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Eamane

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:06 am


Quest ver2.0!

Su has evolved into Adahy, the Uktena!


Welcome to my Fa'e Quest. I've been lurking around the Fa'e thread, and even posting sometimes since a bit before Anen was re-born. I first noticed the community when I stumbled upon the breedables forum over two years ago. At that time I was repulsed at the idea of humanoid pets, of course since then I've come to realize they aren't pets but children. I was mostly persauded to begin my lurking after seeing the adorable art in David and Syrenrei's sigs when both their Fa'e were babies and toddlers but it was the first writing contest that really caught my attention and I've been working on Su ever since.

Reasons For Wanting a Fa'e Child:

Well to make a long story short I've been lurking and wanting to join the ranks of Fa'e gaurdians for about two years now. I adore the art but more than anything I love the people. Those that frequent the thread are all kind and friendly, not to mention some of the best writers i've ever met. I'd give just about anything to be a bigger part of that community.


Second Gen/Not Lost Child Fa'e Information
Lost Child Information
Same for both
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:50 am


[.::.Directory.::.]

1. Intro
2. Directory
3. Disclaimer
4. Legend
5. Sources
6. About Adahy
7. The Guardian
8. The Lost Children
9. Art
10. Other Cherokee Figures
11. Quest Ideas



Eamane


Eamane

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:51 am


[.::.Important Disclaimer.::.]


Although I do have a native background only a small portion of it is Cherokee, all information used here is knowledge given to me by someone who is qualified to do so. In saying that it also means that such things about certain ceremonies are priveledged information and I have not earned the right to be told, nor to tell others if I did earn it.

So any speculations I do make are completely based off of fact but they will not be explored in depth at the risk of offending/ crossing important boundries.

Before I get asked about this I might as well add that although I refuse to write about tabboo information in an inappropriate way, it doesn't mean I will be ignoring culture things entirely. An example would be if Adahy ever built a sweat lodge. I could describe what a sweat lodge is, what it looks like but I could not write about the actual assembly of the lodge. The same can be said of ceremonies. It could be written that there were songs and prayers to the creator but the words would have to be left out.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:52 am


[.::. The Legend.::.]


Walks Tall smiled down at the bright eyed youngsters gathered at his feet and clasped his weathered hands together in his lap. "Gather children and I shall tell you of the Sun and her daughter. A mothers love and a mothers anger against The People. And the People who risked her wrath." He eyes narrowed with a wry mirth, the wrinkles lost in the patterns already carved into his ancient face. "The foolish People who risked her wrath" And then he began in his dry, dusty voice, made gruff from use and age.

"Every day before woman Sun would travel through the sky she would stop at her daughters house and eat a meal. After her meal, Sun's daughter would unlock the door to the sky and let her mother in to the world. Sun would often speak of The People with anger, how they would look at her with squinting eyes and then look at the Moon with eyes opened wide at his beauty. She was jealous of Moon and The People so she sent a fever to kill the people."

Walks Tall swallowed and worked his almost toothless gums as the children and now some young men and women waited, holding their breaths though they all knew the old tale.

"The People became very sick and whole villages succumbed to the awful fever sent by Sun. The Chiefs became desperate and asked the Little Men for help. They begged them to do something to save the People. The Little Men listened and then told the chiefs that they would have to kill the Sun. They made some medicine that turned two of the People into snakes, Adder and Copperhead."


"The Little Men sent the warrior-snakes to the house of the Sun's daughter and told them to lay in wait for Sun to arrive for her meal and then bite her."

"But when Sun arrived her light blinded Adder as he rose up to strike her and all he cold do was spit yellow slime just as he does to this day when he tries to bite. Copperhead became dicouraged and left without trying to do anything."

"The heat and fever continued, and more people died. Again the People went to the Little Men for help. This time the spirits made medicine to turn to men into Uktena, the water monster and rattlesake."

"Everyone believed that the fierce-looking Uktena would surely kill the Sun but Rattlesnake was so eager that he raced ahead and coiled himself beside the door of the daughter's house. When she opened the door Rattlesnake rose up and bit her leg. The daughter fell down dead. In his excitement Rattlesnake did not wait for Sun to arrive and ran back to the People. Uktena returned also, disgusted with Rattlesnakes stupidity."


The ancient native paused and let his people contemplate this as he cleared his dry throat once more, the wrinkles that traced their way across his face forced into greater relief as the sun set and the fire cast its shadow upon his serious face.

Eamane


Eamane

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:54 am


[.::.Sources.::.]


James Mooney- Myths of the Cherokee written in 1897

http://www.ewebtribe.com/NACulture/articles/Uktena/ - the info is taken directly from James Mooney's book, I have a copy and I have checked ^-^

http://www.powersource.com/cocinc/articles/tlanuhwa.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horned_Serpent
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:55 am


[.::. About Adahy .::.]


