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Aiko_589

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:18 pm


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people complain that english dubbing is never a perfect translation, or even ltieral. well let me debunk that


~WHO ARE YOU, TO QUESTION SOMEBODY WHO GETS PAID TO TRANSLATE IT, KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT IF YOU RELY ON SUBTITLES.

this is essentially why i made the killing wasei eigo myth thread:

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people say that japanese is being taken over by katakana


~UNLESS YOU LIVE IN JAPAN ,SPEAK FLUENT JAPANESE OR CAN READ IT FASTER THAN ENGLISH, PLEASE KEEP TO YOUR SLEF.

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i only like japanese girls! im going to go to japan and live there when i grow up because of anime and manga


~WITHT HAT ADDITUDE, NO WOMEN IS GOING TO MARRY YOU, ESPECIALLY NOT A JAPANESE ONE
~JAPANS NOT A FANATASY ANIME LAND, ONE YOU START LVINIG THERE AND SEE THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK TO MAKE A LIVING YOU LL GET BORED

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kanji are esstentially chinese/ no word May start with N or little tsu


~NO ONE HAS BEEN LISTENING TO ME.


got any annoying things that japanophiles say you know is just stupid? post it here and i may debunk it.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:39 pm


I know a few lame people that just want to move to Japan for anime/manga... That's so dumb. No one there is going to appreciate someone who just moved there because of cartoons and comics.

I mean, yes, I watch anime occasionally, and I like manga more... but I'm not obsessed. I'm interested in Japan and Japanese for the culture, I like the language, etc. Not because of anime and manga. stare Most of those people who only like Japan/Japanese for anime/manga end up making themselves look like fools in the end.

It also annoys me when I pronounce something correctly in Japanese, then some anime freak Japanophile comes along and yells at me for not saying something "correctly", when indeed I did say it properly. Of course, they only know their useless anime words, and obvious words like "baka" and "kawaii".

I say don't try to speak Japanese or any other language unless you're actually planning on learning to speak it well... I can't stand when people run up to me and start saying "omg that's so KAWAII!!!" *sigh*

胸糞が悪い...

SuzuWuzu


che_hyun

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:55 pm


I seriously hate it when I wear a bracelet with an anime character on it and these dorks come up to me and be like. "O-M-G (they actually say the letters) THAT'S KII-YO RIGHT? I LOVE HIM! WHO'S YOUR FAVE CHARACTER? I LIKE YUKI BETTER!", and they pronounce Kyo like Kii-yo. burning_eyes
Or when they're like "I like to draw anime. I can draw him pretty good." And they hold up this picture that looks like a five-year-old did it.
And all those 'How-to-draw-manga books that are like...Ever seen that Kappa Mikey show? Total stereotyped anime that is so ugly, it's not even funny.
What a wonderful topic. I love to rant.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:18 pm


I hate Japanophiles with a passion. A lot of them have the delusion that Japan loves anime when it is really a hobby you shouldn't be screaming about down the streets there. People will think you are extremely childish, it is no different from still watching cartoons for small children in the United States.

I know what you mean about the fans that whine about translations! I hate them. Most of them do not even know real Japanese, they only know the stupid fan terms like "kakkoi" and "kawaii" and wouldn't even be interested in learning real Japanese. Unless you fluently understand Japanese, you have no right to complain about not only translations, but they also need to shut up about how much better Japanese voice actors are and how they can portray "more emotion". How the hell would they know without understanding it? That is why they are so critical of English. I do not understand why anime fans who are not Japanese glorify Japan so much, nobody in Japan will care how "loyal" you think you are, especially not if it is because of anime. If you like anime but are not interested in Japan, then leave it as a hobby and do not bring Japan into it without true interest in the culture.

