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 Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:36 pm
Pro lifers and sporks. Both seem to be useless aside form mash potatoes. Ok to day I tried to eat with a spork at a Mexican food place not taco bell but Californa something or another. It pissed me off. Then when I came home after walking five miles and running three blocks I clicked the pro-life guild by mistake. Both were infuriating so I must rant about both. Warning: Reading Reggie_chan’s rant may cause up set stomach spontaneous miscarriages and diarrhea . Proceed with caution. 1.  I'd have to agree that abortion shouldn't be allowed in rape cases. Women may be psychologically damaged because of the rape, but it's proven that it becomes worse if they abort the child. Also, here's something that I'm not sure if it popped up yet, abortion is very painful to the aborted child, and the child gets NO morphine or painkillers. Talk about selfish women, kill their child and don't give it pain meds while they take pain medication all the time. And in stats, most abortions are done by regular women who consented into having sex than women who were raped. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Actually my emotion playing hair style stealing friend it is well known that not all woman feel damaged after abortion. www.Iamnotsorry.com I think is the name of the site. Also many woman in the pro-choice guild have had abortions and are not psychologically damaged. I think I heard some where that fetus absorb nurturance thru the blood stream which is how an infant can be addicted to crack or Meth . You would think the same process would allow pain killers to be absorbed. Apparently it is selfish not to want to go threw nine months of Torturer for something that was forced upon you.. So what if they consented to sex. Also a fetus is not a child. Woman >fetus. _____________________________________________________________________________________ I feel kinda bad saying this, but I really do sympathize with the people who bomb abortion clinics. I understand where they are coming from, they are trying to stop people from killing others. They view abortion clinics for what they are. I mean what if someone bombed a holocaust death camp, and everyone called them extremists because they tried to stop them from killing Jews, but in the process killed a few nazis. Also I've never been a fan of democracy and our system of government, as I really don't trust it. I really am willing to go outside of conventional norms to do what is right, even if that means breaking the law. As to whether or not I'd actually do anything violent, I'm leaning toward no, but I honestly question if I would should I get personally involved. I just find it really hard to denounce them, when I feel very similar to them. I find it hard to denounce someone who is killing a murderer, especially one they know is going to murder again. _____________________________________________________________ Ok you are pro-life but for killing people who are saving woman’s lives how does this work? Oh wait you’re a hypocrite that’s how. Ok aide from god wins law I would like to point out the Jews where not violating any ones bodily integrity. They where merely scapegoats. I suppose you would be more in favor of a theocracy. Here you useless spork is the definition of murder. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Murder&x=68&y=5 ____________________________________________________________ The only thing with stem cell research, is that they can try to justify it has helping others, though it has no proof of any kind of potential. My grandpa died of alzeimers, but he wouldnt have wanted embryo's destroyed for some cure. Any ways, there is another option. Sam Brownback has foun that you can get adult stem cells from cord blood, and the cells act more like adult cells, unlike the embryo cells that multiply without stop, hurting the patient. The only problem is, it takes a little bit of effort. This is murder, killing innocent biengs for some hope that a cure will be found. It's not worth it!  ______________________________________________________________________________ Look the embryo’s would not have become a fetus. It is not like abortion. You cant use aborted fetuses end of story. _________________________________________________________ Sporks are useless except for mashed potatoes. You cant use them in soup or that type like a spoon because they have the pointy parts which the fluid would drain out of. You cant stab things with them either.
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:10 pm
reggie _chan "I mean what if someone bombed a holocaust death camp" Well, sweety, they'd be killing a whole lot of Jews who might otherwise have survived and had perfectly fulfilling lives after the war. As well as any non-Nazis who were simply paid workers doing laundry, cooking food, or somesuch. But I mean, as long as you get to exact your vengeance by killing a few nazis (who may or may not even believe in the nazi principles and may just be doing their jobs), then that's gotta be a positive, right? Let us compare this to the doctor who is just doing his job. Let us compare this to the nurse who has nothing to do with the abortion department of the clinic and just man's the reception desk. Let us compare this to the young girl who has dangerously irregular periods but can't afford birth control pills (because they have been taken off medicade thanks to pro-lifers), so she is just there to pick up her prescription. Let us compare this to the mother of three who cannot afford another child and who's three born children (siblings and older, therefore "undesireable") who will be tossed from foster care to foster care. Let us compare this to the young woman who is getting abortion, but, if allowed to live, would have grown older, married, and had children with her husband. Let us compare this to the completely unrelated pedestrian who had the misfortune of walking out front when the bomb went off. But what's human life worth when you have an oppertunity to cause violence against those you've deemed "unworthy."
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:16 pm
For the love of gekkos, some of those folk need to take some more english classes and look into possible tutoring.
Aside from the atrocious poor writing skills, some of those ideas are quite atrocious as well. You've got to wonder how closed up some people's little world is.
- Someone wants rape victims by default to be forced to conceive
- Poor grasp of pro-choice arguments
- Symphathizing with terrorists (bombing clinics)
I can't imagine some of those people being so serious on those positions either. How old were the posters, 12 or 13?
*I had to edit the post, sorry for the inconveenience.
