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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:17 am


I'm doing this really well-paid commission for PA of her and Hazy, and it was going well until I had to redraw her legs, at which point I realized they are jacked the ******** up, and I have absolutely no idea exactly why they are so jacked up, or how to fix it. Her entire lower half is less sexy and feminine than i think it should be, please help me out! I'd really appreciate a draw-over or some really in-depth instructions on what I've done wrong, here.

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(Maroon background is temporary to show wing translucency.)

Also, this is supposed to be in the style of the Gaia Online illustrations - what can I do to better mimic that look?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:05 pm


I think it looks a lot like the style used on Gaia. One thing you could do is add more detail with the shading. All the Gaia illustrations I've seen are all about that. Lots of details and lots of colors. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't (Moira's hips scare the crap out of me in her shopkeeper image). The hair looks good, though. If you didn't add more shading, I don't think it would detract from the image. Adding more might if you do it in a way that's distracting (why Moira whyyyyy).

As far as technical stuff goes... One of her hands (on the viewer's right) is smaller than the other, and the area around her elbow/where her arm bends (viewer's left) doesn't have any indication of a skin fold. I assume there would be one.

I think repositioning the legs might help since people have a tendency to lean on one leg when standing. Her back leg isn't straight, so I don't imagine that it's supporting a whole lot of weight. If she's putting her weight on her front foot, I don't think it would be pulled in so far. It's certainly not impossible to stand that way, but it's not very natural, either.

To make her look more feminine/sexy you could give her slightly wider or rounder hips. You could even make her legs a little bit longer. I think you could probably get away with that without it looking weird if you wanted.

Here's a picture that might explain what I mean. I don't normally do draw-overs so I have NO idea how helpful this is...
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The leg shape is a bit blah, but the pose is mostly what I was getting at. Hopefully SOME of what I said was useful or made sense!

Also, if you need pictures of sexy legs, check out Kylie Minogue.

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Captain

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:26 pm


Ah, thank you so much! I completely forgot about the fold in her elbow redface Thanks for your help with the legs, sometimes I have these really incongruous problems with stuff like that. I'll get right on it. :]
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:05 pm


Just seems like her crotch is too big to me.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:28 am


I think that the pelvis is too tall and not enough wide. Also the hands appear to be different sizes?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:58 am


have you thought about switching the order of her legs? that is putting the one that is behind in front?

I just noticed that both the leg and arm on the same side of her body are both crossed over the other, and something about that looks weird.


i think if you want to make her look sleeker sexier, avoid lines like one's at her wrist's which make the skin look pudgier and less well, sleek. If you want to insist on the effect of defining a fold in her skin, do so subtley with some shading.



As for the gaia style...one thing i noticed is that although the shading is mostly cel, saka does ever now and then soften a shadow here and there. (see vanessa). she also seems to define more shapes on the body with shading than lines...which actually looks like what you're doing here.

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Captain

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:26 pm


Page Boy
have you thought about switching the order of her legs? that is putting the one that is behind in front?

I just noticed that both the leg and arm on the same side of her body are both crossed over the other, and something about that looks weird.


i think if you want to make her look sleeker sexier, avoid lines like one's at her wrist's which make the skin look pudgier and less well, sleek. If you want to insist on the effect of defining a fold in her skin, do so subtley with some shading.



As for the gaia style...one thing i noticed is that although the shading is mostly cel, saka does ever now and then soften a shadow here and there. (see vanessa). she also seems to define more shapes on the body with shading than lines...which actually looks like what you're doing here.


Oh? Thanks. o_o; I didn't notice all that stuff. I appreciate it very much.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:27 am


I like it, but the head and eyes seem a bit large...

Also, the middle finger on her left hand looks unnatural.
But I definately look forward to seeing the finished piece :3

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Crew

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:49 am


hot. this looks pretty gaia-y. the only thing i can add is to maybe lose the crease on the middle finger of the left hand, and the neck is a little long/thin.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:40 pm


I think you're right-on for matching the Gaia comic style. It looks really good! n__n

The only thing that really bothered me, though, is her horns. I think her hair should be going around the horns, if that makes sense -- the way the hair is drawn now just makes it look like the horns are sitting on top of her hair, and not her head.
I wasn't sure if you were planning on fixing that or not.

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Captain

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:28 am


toadstars
I think you're right-on for matching the Gaia comic style. It looks really good! n__n

The only thing that really bothered me, though, is her horns. I think her hair should be going around the horns, if that makes sense -- the way the hair is drawn now just makes it look like the horns are sitting on top of her hair, and not her head.
I wasn't sure if you were planning on fixing that or not.

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Ahaha, yeah, those are temp horns. Placeholders.
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