kill.
Dean: Wha-
Sam: You’re on edge, you’re erratic. Except for when you’re hunting, cause then you’re downright scary. You’re tail spinning man. And you refuse to talk about it, and you won’t let me help you.
Dean: I can take care of myself, thanks.
Sam: No you can’t! And you know what? You’re the only one that thinks you should have to. You don’t.. have to handle this on your own Dean, no one can.
Dean: Sam if you bring up dads death one more time I swear-
Sam: (trying to interrupt) Stop- please- Dean, it’s killing you. Please..... We’ve already lost dad. We’ve lost mom. I’ve lost Jessica. And now I’m gonna lose you too?
Dean: We better get outta here before the cops come. (Sam, pleading look) I hear you, ok? Yah-I’m being an a**, and I’m sorry. But right now we got a friggan zombie runnin around we need to figure out how to kill it. (Sam laughs) Right?
Sam: Our lives are weird, man..
Dean: You tellin’ me.. Come on.

Dean: We can’t just waste it with a head-shot?
Sam: Dude, you’ve been watchin way too many Romero flicks.

Dean: Neil! It’s your grief counselors. We’ve.. come to hug.

Sam: (Dean takes out gun) Silver bullets?
Dean: Yeah, enough to make her rattle like a change purse.

Dean: (looking at a locked basement, making fun of Sam) This is where he keeps his porn.

Sam: You think angela’s goin after somebody.
Dean: (walks over to open vent) Nah, I think she went out to rent ‘Beaches’.
Sam: Look smartass, she might kill someone. We gotta find her Dean.
Dean: Yeah.. Alright, she uh, she clipped Matt because he was cheating right?
Sam: Yeah.
Dean: Well.. it takes two ta... you know.. have hardcore sex. (Sam gives him this head shake.. like ‘your point is’?) I donno, it just seemed that-uh.. Angela’s roommate was.. broken up over Matt’s death.. I mean like, really.. broken up.

Dean: Damn, that dead chick can run.

Dean: (to Neil) You know, I've heard of people doing some pretty desperate things to get laid but you, you take the cake.

Neil: You're crazy.
Dean: Your girlfriend's past her expiration date and we're crazy? When someone’s gone, they should stay gone. You don’t mess with that kinda stuff.

Dean: (quietly to Neil) Listen to me. Get outta here as soon as you can. But most of all, be cool. No sudden movements. Don’t. Make her mad.

(Sam pulls a gun on Angela)
Angela: Wait! It’s not what you think. I didn’t ask to be brought back. But it’s still me. I’m still a person. Please. (Sam shoots her in the head)

Dean: (after stabbing Angela in the heart with a silver rod) What’s dead, should stay dead.

Sam: You know, the whole fake ritual thing, luring Angela into the cemetery.. pretty sharp.
Dean: Thanks.
Sam: But did we have to use me as bait?
Dean: I figured you were more her type, you know. She had pretty crappy taste in guys.
Sam: I think she broke my hand.
Dean: Heh, you're just too fragile. We'll get it looked at later.

(Dean pulls the car off the road, gets out, sits on the front)
Sam: (joining Dean outside) Dean, what is it?
Dean: I’m sorry.
Sam: You-.. for what?
Dean: The way I’ve been acting. (Sam sits beside Dean).. And for dad. He was your dad too. And it’s my fault that he’s gone.
Sam: What are you talkin’ about?
Dean: I know you’ve been thinkin’ it, so have I. Doesn’t take a genius to figure it out. Back at the hospital, a full recovery... it was a miracle. And then five minutes later, dad’s dead and the colt’s gone.
Sam: Dean-
Dean: You can't tell me there’s not a connection there. Ionno how the demon was involved.. I donno how the whole thing went down exactly, but dad’s dead because of me, an-.. and that much I do know.
Sam: We don’t know that. Not for sure.
Dean: Sam. You, and dad.. you’re the most important people in my life. And now.. I never shoulda come back Sam, it wasn’t natural. And now look what’s come of it. I was dead. And I shoulda stayed dead. You wanted to know how I was feeling. Well that’s it. So tell me. What could you possibly say to make that alright?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:14 pm


Ok... this ep.... right now. BEST episode EVER! Well... for your Dean angst.. I mean come on!!!! The end was so great! You really get why Dean acted the way he did... how he felt.. he feels like he is the zombie.. that he shouldn't be here cause he was technically dead. It was a miracle that he survived and now here he is and his dad is the one that's gone...

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:38 pm


An interview I saw on TV.com... thought it was quite humorous.. enjoy!

Supernatural's Creator Shares More Season 2 Secrets

TVGuide.com: Loving the show this season. It seems like you are keeping with more of a steady story line, rather than with standalone episodes.

