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 Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:52 pm
I dont really consider them villians. They are fighting for the same thing that the X-Men are fighting for (for the most part). Sure they fight for it differently but that shouldnt really qualify them as a villian.
Discuss your opinion.
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:24 pm
also depends on wich member your talking about...
but yea i agree for the most part....
except the Ultimate beotherhood...
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:38 pm
They are villains. Their goals are noble, but they go about them in horrible ways.
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:40 pm
gen_gen_gen They are villains. Their goals are noble, but they go about them in horrible ways. Hence the reason I put "(For the most part)"
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:41 pm
The Brother Hood of Evil Mutants and The X-Men Are Not Fighting For The Same Thing. The X-Men Are Fighting For Mutant Equality. While The Brother Hood of Evil Mutants Fight For Mutiant Supremicy... Even Then The Methods The Brother Hood Uses To Reach Its Means Are In No Way Herioc... They Don't Want Justice For Everyone, They Don't Want To Preserve All Live And In The End Their Intentions Are Not Noble, But Self Driven For Thier Own Personal Gain... The Brother Hood of Evil Mutaints... If Not For Magneto Being Incharge Would Just Be Just Another Evil Mutant Team Doing What Ever They Please, Instead of Tereristic Activities Against Man Kind...
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:48 pm
DestineChaos The Brother Hood of Evil Mutants and The X-Men Are Not Fighting For The Same Thing. The X-Men Are Fighting For Mutant Equality. While The Brother Hood of Evil Mutants Fight For Mutiant Supremicy... Even Then The Methods The Brother Hood Uses To Reach Its Means Are In No Way Herioc... They Don't Want Justice For Everyone, They Don't Want To Preserve All Live And In The End Their Intentions Are Not Noble, But Self Driven For Thier Own Personal Gain... The Brother Hood of Evil Mutaints... If Not For Magneto Being Incharge Would Just Be Just Another Evil Mutant Team Doing What Ever They Please, Instead of Tereristic Activities Against Man Kind... Beyonder disgrees during the screte wars thing he parre Magneto with the heros.
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:04 pm
El_Caballote316 DestineChaos The Brother Hood of Evil Mutants and The X-Men Are Not Fighting For The Same Thing. The X-Men Are Fighting For Mutant Equality. While The Brother Hood of Evil Mutants Fight For Mutiant Supremicy... Even Then The Methods The Brother Hood Uses To Reach Its Means Are In No Way Herioc... They Don't Want Justice For Everyone, They Don't Want To Preserve All Live And In The End Their Intentions Are Not Noble, But Self Driven For Thier Own Personal Gain... The Brother Hood of Evil Mutaints... If Not For Magneto Being Incharge Would Just Be Just Another Evil Mutant Team Doing What Ever They Please, Instead of Tereristic Activities Against Man Kind... Beyonder disgrees during the screte wars thing he parre Magneto with the heros. So Because The Beyonder Sees Magneto As A Force Of Good, We Should Over Look All The Evils The Brother Hood of Evil Has Done For Mutant Supremicy? stare You Do Know The Secret Wars Comic Series Was A Gimic Marvel Came Up With To Launch A Line Of Action Figures Of Thier More Popular Heros And Villians, Right?...
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:57 pm
DestineChaos El_Caballote316 DestineChaos The Brother Hood of Evil Mutants and The X-Men Are Not Fighting For The Same Thing. The X-Men Are Fighting For Mutant Equality. While The Brother Hood of Evil Mutants Fight For Mutiant Supremicy... Even Then The Methods The Brother Hood Uses To Reach Its Means Are In No Way Herioc... They Don't Want Justice For Everyone, They Don't Want To Preserve All Live And In The End Their Intentions Are Not Noble, But Self Driven For Thier Own Personal Gain... The Brother Hood of Evil Mutaints... If Not For Magneto Being Incharge Would Just Be Just Another Evil Mutant Team Doing What Ever They Please, Instead of Tereristic Activities Against Man Kind... Beyonder disgrees during the screte wars thing he parre Magneto with the heros. So Because The Beyonder Sees Magneto As A Force Of Good, We Should Over Look All The Evils The Brother Hood of Evil Has Done For Mutant Supremicy? stare You Do Know The Secret Wars Comic Series Was A Gimic Marvel Came Up With To Launch A Line Of Action Figures Of Thier More Popular Heros And Villians, Right?... Still count as continuty .Beside Magnito always has the best interes of his people...no diferent from america..or any country..for that matter
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:00 pm
Secret Wars may have been created as a gimmick to sell toys, but it was still ******** and absolutely canon.