I even had an anime fan argue with me once about katakana. I was not letting some little anime fan who probably doesn't even know much beginner Japanese tell me how to speak it, but they insisted that katakana is meant to be read in Japanese. Yeah, Naoko Takeuchi really wants people running around calling her manga "SE-RA MUUUN!" and Akira Toriyama really wanted Dragonball to be "Doragonbo-ru". Don't speak about anything unless you know what you're talking about. I really hate the anime fans that think they know everything about Japanese. And learning Japanese for the sole purpose of watching raw anime? That's plain stupid, the language can be put to much better use.

And for Pete's sake, don't move to Japan because of anime and manga. That's like somebody from Germany moving to America for Disney cartoons. Living in Japan is like living anywhere else, and if you want to live there you'd better learn to appreciate the culture beyond anime and manga. There's a lot more interesting things to do and see than watching anime, something you can just do at home.

Don't get me wrong, I love anime and manga. I draw manga. But I hate Japanophiles that know nothing about Japan beyond anime and manga, yet obsess with Japanese culture and pretend they know everything about it, just because of a form of entertainment. How dumb. [/end rant]

Ouiaboo


Aiko_589

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:32 pm


Kyuriko
Yeah, Naoko Takeuchi really wants people running around calling her manga "SE-RA MUUUN!"


it is called セーラームーン 

No one knows english. its written that way

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I was not letting some little anime fan who probably doesn't even know much beginner Japanese tell me how to speak it, but they insisted that katakana is meant to be read in Japanese.
 

You mean pronouncing whats written in katakana in japanese? yes it is. because if you say an obvious english word thats been borrowed in ENGLISH, People will say what a show off or that sounds dumb.

unless i dont get what you mean. because we suck at pronouncing english, and most thing like sailor moon (see raa muun) are in katakana(or english with katakana).

im not exactly sure what you mean.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:35 pm


Aiko_589
Kyuriko
Yeah, Naoko Takeuchi really wants people running around calling her manga "SE-RA MUUUN!"


it is called セーラームーン 

No one knows english. its written that way

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I was not letting some little anime fan who probably doesn't even know much beginner Japanese tell me how to speak it, but they insisted that katakana is meant to be read in Japanese.
 

You mean pronouncing whats written in katakana in japanese? yes it is. because if you say an obvious english word thats been borrowed in ENGLISH, People will say what a show off or that sounds dumb.

unless i dont get what you mean. because we suck at pronouncing english, and most thing like sailor moon (see raa muun) are in katakana(or english with katakana).

im not exactly sure what you mean.

Yes, understandable due to pronunciation. But it's worse when people who know English type it like that to look cool, because there are lots of translations on even Japanese merchandise that says "Sailor Moon".

That's basically what I was saying though, you got it: it's dumb to show off and use katakana pronunciations if you actually know English and it's a word meant to be in English.

Ouiaboo


Aiko_589

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:37 pm


Kyuriko
Aiko_589
Kyuriko
Yeah, Naoko Takeuchi really wants people running around calling her manga "SE-RA MUUUN!"


it is called セーラームーン 

No one knows english. its written that way

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I was not letting some little anime fan who probably doesn't even know much beginner Japanese tell me how to speak it, but they insisted that katakana is meant to be read in Japanese.
 

You mean pronouncing whats written in katakana in japanese? yes it is. because if you say an obvious english word thats been borrowed in ENGLISH, People will say what a show off or that sounds dumb.

unless i dont get what you mean. because we suck at pronouncing english, and most thing like sailor moon (see raa muun) are in katakana(or english with katakana).

im not exactly sure what you mean.


Yes, understandable due to pronunciation. But it's worse when people who know English type it like that to look cool, because there are lots of translations on even Japanese merchandise that says "Sailor Moon".

That's basically what I was saying though, you got it: it's dumb to show off and use katakana pronunciations if you actually know English and it's a word meant to be in English.

ahhh, you mean she was saying you HAVE to use katakana? thats really dumb. japanese would be messed up eith out english (we are taught the english alphabet to pronounce letters differently, and the names are said different to)
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:48 pm


Yeah, she kept saying that even when the official homepage had English spellings for the names [it was a discussion of Fullmetal Alchemist and the character names, but a lot of people use spellings like that for katakana anime titles too].