Eric Kripke: We're actually going to be doing a little bit of everything. We're still planning on doing more of what we did the second half of last season, where we sort of caught our stride and figured out what the hell we were doing. It’s a mix of standalones with ongoing mythology. Right now, coming off of the dad's death, there are such major emotional story lines to play that it will be emotionally continuous. In terms of the mythology and hunting down the demon and what the demon's plans are as far as Sam [goes], those are things we'll be touching on every three or four episodes. But there is a lot to play with the boys and how they are so wildly dysfunctional and dealing with their dad's death in the most unhealthy way possible.

TVGuide.com: They were more physical about their emotions in last Thursday's episode.

Kripke: I am so proud of that episode. When we first started working on this story line, the first image that popped in my head was, "I can't wait to see angry Dean." In "Bloodlust" we really see him unleash his fury. From the pilot, what was always so great about Dean was that he shows up and he's a little dangerous and a little unpredictable and you don't quite know what he's capable of. We always liked that, but we got away from it a little bit, because the more you learn about the guy, the more you understand him. [We're] trying to return a little danger to the character. You still love him, but every so often he just does something that you are like, "Whoa, that guys hard-core." We're not interested in him hand-wringing or dressing in black and listening to Morrissey. If the character acts hard-core now and then... I mean, hell, they do it with Jack Bauer. Why can't we do it with Dean?

TVGuide.com: I'm so glad to see the car back.

Kripke: No one needed to worry about the car. Coming off the season finale, hilariously, some people were concerned about whether the Winchesters survived and everybody was concerned about whether the car survived. I'm a bigger fan of that car than anybody. I'd never let anything happen to it, not really, not forever.

TVGuide.com: The people may not be safe....

Kripke: But if anything, that car is going to outlive us all. I just love that car. It was always the plan that after an acceptable amount of time for Dean to rebuild it that it would come back bigger, stronger, faster, and it did.

TVGuide.com: A lot of fans are upset that John is dead. But since this is Supernatural, we see him again in some form?

Kripke: In some form or another. No one stays dead on Supernatural. For now he's dead — we couldn't have made it more clear with them burning his body — and for a lot of reasons he needs to stay dead because the boys need to deal with the issues that come out of it. For the show it is good drama because they are alone and scared and outgunned, and the odds are stacked against them. This is not the last we've heard from John Winchester, but for now he's gone.

TVGuide.com: Am I right in guessing that the whispered words between Dean and John were about Sam and the others like him?

Kripke: Yes.

TVGuide.com: Will we ever find out what those words are?

Kripke: Yes! I'm rewriting that script [now]. It comes out mid-season. We don’t even leave that hanging until the end of the year.

TVGuide.com: Are you happy with how your show is doing, considering that you are up against a lot of big shows?

Kripke: Um... I'm happy, but I wish I was happier. We're hanging in there, and that's a testament to the fans. Under extreme competition from the No. 1 [Grey's Anatomy] and 2 [CSI] shows on television, we're sticking in there with comparative numbers to what we had last year. And that's in a much more brutal time slot and on a new network with not nearly the level of marketing that we had last year. All things considered, we're doing well. For the show to be the six-/seven-year player that I want it to be, we need to do better. We need to say to the fans and to the converted, "Spread the word." People catch on by word-of-mouth, so the best thing I could ask from the fans, as a personal favor to me, is to tell people about it.

TVGuide.com: Besides, they can TiVo those other shows.

Kripke: They can always TiVo Grey's Anatomy. All they are going to do on that show is have sex in a hospital.

TVGuide.com: And CSI is just about another dead person.
Kripke: Right. What do you want? Forensic fingernails, sex in a hospital, or good ol' red-blooded, classic-rock demon fighting?

TVGuide.com: Are Ellen, Jo and Ash recurring characters?

Kripke: Yeah. We're excited about fleshing out the world of the show. We've always thought this was such an interesting universe of hunters who live just beneath the surface of America. We started expanding that world and bringing characters in, which we started to do last season with Bobby.

TVGuide.com: What good, creepy creatures do you have up your sleeve this season? The clown was terrifying.

Kripke: [This week] we're doing Pet Cemetery-style zombies, and in Episode 9 we're doing a big 28 Days Later sort of town overrun by zombies, which is really, really fun because we've got our own unique twist on it. We've got more demons of course, and we're bringing back the shape-shifter from "Skin." Every so often we figure out a way to do a philosophical episode. We had "Faith" last year, about who deserves to live and who deserves to die. We have an episode coming up where the boys are hunting something of supernatural origin, but then come to believe that it may or may not be an angel. They have to decide whether they are supposed to hunt it or let it be. Sam thinks it might be an angel and Dean, who doesn't believe in those sorts of things, says "absolutely not." I'm excited about that one. I like to do a classy episode about Dean — he believes in evil, but does he believe in good?