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:57 am
El_Caballote316 DestineChaos So Because The Beyonder Sees Magneto As A Force Of Good, We Should Over Look All The Evils The Brother Hood of Evil Has Done For Mutant Supremicy? stare You Do Know The Secret Wars Comic Series Was A Gimic Marvel Came Up With To Launch A Line Of Action Figures Of Thier More Popular Heros And Villians, Right?... Still count as continuty .Beside Magnito always has the best interes of his people...no diferent from america..or any country..for that matter So Since Magnito Being For Mutiant Suprimacy Makes Him A Good Guy, The KKK For White Suprimacy Is A Good Thing And Hitler Was A Good Guy For Supremicy Of The German People? Because Both Have The Same Ideals As Magneto... That Thier Kind Is Supirior So They Should Control Or Anihalate Everyone Else... Besides If Magneto Had The Best Interests Of Mutiants In Mind... He Wouldn't Be Working With A Group Of Villians (Juggernat, Toad, Pyro, Mystique and everyone else who's ever been a part of The Brother Hood of Evil) Which In My Mind Isn't The Best PR Move Ever... Seceond Magneto Wouldn't Continue To Give Mutaints A Bad Name By Giveing Non-Mutanits A Reason To Fear Them Aswell As Think Of Them Being A Menice Through His Terroristic Acts Against Humanity...
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:59 am
gen_gen_gen Secret Wars may have been created as a gimmick to sell toys, but it was still ******** and absolutely canon. Well I can't argue with that... >.> Thought How Claw Tricked Dr. Doom Into Bringing The "Heors" Back Was A Bit Weak... Made Their Death meaningless... -shrugs-
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:07 am
How did it make their death meaningless? They declared their determination to fight, knowing full well it could kill them, and it did. They had no idea they would be brought BACK. it was still bloody heroic.
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:26 am
DestineChaos El_Caballote316 DestineChaos So Because The Beyonder Sees Magneto As A Force Of Good, We Should Over Look All The Evils The Brother Hood of Evil Has Done For Mutant Supremicy? stare You Do Know The Secret Wars Comic Series Was A Gimic Marvel Came Up With To Launch A Line Of Action Figures Of Thier More Popular Heros And Villians, Right?... Still count as continuty .Beside Magnito always has the best interes of his people...no diferent from america..or any country..for that matter So Since Magnito Being For Mutiant Suprimacy Makes Him A Good Guy, The KKK For White Suprimacy Is A Good Thing And Hitler Was A Good Guy For Supremicy Of The German People? Because Both Have The Same Ideals As Magneto... That Thier Kind Is Supirior So They Should Control Or Anihalate Everyone Else... Besides If Magneto Had The Best Interests Of Mutiants In Mind... He Wouldn't Be Working With A Group Of Villians (Juggernat, Toad, Pyro, Mystique and everyone else who's ever been a part of The Brother Hood of Evil) Which In My Mind Isn't The Best PR Move Ever... Seceond Magneto Wouldn't Continue To Give Mutaints A Bad Name By Giveing Non-Mutanits A Reason To Fear Them Aswell As Think Of Them Being A Menice Through His Terroristic Acts Against Humanity... Yet you forget Humans arent exac;y friendly to Mutants.Heck Magneto know's fulll well how evil Human's are...he lived thre the holocaust.
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:39 pm
gen_gen_gen How did it make their death meaningless? They declared their determination to fight, knowing full well it could kill them, and it did. They had no idea they would be brought BACK. it was still bloody heroic. They Didn't die fighting knowing good in well that they could die... They died after Dr. Doom declaired the Secret Wars Over shortly after stealing the beyonders power... He Made Peace with both sides more or less, by letting the villians find thier way home (via unlocking molicule mans full potential) and with the Heros by well just being nice I guess... They died while Doom at his Head Quarters on the Beyonders World had a feeling of being threatened by them and without controle of his god like power smited them... They didn't die in a fight against anyone... they died kicking it back at thier own head quarters talking about what happened as Colossus Cryed over the death of Zsaji...
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:01 pm
El_Caballote316 Yet you forget Humans arent exac;y friendly to Mutants.Heck Magneto know's fulll well how evil Human's are...he lived thre the holocaust. He did live through the helocaust and has become the very thing he loaths because of it. He became the mutant embodyment of a nazi. arrow Perpetuating the hate that a select few has cast on to him for his race to projecting it onto every human by generalizing that they are all the same as a instinctual reaction to fear and turning that fear into predudice... arrow Also he thinks of mutants as gods among men. He thinks they are superior and deserve to be the ones calling the shots instead of it being mutant and humans togeather living peacfully... arrow I think the bulk of the hate being centered at mutaints is a direct result of Magneto "trying to help" mutaints. Kinda like Magnetos own personal self manifest destany. Where he feels people hate mutaints. He takes a group of mutaints that are already Villians to the world and have killed with out reguard to the ramifications it may have on anyone (human and mutaint alike). Use mindless agression to get what he want. Have his agression met with human retaliation. More people die by this group of Villians headed by Magneto and since society has a need to give evil a face and fight that evil. Magneto make himself that evil forming the generalisation that mutaints are evil being more counter productive to his own cause than anything else...
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