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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:38 pm
Okay, bear with me here, but I have a vision of doing a wiki style learning Japanese thing. People knowledgable about Nihongo can post little mini lessons about certain topics, people not so knowledgable can post questions, and, I keep a master list of the topics in the second post. Now, don't post something that's already been written about. So if someone's covered greetings, don't do all the same greetings in a new post. However if you have something to contribute, you can post it.
Maybe there will be more areas, but for now I'm thinking everything can fall under vocabulary or grammer. It would be good to write at the top of the post what catagory it falls under. Maybe also label if it's a beginner, intermediate, or advanced topic.
Some things to think about arrow If you want to type in kana, type in romaji as well. arrow Don't make huge a** posts, Preview and make sure you don't have to hit "Page Down" like 5 times. arrow Be nice if someone makes a mistake!
Let the Fun begin!
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:40 pm
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:41 pm
i'll post first, just to give people an idea Greetings and Leave-taking arrow beginner - vocab
Ohayoo gozaimasu : good morning Ohayoo : good morning (less formal) Konnichiwa : good afternoon Konbanwa : good evening Sumimasen : excuse me (good for getting a strangers attention)
Shitsurei shimasu : goodbye (excuse me, good to teachers or general people above you) Ja mata, dewa mata : see you later ja, ja ne: later (very informal, friends only) Sayounara : goodbye (don't say unless you don't expect to see the person for a while) Oyasuminasai : goodnight
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 3:08 pm
A friend directed me to this thread earlier. It may help. It's pretty basic.
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 6:18 am
Ok I have heaps of questions but I can only think of one at the moment. stressed
Everyone knows the 'san' suffix at the end of names for politeness like Mr or Miss (even though san is also said after first names) but I have been told there are heaps of ones that people might use but the only other ones I have found are: ****chan - a term of endearment ****kun - for children
What are some more and how are they used?
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:00 am
Name Suffix arrow beginner; vocab, culture
Japanese almost always attach a kind of suffix to names, but you have to be careful to used the right one! (Anyone whose been to Japan, please feel free to tell me when you've heard each suffix)
-san: the most common suffix, average politeness. I say when in doubt go with san, it'll will be acceptable for 95% of the people you meet. chan: kind of like calling someone names Katherine "Kathy" or Thomas "Tommy" just a term of affection. It's okay for both boys and girls that are younger than you or are your friends.(probably girls more so than boys) kun: this generally used for young men, though people who want to tease a tomboyish girl would call her "kun" sama: very polite, and probably rarely used in conversaton, though it's polite to put sama on letters. dono: also very polite, I think I heard someone say this is only used in writing form sensei: a term of respect for someone who is a master at what they do. Teachers and doctors are sensei. This also work by itself (which just saying san or chan doesn't) senpai (sempai) in a school enviroment, this is someone whose your upperclassmen. kouhai lowerclassman, though I've been taught so far that a senpai would address their kouhai as "san" and not "____-kouhai"
Note: you never use suffix with yourself, like if someone's asks whose calling, you wouldn' say "Brown-san."
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:31 am
I was thinking about the different uses of 'I' as in 'Watashi', 'Ore', 'Boku', etc. and when to use them.
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:36 pm
VOCAB
some basic vocab for the beginning Japanese Student (as i learned it) are:
Enpitsu えんぴつ Pencil Kyoshitsu 教室 Classroom Sensei 先生 Teacher Chizu 地図 Map Hata はた Flag Tenjou 天井 Ceiling (is that spelled right?) Yuka ゆか Floor
that's it for now... i'll be back with the rest.
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:47 pm
In Nihongo i could never figure out what order to put words in. Like where the verb, nouns, etccetera go into a sentence. Could you please help with that?
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:50 pm
Just to let you know, the stuff that was posted here helped me. Oh, and how do you say "Love ya!" In Japanese? OH, and would there be a nickname for Mai or Oki ?
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:52 pm
Wolven_shani In Nihongo i could never figure out what order to put words in. Like where the verb, nouns, etccetera go into a sentence. Could you please help with that? Yeah, I don't know about that either... sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:19 pm
Basic Sentance structure arrow beginner, grammer
The very basic English sentance is Subject-verb-Object (I drink Coffee, She eats carrots)
The basic Japanese sentance is Subject-object-verb. Verbs are always at the end of Japanese sentances the exception is emphasis markers like yo, ne, wa, ga, or the question marker ka.
watashi wa koohii o nomimasu
watashi=I wa=subject marker koohii= coffee o=direct object marker nomimasu=non-past, polite form of "nomu", to drink
Perhaps I'll post more example later. I always say Yoda from Starwars talks in a Japanese way, he put his verbs at the end of his sentances.
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:27 am
sorrie.... i really have problem remembering how to trpe the words.... it kind of confusing.
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:08 pm
More Basic Sentance Structure as written by eleraama
In English, we tend to use Subject- Verb- Object order, like in 'Sally eats the apple'. But in Japanese, it's a bit different: Subject- object-verb: Sally the apple eats. (Saarii wa ringo wo taberu).
Of course, you can mix it up a tiny bit but remember that the verb ALWAYS comes at the end. ALWAYS. AL. WAYS. (Particles, of course, don't count)
To mark various parts of speech, you use 'particles': little "words" (not really) that don't mean anything but tell you who is doing what. Like: Wa (written as hiragana ha) = topic marker ga = subject marker wo (pronounced 'o' in standard Tokyo dialect) = object marker ni = setting marker (time and place) as well as a destination he = a goal or destination
those are all the ones I can think of now...
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:09 am
i have a few vocab questions if its not to much. How would you say why and your welcome?
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