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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 10:20 pm
We all chose our characters carefully (right?) for all kinds of reasons. Now is your time to justify share what the characters you chose mean to you and why they're God's gift to sequential art. Oh and be sure to tell us who created them too. I'll start:
Spider Jerusalem Created by: Warren Ellis
I initially heard about Transmetropolitan back in 1998 in my first copy of Wizard magazine. I was thirteen at the time and Wizard still had some journalistic integrity left. However, being said age I passed over Transmetropolitan and the brief write up given to it in favor of The Witchblade and Danger Girl. It happens to the best of us. Anyway, following my first Vertigo binge of Y: The Last Man and Sandman, I eagerly sought new series to sate my hunger. One was Lucifer, the other Transmetropolitan. I was quickly endeared to Transmetropolitan first because it was the funniest comic book I had ever read, second because Spider is such a great, unique character. By the time I finished "Year of the b*****d" I was sure that I wanted to be (and still am) a journalist in some form, even if it's just blogging. Which was why I initially picked Spider; to start blogging on Gaia with the manic zeal and profane hyperbole of the tattooed journalist himself. Of course I wasn't planning on having this account completely overshadow my main account, but there ya go.
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:55 am
Good question Spider!
She-Hulk/ Jennifer Walters
Created by: Stan Lee(writer) and John Buscema (artist)
Writers worth mentioning that helped enhance the character: John Bryne, Dan Slott and Roger Stern.
Okay I probably first heard of She-Hulk through the cartoons, watching them in the 80's as a kid. But my Dad and big sis where always buying comics and one day they came home with an issue of Sensational She-Hulk by John Bryne. Needless to say I was hooked on the big green female version of the Incredible Hulk. I inherited a few of the issues and I never thought anything else of it because I became addicted to X-Men and all my pocket money ended up going on them.
It was only till I began getting fed up of the continual buying of X-books and story lines that pissed me off till I went in search of my old fav's. I re-read my old issues of Sensational and kept them out for the pure amusement. Also went looking for more issues for the collection. (While trying to ignore the horror of Austen.)
Then as if a miracle She-Hulk got her own book again and I finally got something new to obsess about. I can relate to Jen because she's got a split personality like me. I can become a shy brunnette sometimes and other times I'll put on a wig and dress up and go out to party. True I don't turn green and I can't seem to break the forth wall but that doesn't stop me from trying.
She-Hulks fun, sassy and kicks a** while still being smart. Her earlier character in Savage She-Hulk might be a bit lacking but I still love all the She-Hulk issues I come across. Still trying to build up my comic collection though it's great role playing as such a fun character.
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 5:40 am
Name: Tad Ryerstad Creator: Chuck Dixon Writers worth mentioning: Chuck Dixon, Devin Grayson (grudgingly)
Tad's essentially the comic fanboy "come to life". He grew up reading them, uses them as his model for growing up. They are what inspired him to fight for JUSTICE. Tad doesn't have superpowers, isn't supremely smart, doesn't have all kinds of gadgets, just a sense of right and wrong, and is willing to enforce it. The only (supposed) problem is that Tad's a little psychotic, and believes that torture and killing is okay as long as it's a bad guy.
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:15 am
Name: Wally West
Creator: Depends on what version you're talking about.
Notable writers: Carey Bates, Carmine Infantino, Julius Schwartz, Bill Messner-Loeb, Mark Waid, Geoff Johns
I've said this before, but it bears mentioning again-I don't actually OWN any Flash comic books. Oh, sure I buy them-I've bought nearly all of them since 1990. However, every issue I buy is given to my brother, Vince.
When "The Flash" started airing on CBS, it was instantly my brother and my favorite show. The special effects were COOL, and it was just plain FUN to watch. I was already reading 'Power Pack' and my mother was a ferverent 'Fantastic Four' fan. My brother was attempting to read 'the Incredible Hulk' and was utterly lost. So, my mother bought him his first copy of 'The Flash.'
It was the middle of a story where Gorilla Grodd was taking over the minds of animals in Keystone City, and had the Flash, Piper, and Vixen chained as his pets. We both loved it.
As time went on, I collected other various titles, including the 90's run of 'Catwoman,' 'Venom: Lethal Protector' (groan), and various bizarre indy titles like 'the Adventures of Sock Monkey.' During it all, though, I continued collecting Flash comics for my brother, and the two of us both read them hungrily. Mark Waid was, we were convinced, the greatest writer ever, even if he had a tendancy to 'kill' the Flash off every 10 issues or so.