Name: Adahy (Ah-da-hay)
Meaning: Lives in the Forest
Gender: Male
Sexuality: straight


Appearance:
Height: 6'5''
Build: Well built with defined muscles, there is nothing delicate about him.
Face: Very severe features. High cheek bones, a hawk like nose, full lips. He also has a snake like tongue and fangs that fold up when his mouth is closed
Eyes: very wide and slightly almond shaped. Golden amber in colour with a verticle pupil (snake eyes)
Skin: his skin is a dusty red brown, but most of it is not visible as he is covered in shiny scales in forest tones- browns and greens. He has a bare patch on his forhead, between his eyes where the jewel once sat
Oher Characteristics: A large, dark brown horn grows from his head (either his forhead or the very top), feathered wings (?)
Markings: spots down the left side of his body in a forest green, the seventh from his head is over his heart
Hair: none...or long, green, straight hair that grows like seaweed


Personality: (i'm a believer in nurture over nature to an extent hence the different profiles on the circumstances)
Su is a person driven by routine and having grown up in relative isolation it has become an obsession. If her routine is interrupted when she first arrives in Gaia or even on her ‘home’ world she can become very bad tempered and sulky. As she spends more time in the ever changing Gaian world she adapts to be more flexible but routine is still the most comfortable for her so she often seems to be in a grumpy mood. If you catch her on a good day though, her child like happiness shines through. Another legacy of her isolated upbringing is an incredible innocence and ignorance. She becomes frustrated easily when she tries to learn and often gives up without making any real effort. Su’s biggest weakness is that she refuses to admit that she has any. She is a perfectionist which is why she gets so frustrated with learning and if it comes down to a fight she will stand rather than run though it is likely she will lose being so fragile. Su can be easily manipulated if someone realizes this, everything the girl does is to prove that she is strong and all someone has to do is challenge her.


Likes: water, the dark, playing hide and seek, magic

Dislikes: birds, really bright lights, bubbly people, heavy metal music

Fears: being surprised/startled

Favorites:
Food: raw meat
Drink: cherry soda
Music: stomp dance songs

Weaknesses: superiority complex (because he just so much better at everything than everybody!),

Hobbies/interests: hunting, carving (badly)

Talents: dancing and singing, hiding, storytelling


Powers:
Hypnotize- not really, but his stare can petrify something so he can catch it.

Healing- Mild healing powers regained once he gets back his diamond

Venom- Adahy's bite is poisonous

Little Snakes- If Adahy's venom hits someone it turns into a small snake. More of a parlor trick than anything as the snakes are not venomous. He can supply the whole world with pets though ^-^

Snake tongue- Adahy can speak to snakes

Adahy also has the ability to travel to the ghost world through a portal in his traditional home lake.

How do the powers and your character relate back to your mythos?
A daughter of the sun one would believe would take on many of her mother's characteristics. Su's dependency on routine relates to her former life, every day the same, watching the sun travel steadily through the sky, stopping to eat lunch with her mother and then watching the sun disappear for another day. The only time this was different is when she was killed, she may not remember the events but the discomfort of change has stayed with her.

A remainder of her former life, Su is very much attuned with birds. The sun and birds have often been linked in native lore and so it is inevitable that Su should feel some link anyways. As a Fa'e that is characterized by her powers. Later in her life Su develops a desire to learn about her former life and reaches out to native medicine to do so as it is an aspect of her native life.

Eamane


Eamane

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:56 am


[.::.The Guardian.::.]

I have two different guardians depending on the circumstances that Dotsuwa is reborn should that ever occur.

Name: Eamane Telquessar
Race: Elf
Age: 200
Gender: Female
Occupation: Agent
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Name: Grandfather Oak
Race: tree spirit
Age: old...no one would cut him down to count the rings
Gender: both, appears masculine
Occupation: being a tree, taking care of Little Bird
Oak is a tree, an oak tree to be exact. He is charged with protecting Oceim and the pixies that make it their home. When Su fell from the sky he adopted her and gave her the name Little Bird. He had the pixies care for her and when the time came he began to communicate with the child through her thoughts. He found the girl to be intelligent and lively and the two soon developed a deep bond. Su does not call Oak father but grandfather in a term of deep respect.
Oak is extremely wise and patient. He tends to speak rarely and when he does it is often to give advice, usually in a round about fashion or through a story. He is normally rather standoffish but is extremely loving and gentle towards his young charge. He is protective by nature and would do anything to make sure the world he cares for stays safe which is why he agrees to follows Airi to Gaia.
When he takes on a humanoid form to accompany Little Bird to Gaia Oak stands quite a bit taller than average at about 6'7''. His skin is a deep brown and has the texture of bark. His hair and long beard are made of thin branches that change colour or lose leaves depending on the season. His bright green eyes are small and almond shaped.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:57 am


[.::. The Lost World .::.]


