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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 9:32 am
idk if it works but i heard for a manaburn party you need: 5 BLM and a rdm OR brd
lol i dont know how it works but probably all 5 blm freeze?lol never heard of it before and i just heard about it yesterday
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 10:40 am
It works...It works alright...And gets more effective in the higher levels...And there's normally a BRD in there, actually. BRD goes pull, buffs the BLMs up, sleeps the mob, debuffs it, then the mages all start casting their most damaging spell overall/for that mob...You can pull 10k+ exp per hour with a manaburn.
And I somewhat dislike manaburns for a few reasons... 1) They take BLMs that may be around my level range when my party is looking for one. 2) They might be camping somewhere close to where my party may be camping and can go through the mobs faster then the normal parties sometimes depending on the levels and party setup for the normal parties.
That's about it...But overall, to answer your question again, it works.
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 6:01 pm
I dont do the over kill 5 blm set up
I go 3 blms tank puller and me the rdm. I works great if the pt know what their doing. ~8k an hour when i was killing robber crabs
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:26 pm
Moonlight Agony I dont do the over kill 5 blm set up I go 3 blms tank puller and me the rdm. I works great if the pt know what their doing. ~8k an hour when i was killing robber crabs Manaburn on crabs? Crabs have high resistance... why would anyone ever choose to fight those without Melee? Whatever. BTW, tank? We're talking about all mage. Best would be 4 BLM, 1 BRD, 1 RDM. All the BLM should sub SMN except maybe one for emergancy cures if it is ever needed. 7 MP/tick = very fast. I guess you could fit a NIN tank in there, but could he keep hate without a THF? Doubt it. PLDs and WARs ruin the point of a Manaburn: Killing the enemy before it can do damage to you.
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 12:22 am
yea this guy was asking me to do a manaburn pt but i dont know what it was.... when he invited me he said he saw a ton of blm our level but all of a sudden it dropped lol but man 10kexp an hour is a whole lot....... wished i had moldavite earring though... that help my freeze ability if we ever start a manaburn
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 1:42 pm
Fury, even melee aren't gonna be as good to a point with crabs but guess it's up to the party where they go to kill what.
Another thing about manaburns...Don't think AMs are used as much the higher you go. It's more about the faster spell casting, spell recasting, and resistance for the manaburns to work...But then again...I might be wrong on some parts @.@
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 4:28 pm
Loner of Life Fury, even melee aren't gonna be as good to a point with crabs but guess it's up to the party where they go to kill what.
Another thing about manaburns...Don't think AMs are used as much the higher you go. It's more about the faster spell casting, spell recasting, and resistance for the manaburns to work...But then again...I might be wrong on some parts @.@ Ive seen 1 RDM, 1 PLD, and 4 DRGs own snips. Anyway, you're absolutely correct on the AMs. Also they are totally MP useless... Even in SCs.
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 6:24 pm
Fury Angel Moonlight Agony I dont do the over kill 5 blm set up I go 3 blms tank puller and me the rdm. I works great if the pt know what their doing. ~8k an hour when i was killing robber crabs Manaburn on crabs? Crabs have high resistance... why would anyone ever choose to fight those without Melee? Whatever. BTW, tank? We're talking about all mage. Best would be 4 BLM, 1 BRD, 1 RDM. All the BLM should sub SMN except maybe one for emergancy cures if it is ever needed. 7 MP/tick = very fast. I guess you could fit a NIN tank in there, but could he keep hate without a THF? Doubt it. PLDs and WARs ruin the point of a Manaburn: Killing the enemy before it can do damage to you. i'm actually in a Manaburn Set it's BLM BLM BLM BLM BLM BRD With Crabs: I pull with Elegy, Sleep at camp, cast Ballad II, They cast Freeze, if mob's not dead for somereason, i sleep, cast Ballad I, they Blizzard II, and i cast Ballad I and II, then go out to Elegy Pull again i rake in about 10k-13k an hour, on Crabs, Rabbits, or whatever i'm pulling out in Cape Terrigan. and yes, Crabs do have a high Resist, but if you Threnody them, the Resist Rate Drops, and you get the full extent of the spell ^_^
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 6:38 pm
Bryann Fury Angel Moonlight Agony I dont do the over kill 5 blm set up I go 3 blms tank puller and me the rdm. I works great if the pt know what their doing. ~8k an hour when i was killing robber crabs Manaburn on crabs? Crabs have high resistance... why would anyone ever choose to fight those without Melee? Whatever. BTW, tank? We're talking about all mage. Best would be 4 BLM, 1 BRD, 1 RDM. All the BLM should sub SMN except maybe one for emergancy cures if it is ever needed. 7 MP/tick = very fast. I guess you could fit a NIN tank in there, but could he keep hate without a THF? Doubt it. PLDs and WARs ruin the point of a Manaburn: Killing the enemy before it can do damage to you. i'm actually in a Manaburn Set it's BLM BLM BLM BLM BLM BRD With Crabs: I pull with Elegy, Sleep at camp, cast Ballad II, They cast Freeze, if mob's not dead for somereason, i sleep, cast Ballad I, they Blizzard II, and i cast Ballad I and II, then go out to Elegy Pull again i rake in about 10k-13k an hour, on Crabs, Rabbits, or whatever i'm pulling out in Cape Terrigan. and yes, Crabs do have a high Resist, but if you Threnody them, the Resist Rate Drops, and you get the full extent of the spell ^_^ I'm sure there are better choices out there, but when I join manaburns, I just conform to whatever the rest of the PT wants. I don't dictate the PT unless I'm the leader.