Right around the time I discovered Gaia, I was getting into buying TPBs instead of individual issues of comics that seemed to interest me. Thusly how, when I discovered Gaia's comic discussion forum, I was just finishing up with Neil Gaiman's 'Sandman' collection, inspiring me to remake my Giabrenna avatar into the Gaian visage of Death. (Smiling, adorable, gawth.)
I had a male avatar I was using for av edits when a mini-trend sprung up of naming avatars after our favorite superheros. The boards had a Jean-Paul, a Bruce_Wayne, and a Clark~Kent. At the same time, Kyle_Rayner and Wally_West popped up on the boards, and thus was formed the original Gaian Justice League.
So what makes the Flash so great to me? In a way, he's family. He represents my brother. Even though his girlfriend/wife is named Linda (which is my name), I have never had any notions of being in 'love' with Wally. He's a literary brother. It's one of the main reasons the Johns run has distressed me so-I care about what happens to Wally and how he feels because, in a way, he's family. The Flash has been one of the strongest connections between my brother and me for many years.
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:16 am
Spider_Jerusalem Of course I wasn't planning on having this account completely overshadow my main account, but there ya go. I think it's the synergy between your style and Spider's character that really makes him perfect for you. Having got to know you as Spider, I have trouble thinking of you as your 'main' personna. When I've got time to properly get back on Gaia (I've been picking at it like an unwanted shepard's pie for the last fortnight) then I could see me becoming As One with my Desolation Jones account. This thought scares me. Anyways.... Squirrel GirlCreator: Steve Ditko Notable writers: Dan Slott. There's something wonderful about a character as absurd as 'Squirrel Girl' coming from the same guy who gave us Spiderman and Shade. It's as if Jack Kirby had said, "Right, that's the Fantastic Four and the New Gods done. Now to create Flamingo Boy!" That I like. I also like that she's a mutant who's comfortably outside the X-mythos an the X-ish way of thinking about things. The presence of mutants in the MU makes marginally more sense when more of them make the life decisions that she's made. The two main reasons I picked her are firstly that She beat Doctor Doom!. I'm crazy fond of the notion that the little guys are ultimately more powerful than the big guys, since it's a notion that, when applied to politics, is called 'democracy', and I'm a big fan of that. Secondly... her presence and (probably brief) prominence in the MU is a great reminder of Everything That's Wrong About Comics And What Can Be Done To Put It Right. Dan BestNewWriterInAges Slott explains it best... Dan BestNewWriterInAges Slott When I was a kid, I couldn�t wait for my weekly comic book fix. I�d happily fork over my entire allowance (one shiny new quarter), for the chance to escape to the Marvel and DC universes�these worlds of pure, unadulterated FUN! They were filled with these amazing larger-than-life heroes�and I cared about all of �em. And I accepted them all at face value. Even when they were starring in those dopey Hostess ads. The ludicrousness of it all went right over my head�and all I cared about were these characters and their stories. I think as my generation of readers grew older, we remembered how serious the stories FELT to us as children, and we wanted that seriousness to be reflected in our comics�at the expense of all the silly elements that were so endemic to the experience. You reach this point in the 80�s and 90�s when groundbreaking titles like Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen come out, and everyone starts saying, �Yeah! That�s it! That�s how comics should be! Dark n� gritty! Grrr!� And all the writers start trying to ape Miller and Moore�desperately grasping for the zeitgeist and only scratching the surface. (Remember when they�d try to dark-n�-gritty-ize a character like The Rose from Spider-Man? They made him all buff, gave him a big gun, and called him The Blood Rose. And ruined a perfectly viable bad guy.) But when you take the time to look at Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen, really look at them�guess what? All those wonderfully loopy n� ludicrous elements are still there. And, hey, there�s tons of humor there too! All the imitators were trying SO hard to get the cool veneer and intensity of Rorschach and Miller�s Batman�that they�d over look the balance of Alfred�s deadpan humor or the over-the-top visuals of a 20 foot tall naked blue man. What I�m saying is, there�s no denying that as cool as those comics were�they were FUN too! I guess most of what I�ve been doing with books like She-Hulk, Spider-Man/Human Torch, and GLA has been a knee jerk reaction to that. This NEED for comics to be fun again. And maybe I�ve gone a little too far� : ) My comics politics are simple: I'm pro-humour, pro-ludicrous wild invention, pro-imagination and pro-fun. My favourite line in years has been in Morrison's JLA Classified where Supes says "Your no-nonsense solutions don't work in a world of time-travel and Killer Jet Apes". I'll take Killer Jet Apes over no-nonsense solutions any day, and Slott has Squirell Girl pick up on this in issue two of GLA: " I'm not crazy about superhero stories where everything's dark and moody. Personally, I like the ones where Good Guys fight Giant Apes on the Moon and stuff, remember those?" Even if she dies horribly in the next two issues, she's still a figure equally invested with pathos and absurdity who Slott's using to show us that there's nothing immature about fun. I picked her because I agree. MONKEY JOE SAYS : There's also her great suporting cast.