Oceim is a small planet that is about 80% covered in water. There is a single large land mass. The land has a variety or terrains much like earth. It is inhabited by a small species of pixie that is no taller than 25 cm. The region where Little Bird lives is located between two mountain ranges. The valley is carpeted in lush green grasses. Oak’s tree is located in the middle of the small valley near a large lake.

Eamane


Eamane

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:59 am


[.::. Art .::.]


I need arts!!!
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:00 am


[.::.Other Cherokee Figures.::.]


One of the reasons I chose a Cherokee myth was its differences from the myths surrounding Yani

Trickster- Unlike may aboriginal people, the Cherokee look at Rabbit as the trickster not Coyote

Nunne'hi- The little people, very much like European fairies

Tsusgina'i - the ghost country

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[.::.] Cultural Snippets [.::.]

Gender:The majority of native tribes differentiate linguistically between sex and gender. Traditionally for someone to hold a feminine gender role and a sexually masculine role was perfectly acceptable. During the process of colonialization the gender terms aside from boy and girl fell into disuse or if not misuse, becoming insults. Slowly native tribes are reclaiming these gender roles and most have come to recognize 7 gender terms. Manly hearted woman is a Blackfoot term that would be equivalent to a warrior woman in Cherokee society. She would have been considered special as a child and because of the way she was raised she would be more outspoken than a normal girl.

The Number 7- sacred because it represents the 7 directions (north, east, south, west, up, down, and in the centre/the self.)

Eamane


Eamane

PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:38 pm


[.::.Quest Ideas.::.]


At some point I would like to have Adahy retrieve his diamond back. He wouldn't be reborn with it as it is still supposably in existance
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:53 am


there...i think thats everything. critiques if you have them please?

Eamane


Arrien
Crew
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:16 pm


Hm... a couple things that definitely need to be cleared up before approval can be made.

1.) Fa'e already has a bird Native American/"Tribal" Fa'e, Taima. This Fa'e also has feathers on her arms and golden/amber eyes, and even a very similar skin tone. You may need to alter your character design so as to distinguish Dotsuwa from Taima. Also, be careful about all the glowy bits as well. Vashtya's completed quest is for the Russian Firebird, and a lot of those traits are specifically going to be used for her Suraj.

2.) There needs to be more elaboration on how the Sun's daughter exists in such a way to justify her coming back. Right now, the only "Fa'e"-ness that is in her myth is the fact that she turned into a bird after her death, and that's hard to even attribute entirely to her and not the mythos. A myth base needs to be special in and of itself in order to be reborn; otherwise, what we end up with is a character with a lot of tacked-on, indistinct abilities that don't easily define it as a Fa'e. I can see that you're leaning heavily on the bird concept in terms of her appearance, so clarify that in your retelling of the story. Make sure that you're very careful on this part, though. Some of your sources suggest that the only reason for the bird transformation was to get her back to the ghost world; you have to find a way to counter that in your retelling, or there isn't much reason for Airi to have her to be reborn as a Fa'e. Undead creatures like ghosts are not eligible to be reborn as Fa'e, and so if you are going to equate her bird-form with her being a ghost or spirit (which is what I got out of the myth, honestly), you may be headed into territory where this myth might just not be appropriate for the Fa'e setup. I'd suggest that you try and find more sources on the bit about humanity "losing all hope of immortality" due to her escape, and see if that it something that can be better tied in.

3.) The "Open the Door" trait doesn't make sense with the sources you used for your myth. Where does this have an actual basis in myth? The Sun stopped by the daughter's house in order to join her for dinner; how does this translate into a responsibility as you're portraying it, integral to the Sun's workings in some manner, such that it may carry over into her second life? Keep in mind that there's a period in which the Sun's daughter has been dead, and that the Sun was able to continue on despite that- or else it didn't, and the Sun in the myth is differentiated from the sun that lights the world in some manner.

You've made enough comments about Yani in your quest to make it clear you know, there's some definite room for toe-stepping when you get into this kind of mythology. It seems like your quest character is probably distinct enough from that mythbase that you ought to be safe; however, dropping Jade a line just to make sure she approves of the shamanistic ability you did give Dotsuwa would be best, because it would really kind of suck if I gave you an approval sticker, and then she had to veto it anyway.



I think that's everything I caught on this pass. Once this has been addressed, you can post again for an approval. I'll be trying to work through the backlog and all that, but I'll try and take new requests first (since some of the backlog is REALLY backlogged), so it shouldn't take too long to get addressed!
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