TVGuide.com: Do you have a stockpile of urban legends?

Kripke: If you came to the writers' room, we've got a whole board. "Unnecessary surgery," different monsters and spirits, the urban legend called "The Licked Hand," and all sorts of creepy words that signify a potential episode that one of these days we'll get around to. This year we get into the Robert Johnson legend, selling your soul to the devil at the crossroads, into the lost colony of Roanoke, into H.H. Homes, the serial killer from Devil in the White City, America's first serial killer and his spirit.... Not only do we get to delve into urban legends, but we're starting to get into American history and classic folklore. At the end of the day, damn it, I want this show taught in schools.

TVGuide.com: With a warning for the faint of heart.

Kripke: Right. Watch out for the hand getting ground up in the disposal, but otherwise it is very educational.

TVGuide.com: Speaking of the scenes that make me cover my eyes, how do you know when to pull away from the action?

Kripke: When the lawyers make us. [Chuckles] We have no interest in making a splatter film, we're always trying to search for a way to do it elegantly, but the fact is that what you don't see is worse than what you do. It is just scarier. What we care about is being as scary as possible, that having been said, when it is time to see something, we try not to shy away from it. I can only think of one occasion when the lawyers said absolutely not. I'm kind of amazed at what we do get away with. Last year in "Home," when they put the hand in the disposal, we had this shot where it was the bottom pipe of the disposal where you saw all the blood and goo coming out. We were like, "Never in a million years are they going to let us use this shot," and we put it in as a joke, and no one ever said anything.

TVGuide.com: How are you coping with Jared Padalecki's injury and working that into the story?

Kripke: Ah, Jared. We're making it work. Luckily, he gets in fights every episode so it is easy for him to break his hand. It turns out the zombie breaks his hand. I'm glad he's OK, and I'm glad it all worked out, but I do have to say there is a part of me that wished he broke his hand a little earlier because it would have made so much more sense to come out of the car crash with the broken arm. He survived getting T-boned by a semi going full speed, but a zombie broke his hand? We do what we always do — we made a joke out of it and we had Dean give a funny reaction. Not once does it get in the way of the story.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:24 am


*happy dance*

YAY!! Thankyou so much for the quotes.... *sigh*
And thankyou SO MUCH MORE for the Interview!!!! smile

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Kripke: ...I'm glad he's OK, and I'm glad it all worked out, but I do have to say there is a part of me that wished he broke his hand a little earlier because it would have made so much more sense to come out of the car crash with the broken arm. He survived getting T-boned by a semi going full speed, but a zombie broke his hand?...

*teehehe* Yes... Jared should have broken his hand earlier! *tsk, tsk, tsk* rofl

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:33 pm


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*teehehe* Yes... Jared should have broken his hand earlier! *tsk, tsk, tsk* rofl


LOL! I KNOW!! I mean how inconsiderate is that?! *can't wait for next week... * YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:56 am


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*teehehe* Yes... Jared should have broken his hand earlier! *tsk, tsk, tsk* rofl


LOL! I KNOW!! I mean how inconsiderate is that?! *can't wait for next week... * YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!


*grins* Cos they totally had to have had Dean all, "Dude! I can't believe you broke your hand!" And Sam all, "YOU were the one who wanted to use me as BAIT!" *angry look in Dean's direction*
*imagines scene in Impala, Sam nursing casted-hand, driving from Hospital*

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:33 pm


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*grins* Cos they totally had to have had Dean all, "Dude! I can't believe you broke your hand!" And Sam all, "YOU were the one who wanted to use me as BAIT!" *angry look in Dean's direction*
*imagines scene in Impala, Sam nursing casted-hand, driving from Hospital*


OOOoo... yes... *joins in in the wonderful delusion*

You know..... Dean guilt is the best kind of guilt there is.. 3nodding
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:09 pm


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*grins* Cos they totally had to have had Dean all, "Dude! I can't believe you broke your hand!" And Sam all, "YOU were the one who wanted to use me as BAIT!" *angry look in Dean's direction*
*imagines scene in Impala, Sam nursing casted-hand, driving from Hospital*


OOOoo... yes... *joins in in the wonderful delusion*

You know..... Dean guilt is the best kind of guilt there is.. 3nodding


Yeah.... *just finished watching new ep*
I'm so sad they didn't mention his hand... At ALL! *pouts*
*wanted to see Gulity!Dean*

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:33 pm


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Yeah.... *just finished watching new ep*
I'm so sad they didn't mention his hand... At ALL! *pouts*
*wanted to see Gulity!Dean*


lol.. yah.. I wanted to see sommadat too.... ah well. I actually thought they did a good job keeping Sam active/inactive enough that I almost forgot he HAD a cast on... sweatdrop
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