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:47 am
Edit: Yeah, this is mostly about me and what I think instead of why I think they are good characters, so my life bio is ahead!
I'm not going to state who originally created Robin/Nightwing, because that wasn't the version I came to enjoy.
It wasn't until I read what Chuck Dixon had done with the character until I decided that this was in a sense me.
Nightwing : The Early Years
I'm a gymnast for those that don't know, and I pretty much admire anyone with skill in the acrobatic world. Within the gymnastics community, the names of Parker, Wagner, and Grayson are often heard by some and actually understood by even fewer. Well, at the time I started reading Teen Titans (Robin) and I was interested in the character due to the rebellious nature of d**k to Bruce, something i'd been going through with my parents getting divorced and older brothers and sisters leaving for schools and whatnot.
d**k everntually proved to his mentor that he was stable mentally and physically, something i've done to my parents after a car wreck earlier in my life, and he went off to live the normal life. This was about the time I entered high school and was starting to undergo...changes... sweatdrop
Well, from the pictures i've posted here and other places that people might have seen, it's safe to say that i'm in shape and well off physically. At the time of my sophomore/junior year in school, I was close to looking like I do now, yet on the skinny side, so rather a tall pole with muscle stretched to bone...my life wasn't the normal one I wanted.
The same could be said for d**k, no matter how he tried to get away from things, it was always there in the back of his mind that he could be better. It was then that I started working out longer than scheduled practice times, started to be more social, and in essence, less like the character i've admired for the past six years.
I'll avoid a few years in the life of Nightwing and myself to cut this down and stop rambling...
Well, as I started college, and gaia, was around Outsiders caught my eye. This d**k being less of a hardass, letting Roy take the job, and more of the behind the figure head...much like Bruce and the JLA I might add. And once again, I wanted to be something that I really couldn't acheive in life, yet could come close, and I recognized the truth in what the comic world held in my reality. No longer confused about who I am, I had a mentor...and he's a comic character.
Oh, and i've even recreated a few of the stunts seen done...and injuries resulted from.
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 5:16 pm
Doreen_Green I think it's the synergy between your style and Spider's character that really makes him perfect for you. Having got to know you as Spider, I have trouble thinking of you as your 'main' personna. Well the more I've used this account and read the comic, the more I just act like me, and the more I read of Transmetropolitan, the more I seem to get into his world view. It's starting to seem to me like Spider has an almost hate the sin, love the sinner outlook on life as he practically assaults people and does incredibly generous things in the same breath. How many times has he stated that he hates children? How many times has he gone out of his way to help impoverished children or stopped to teach them something with a frighteningly grandfatherly approach? What keeps him from being just a cartoon is the depth of the character and how I can look out my own window and ask how it applies to that mean ol' real world. Not many characters can do that well, and the only one I can think of off hand is John Constantine, who is likely floating around in Spider's "gene pool" along with Alan Moore, Hunter S. Thompson, and Timothy Leary. Quote: When I've got time to properly get back on Gaia (I've been picking at it like an unwanted shepard's pie for the last fortnight) then I could see me becoming As One with my Desolation Jones account. This thought scares me. Hah, you were right about Desolation Jones, it bloody rocks. Hilter porn, who else but Warren Ellis would think of that? Probably Garth Ennis and Mark Millar but the key difference between them is that Ellis can do lowbrow and make it look like highbrow to the point that I would call Desolation Jones "Le Carre on crack", which is good because Le Carre sober is about as dry as Tolkien. Ennis and Millar however make lowbrow seem even lower brow. Quote: My comics politics are simple: I'm pro-humour, pro-ludicrous wild invention, pro-imagination and pro-fun. My favourite line in years has been in Morrison's JLA Classified where Supes says "Your no-nonsense solutions don't work in a world of time-travel and Killer Jet Apes". I'll take Killer Jet Apes over no-nonsense solutions any day, and Slott has Squirell Girl pick up on this in issue two of GLA: " I'm not crazy about superhero stories where everything's dark and moody. Personally, I like the ones where Good Guys fight Giant Apes on the Moon and stuff, remember those?" Even if she dies horribly in the next two issues, she's still a figure equally invested with pathos and absurdity who Slott's using to show us that there's nothing immature about fun. I picked her because I agree. When I got into comics for the first time as mentioned above (for the first time I was able to walk in and not just look for a random Spiderman comic as children are wont to do), I was in a pretty dark place and mood, likely the same dark mood that Alan Moore holds responsible for the angsty days you mention above so clearly I wasn't looking for monkeys and rocket ships. Spawn gave way to The Witchblade and The Darkness as Jeff Scott Campbell never met a deadline he could keep (Danger Girl was meant to be the heir to Spawn, alas) which gave way to Fathom and my first foray into Vertigo. Then came my year long Daredevil binge cut with Sandman and random manga. So really monkeys and rocketships are still a very new concept for me when it comes to comics (I used to get my helpings of comedy and absurdity from those wacky Japanese) and you won't find me just lamely pointing to my issues of Shanna The She-Devil anymore either. I'm reading Arana, I s**t you not. I still dislike Avery because everything she does seems forced and Disneyfied (even the bloody Witchblade graphic novel she did gonk ), but I'll be damned if Arana isn't cute in a "hey this is what Ultimate Spiderman should be" sort of way.