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 6:42 pm
Fury Angel I'm sure there are better choices out there, but when I join manaburns, I just conform to whatever the rest of the PT wants. I don't dictate the PT unless I'm the leader. i don't know a thing about Elemental Weaknesses, i leave that to the BLMs >_> they tend to know more. i just pull and debuff according to their spell. ::conforms::
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 6:50 pm
Bryann Fury Angel I'm sure there are better choices out there, but when I join manaburns, I just conform to whatever the rest of the PT wants. I don't dictate the PT unless I'm the leader. i don't know a thing about Elemental Weaknesses, i leave that to the BLMs >_> they tend to know more. i just pull and debuff according to their spell. ::conforms:: You being a BRD, and I being a RDM, we do many similar things and have similar views on PTing. However, I warn you that many of the players are ignorant and just like to see things blow up. It wouldn't hurt to have a small guide on monsters and SC + MBs handy!
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 6:55 pm
Fury Angel Bryann Fury Angel I'm sure there are better choices out there, but when I join manaburns, I just conform to whatever the rest of the PT wants. I don't dictate the PT unless I'm the leader. i don't know a thing about Elemental Weaknesses, i leave that to the BLMs >_> they tend to know more. i just pull and debuff according to their spell. ::conforms:: You being a BRD, and I being a RDM, we do many similar things and have similar views on PTing. However, I warn you that many of the players are ignorant and just like to see things blow up. It wouldn't hurt to have a small guide on monsters and SC + MBs handy! haha, i know Asuran Fists + Fast Blade make something @_@ me and a Monk friend wound up making something on Demons during my Zvahl Coffer Run (30 minutes on the key, 7+ hours searching for a coffer)
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 7:21 pm
Bryann Fury Angel Bryann Fury Angel I'm sure there are better choices out there, but when I join manaburns, I just conform to whatever the rest of the PT wants. I don't dictate the PT unless I'm the leader. i don't know a thing about Elemental Weaknesses, i leave that to the BLMs >_> they tend to know more. i just pull and debuff according to their spell. ::conforms:: You being a BRD, and I being a RDM, we do many similar things and have similar views on PTing. However, I warn you that many of the players are ignorant and just like to see things blow up. It wouldn't hurt to have a small guide on monsters and SC + MBs handy! haha, i know Asuran Fists + Fast Blade make something @_@ me and a Monk friend wound up making something on Demons during my Zvahl Coffer Run (30 minutes on the key, 7+ hours searching for a coffer) D'oh! That's a long time! My AF hat was my longest and it took 2 hours to do. RDM 75/ NIN 37 friend Solod both mobs, never got hurt 1 HP.
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:18 pm
I'd love to join a manaburn PT with my rdm, but I have a hard enough time debuffing mobs with 4 other magic users in my PT. I dunno if I'd be able to handle pulling, debuffing, then casting refresh 6 times. I've noticed that a lot of rdms use refresh when "the mage needs an mp boost", but I get a cycle going at the start of the PT, so that every time refresh wares off of me, I know I have to cast it on the next person as soon as I can cast again. Of coarse I end up putting refresh on people who have full MP, but it keeps me from skipping people, and everyone constantly has it on.
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:01 pm
Sounds like a good plan,but me neing a PLD I wouldn't work very well with the party cry
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