Really? I didn't realize that English was very important in the Japanese language, I only think of it whenever there are borrowed words.

Ouiaboo


missgothiclolita

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:48 pm


stpid japanophiles i cant stand them i love the japanese culture i watch very few anime and i read only a few manga that i like. i absolutely hate naruto i hate it with a passion and i hate the anime club at my school becuase its full of loosers who think anime is the best thing ever and thats how japan really is
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:55 pm


Kyuriko
I hate Japanophiles with a passion. A lot of them have the delusion that Japan loves anime when it is really a hobby you shouldn't be screaming about down the streets there. People will think you are extremely childish, it is no different from still watching cartoons for small children in the United States.

I know what you mean about the fans that whine about translations! I hate them. Most of them do not even know real Japanese, they only know the stupid fan terms like "kakkoi" and "kawaii" and wouldn't even be interested in learning real Japanese. Unless you fluently understand Japanese, you have no right to complain about not only translations, but they also need to shut up about how much better Japanese voice actors are and how they can portray "more emotion". How the hell would they know without understanding it? That is why they are so critical of English. I do not understand why anime fans who are not Japanese glorify Japan so much, nobody in Japan will care how "loyal" you think you are, especially not if it is because of anime. If you like anime but are not interested in Japan, then leave it as a hobby and do not bring Japan into it without true interest in the culture.

I even had an anime fan argue with me once about katakana. I was not letting some little anime fan who probably doesn't even know much beginner Japanese tell me how to speak it, but they insisted that katakana is meant to be read in Japanese. Yeah, Naoko Takeuchi really wants people running around calling her manga "SE-RA MUUUN!" and Akira Toriyama really wanted Dragonball to be "Doragonbo-ru". Don't speak about anything unless you know what you're talking about. I really hate the anime fans that think they know everything about Japanese. And learning Japanese for the sole purpose of watching raw anime? That's plain stupid, the language can be put to much better use.

And for Pete's sake, don't move to Japan because of anime and manga. That's like somebody from Germany moving to America for Disney cartoons. Living in Japan is like living anywhere else, and if you want to live there you'd better learn to appreciate the culture beyond anime and manga. There's a lot more interesting things to do and see than watching anime, something you can just do at home.

Don't get me wrong, I love anime and manga. I draw manga. But I hate Japanophiles that know nothing about Japan beyond anime and manga, yet obsess with Japanese culture and pretend they know everything about it, just because of a form of entertainment. How dumb. [/font][/end rant]


My thoughts exactly. 3nodding

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:27 pm


FINALLY!!! crying I can express!

In my Civics class my friend, CASEY (she failed French and totally lied saying she got a 92% when I saw her work and I gave her the answers, she could barely talk, she was horrible and her plays eek kill me! 10 minutes long with mumblings of them trying to remember lines and words... sad I died listening to it. And she annoys me because she's a snob but she isn't that smart. Japanophile!)

Anyways, she and this group of people like anime. Now, don't get me wrong, I love it, but I haven't bought any since August 18th, I have too much to do (school, work, clubs, yearbook, Japanese review) that I can't buy any. But with what I have, I watch and review kanji because it's easier for me.

Anyways, she came to school and in our CAF period she said I know how to write "tree spirit" in Japanese. And then she wrote 木. My Japanese is not the best but I know that that means "tree, wood" not tree spirit. I told her this and she said I was wrong. I said no I'm not, first of all this is from Naruto I can bet (they're obsessed with it). Anyways, she said it can mean that and I said "With a few more kanji it is that!"

Then she says her favourite name is: "SAKURA" and she spells it in Katakana. No problem there, Kanji, Hiragana, Katakana it's a name. But HOW she wrote it made we want to scream. She wrote it, and I'm sure of it cuz my best friend loves Naruto and so the little video's she asked me to put on her profile let me see it. And the pink haired girl, Sakura, her head thing said something but it said sakura in scribbled, hand-written katakana. But I noticed Casey wrote it the SAME way... and I wanted to say, there is no EXAGERATED squiggle of the "ra" it's a line and then a line with a curve (you know what I mean though). So I thought... otaku.