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:22 am
Spider_Jerusalem Not many characters can do that well, and the only one I can think of off hand is John Constantine, who is likely floating around in Spider's "gene pool" I'm smiling really broadly right now because (If I recall) you've not read Planetary yet. Issue #7's very much about the relation between Spider and John... Spider_Jerusalem Hah, you were right about Desolation Jones, it bloody rocks. Hilter porn, who else but Warren Ellis would think of that? Probably Garth Ennis and Mark Millar but the key difference between them is that Ellis can do lowbrow and make it look like highbrow to the point that I would call Desolation Jones "Le Carre on crack", which is good because Le Carre sober is about as dry as Tolkien. Ennis and Millar however make lowbrow seem even lower brow. You've hit a particularly telling nail on the head there. I think a lot of it's about variation of tone - For example, I'm always struck by how Morrison will write about women being raped by cocks covered with razor blades, but then fill the same story with tiny little acts of kindness and heroism that saves it from being a misanthropic bit of world-hating. The world of Morrison's 'Mature Readers' books is a very Lemmony Snicket one - a terrible world in which it's possible to be wonderful person. Wheras Millar will follow rape with rape, further rape, jokes about rape, rape-murder, voyeuristic rape and perhaps a little light rape. The Ellis/Ennis difference is similar - they'll both give us page after page about s**t, piss and c**... but Ellis will juxtapose this (especially in Planetary) with a real sense of the world's beauty. Ennis would never have given Jones his Angels, or Spider his Mountain and his Community Reservations. He'd have just followed s**t, piss and c** with more s**t, piss and c**. MONKEY JOE SAYS: I know there's a relevant context, but is anyone else uncomfortable with her talking like this?
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:50 am
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:46 am
Ah, the forum equivalent of a beachtowel on a deckchair.
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:24 pm
I'd say it's more like making a reservation at a resturant.
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:31 pm
John Constantine I'd say it's more like making a reservation at a resturant. Or one of those seats on a train with a ticket sticking out of the top. MONKEY JOE SAYS : Or an area of the US given over to the original inhabitants. Oh no, wait a minute. It's nothing like that at all.
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:43 pm
Doreen_Green I'm smiling really broadly right now because (If I recall) you've not read Planetary yet. Isn't that the one that's connected to The Authority somehow?Quote: You've hit a particularly telling nail on the head there. I think a lot of it's about variation of tone - For example, I'm always struck by how Morrison will write about women being raped by cocks covered with razor blades, but then fill the same story with tiny little acts of kindness and heroism that saves it from being a misanthropic bit of world-hating. The world of Morrison's 'Mature Readers' books is a very Lemmony Snicket one - a terrible world in which it's possible to be wonderful person. Wheras Millar will follow rape with rape, further rape, jokes about rape, rape-murder, voyeuristic rape and perhaps a little light rape. You referenced Lemony Snicket! ROCK ON. I've only read the first book in the series, but yeah it is something like that. I love the back covers of the books and how he tells you not to read it.
Quote: The Ellis/Ennis difference is similar - they'll both give us page after page about s**t, piss and c**... but Ellis will juxtapose this (especially in Planetary) with a real sense of the world's beauty.
The first Hellblazer comic I ever saw was the Son of Man trade. It nearly killed the comic for me forever. Ellis has the decency to tell rather than show when appropriate. What's funny about Ellis' humor (the style of which I usually loathe) is that it's usually talked about and not actually seen, so it's left up to your imagination and yet it's usually literally unimaginable, there's no possible frame of reference for any of it. I absolutely hated Team America World Police for all the crude humor and I hear the uncut version is even worse. Probably the best way to explain it is that the bowel disruptor continues to be funny until I'm put through a page long visual of someone shitting themselves unconsious, which I hope I never am and doubt I ever will.
Quote: Ennis would never have given Jones his Angels, or Spider his Mountain and his Community Reservations. He'd have just followed s**t, piss and c** with more s**t, piss and c**.
True, but he came up with a few good ideas on his Punisher run that made the movie watchable and actually decent.
Quote: MONKEY JOE SAYS: I know there's a relevant context, but is anyone else uncomfortable with her talking like this?
Well I am a fan of Foamy, so I'm used to this sort of thing by now. blaugh
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:42 pm
Nova, the Human Rocket
Created by: Marv Wolfman
Notable creators: Marv Wolfman, Carmine Infantino, Fabian Nieceza, Erik Larsen
I discovered Nova around 1990/1991. I picked up New Warriors #8 for the heck of it, and enjoyed the book. Three months later when #11 came out, I check it out again. It was an alternate universe story in which Egyptian Empire ruled the world for a great length of history. The story followed Nova in this world, where he was the only white person in the Avengers. Nova struggled with questions of race and discrimation, and trying to figure out his place in the world. I really identified with him, and I ended up buying New Warriors from then on. Nova quickly became one of my favorite characters of all time. My first job was as an aide at a daycare center. I would draw pictures of Nova for the kids, even though most of them didn't really care. I bought Nova's solo series and enjoyed them both.
When my friend Geddicus introduced me to Gaia and I found out about the Justice League and Avengers in the CD Forum, I immediately thought of Nova and Richard Rider. I became an honorary Avenger and when Kapow was formed, I was the second person invited.
Richard Rider and I share one thing: a mistaken first impression. Most people look at Rich and think he's a dumb jock. Most people look at me and think I'm some big, black thug. Rich is a true hero, a man who's fought a war for a planet he had no personal stake in, a man who fought foes far more powerful than him and triumphed. I'm not a thug, in fact I'm probably the most sensitive and honest guys you'll ever meet. I chose Rich because he deserves to walk shoulder to shoulder with every other great Marvel hero. He deserves a lot more respect from the fans and the creators. I champion his cause, and in doing so, I champion my own. I deserve to not be labelled be my race or my height or my build.
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:46 am
Name: Cassandra Sandsmark Notable Writers: Peter David and D Curtis Johnson (from Young Justice) Greg Rucca ( Wonder Woman), and Geoff Johns (Teen Titans)
When I first got into comics I was a big fan of sidekicks and I loved the New Teen Titans. Later on I found out that Wonder Woman had recruited a new Wonder Girl , Cassie. I really didn't get much into Cassie until Young Justice came out. I loved this series. Cassie struck out to me because out of all of them she struck me as being the most normal. I mean Arrowette was forced into being a hero by her mom, Superboy was a Superman clone, Secret's a living dead girl, Impulse is a mini-Flash on crack, and Robin's this uber teen detective , and let's face it no one who works for Batman can be called normal. Cassie wasn't born with her powers in fact when she was first Wondergirl she 'borrowed' the Sandals of Hermes & the Gauntlet of Atlas from Wonder Woman, which imbued her with super-powers. Cassie didn't become Wonder girl because she had to but she wanted to. She then later met Zeus and asked him for powers of her own. Cassie's not easily intimidated even by gods. She later on joined Young Justice and even ended up being leader of the team. Unlike other leaders it wasn't because she found the team or simply one day declared herself leader, she was voted by the fans. Yay for Democracy! blaugh Many times Cassie has been the voice for Young Justice to the the public even when Robin was the leader. Besides her boldness Cassie acts like a kid (just look at room). Her bedroom is usually depicted as messy with posters on the wall . In Young Justice she would often like to have sleep overs with her friends, gossip with Cissie, and her helping Raven pick out clothes in Teen Titans was pretty cool. Not to mention for a long time she had a major crush on Superboy and acted a little goofy just like a teenage girl would. Cassie's not always so confident in herself though she has doubts espeacially since Donna died. Cassie cares alot about her friends and family and is always willing to give someone ahug just when they need one most ( like she did for Tim after his dad died). Cassie's not like Diana or Donna. Diana was made from clay, Donna is Diana's mirror image, Cassie is fleash and blood. Both Wonder Woman and Troia have often been seen as tall, well-endowed women. Cassie's not. She's about 5'5 and about average weight, and average cup size ( as long as Liefield's not drawing her stare ). In otherwords Cassie's a great character because she's normal girl with extraordinary abilities trying to find her place in the world. And that's the way I like her.
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