My other friend and I HAD retarded fight. we're better but she said things that made me KNOW she is a japanophile.

Anyways... I think most of us here wanted to learn Japanese and was introduced by anime at some point. Me it was Inuyasha BUT I liked the songs, bought the CDs, then I bought J-Pop and I couldn't read the lyrics and I started learning it, then I bought a book on Japan, grew intertested, and now I'd like to see what it's about. That's why I am learning Japanese, because it's fun and I can use it if I go to Japan.


But it does annoy me when people use anime as an excuse and say they know Japanese... it's sad sad
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:03 pm


^^I agree. I like anime and manga, and I'll admit that I'm obsessed with only a few series (some which are not popular and unknown.) But I'm not that obsessed like those who proudly call themselves "OTAKU" when it refers to an obsession. I'll repeat what I said earlier, "I like anime for entertainment purposes." I am serious about learning Japanese and tend to study, while offline. Learning words such as 可愛い and かっこい won't help to survive in Japan. It's best to have an interest in not only the language, but the culture beyond anime/manga. The only problem I'm facing right now is what kind of career should I receive if I'm going to work and live in Japan.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:14 pm


Izumi Ako-chan
^^I agree. I like anime and manga, and I'll admit that I'm obsessed with only a few series (some which are not popular and unknown.) But I'm not that obsessed like those who proudly call themselves "OTAKU" when it refers to an obsession. I'll repeat what I said earlier, "I like anime for entertainment purposes." I am serious about learning Japanese and tend to study, while offline. Learning words such as 可愛い and かっこい won't help to survive in Japan. It's best to have an interest in not only the language, but the culture beyond anime/manga. The only problem I'm facing right now is what kind of career should I receive if I'm going to work and live in Japan.

Same! I forgot that but one thing I don't want to be called is an OTAKU. sad I learned it's REALLY bad and it's worse than nerd. And apparently this guy in Japan killed 4 young girls and so they called him OTAKU and so being an otaku is really bad.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:15 pm


Mikagi-sama
Izumi Ako-chan
^^I agree. I like anime and manga, and I'll admit that I'm obsessed with only a few series (some which are not popular and unknown.) But I'm not that obsessed like those who proudly call themselves "OTAKU" when it refers to an obsession. I'll repeat what I said earlier, "I like anime for entertainment purposes." I am serious about learning Japanese and tend to study, while offline. Learning words such as 可愛い and かっこい won't help to survive in Japan. It's best to have an interest in not only the language, but the culture beyond anime/manga. The only problem I'm facing right now is what kind of career should I receive if I'm going to work and live in Japan.

Same! I forgot that but one thing I don't want to be called is an OTAKU. sad I learned it's REALLY bad and it's worse than nerd. And apparently this guy in Japan killed 4 young girls and so they called him OTAKU and so being an otaku is really bad.
 

Becuase it also means ***** too.

Aiko_589


missgothiclolita

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:27 pm


Aiko_589
Mikagi-sama
Izumi Ako-chan
^^I agree. I like anime and manga, and I'll admit that I'm obsessed with only a few series (some which are not popular and unknown.) But I'm not that obsessed like those who proudly call themselves "OTAKU" when it refers to an obsession. I'll repeat what I said earlier, "I like anime for entertainment purposes." I am serious about learning Japanese and tend to study, while offline. Learning words such as 可愛い and かっこい won't help to survive in Japan. It's best to have an interest in not only the language, but the culture beyond anime/manga. The only problem I'm facing right now is what kind of career should I receive if I'm going to work and live in Japan.

Same! I forgot that but one thing I don't want to be called is an OTAKU. sad I learned it's REALLY bad and it's worse than nerd. And apparently this guy in Japan killed 4 young girls and so they called him OTAKU and so being an otaku is really bad.
 

Becuase it also means ***** too.

woo i didnt know that
doesn it also mean honorable house or your home?
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