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:05 pm
My little bit of arguement to dismantle. Quote: Also, here's something that I'm not sure if it popped up yet, abortion is very painful to the aborted child, and the child gets NO morphine or painkillers. Talk about selfish women, kill their child and don't give it pain meds while they take pain medication all the time. No, it's not. Every drug the woman gets, the child takes from her bloodstream. And sporks are awesome, thank you very much. talk2hand
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:54 pm
Lupine Pyrefly My little bit of arguement to dismantle. Quote: Also, here's something that I'm not sure if it popped up yet, abortion is very painful to the aborted child, and the child gets NO morphine or painkillers. Talk about selfish women, kill their child and don't give it pain meds while they take pain medication all the time. No, it's not. Every drug the woman gets, the child takes from her bloodstream. And sporks are awesome, thank you very much. talk2hand Seriously, by their logic a fetus would starve to death because it can't take anything from the woman's bloodstream.
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:12 pm
Toga! Toga! Seriously, by their logic a fetus would starve to death because it can't take anything from the woman's bloodstream. s**t! We have to induce labour on all fetuses IMMEDIATELY so that they can be fed! Protect the zygots!
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:36 pm
Lupine Pyrefly My little bit of arguement to dismantle. Quote: Also, here's something that I'm not sure if it popped up yet, abortion is very painful to the aborted child, and the child gets NO morphine or painkillers. Talk about selfish women, kill their child and don't give it pain meds while they take pain medication all the time. No, it's not. Every drug the woman gets, the child takes from her bloodstream. And sporks are awesome, thank you very much. talk2hand Sporks are bad for food and good for throwing at people
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:59 pm
quote The only thing with stem cell research, is that they can try to justify it has helping others, though it has no proof of any kind of potential. My grandpa died of alzeimers, but he wouldnt have wanted embryo's destroyed for some cure. Any ways, there is another option. Sam Brownback has foun that you can get adult stem cells from cord blood, and the cells act more like adult cells, unlike the embryo cells that multiply without stop, hurting the patient. The only problem is, it takes a little bit of effort. This is murder, killing innocent biengs for some hope that a cure will be found. It's not worth it! I'm not positive about this because I haven't researched it well enough but wouldn't they just throw away these embryos if they didn't use them for medical research?
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:29 pm
SterileNeedles I'm not positive about this because I haven't researched it well enough but wouldn't they just throw away these embryos if they didn't use them for medical research? Yes. And I do not believe that adult stem cells can be used because these have already become specifically tailored to be a certain kind of task. If I am understanding correctly, it has to be stem cells that are used because these have not yet formed into specific types of cells and can therefore grow to me all the required portions of the spine (nerve, bone, marrow, and so forth). I think. I aints so sciencey.
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:59 pm
Kukushka SterileNeedles I'm not positive about this because I haven't researched it well enough but wouldn't they just throw away these embryos if they didn't use them for medical research? Yes. And I do not believe that adult stem cells can be used because these have already become specifically tailored to be a certain kind of task. If I am understanding correctly, it has to be stem cells that are used because these have not yet formed into specific types of cells and can therefore grow to me all the required portions of the spine (nerve, bone, marrow, and so forth). I think. I aints so sciencey. So if they're just going to through them away why not use them for medical research which could potentially save someone's life in the future? Seeing as how lifers are all about life and potential... I don't really even know what a stem cell is. I might just have to look into this one a bit. I've just seen a few things on the news about it and the debates regarding it. I saw a hilarious segment on the Daily Show where Jon Stewart showed a clip of a lifer babbling about why stem cell research is wrong and it was just so ridiculous and had so many irrelevant things to it. xd Here's the clip on Youtube Daily Show: Embryo Stem Cell Research
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:46 am
Kukushka SterileNeedles I'm not positive about this because I haven't researched it well enough but wouldn't they just throw away these embryos if they didn't use them for medical research? Yes. And I do not believe that adult stem cells can be used because these have already become specifically tailored to be a certain kind of task. If I am understanding correctly, it has to be stem cells that are used because these have not yet formed into specific types of cells and can therefore grow to me all the required portions of the spine (nerve, bone, marrow, and so forth). I think. I aints so sciencey. They CAN be used, but their potential is much smaller than embryo stem cells.
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:31 am
RMarques Kukushka SterileNeedles I'm not positive about this because I haven't researched it well enough but wouldn't they just throw away these embryos if they didn't use them for medical research? Yes. And I do not believe that adult stem cells can be used because these have already become specifically tailored to be a certain kind of task. If I am understanding correctly, it has to be stem cells that are used because these have not yet formed into specific types of cells and can therefore grow to me all the required portions of the spine (nerve, bone, marrow, and so forth). I think. I aints so sciencey. They CAN be used, but their potential is much smaller than embryo stem cells.
Yeah.... I read an article in like Newsweek or some such, talking about how adults have stem cells but use would be very very limited and would make the process much more tedious...
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:51 am
reggie _chan I feel kinda bad saying this, but I really do sympathize with the people who bomb abortion clinics. I understand where they are coming from, they are trying to stop people from killing others. They view abortion clinics for what they are. I mean what if someone bombed a holocaust death camp, and everyone called them extremists because they tried to stop them from killing Jews, but in the process killed a few nazis. Also I've never been a fan of democracy and our system of government, as I really don't trust it. I really am willing to go outside of conventional norms to do what is right, even if that means breaking the law. As to whether or not I'd actually do anything violent, I'm leaning toward no, but I honestly question if I would should I get personally involved. I just find it really hard to denounce them, when I feel very similar to them. I find it hard to denounce someone who is killing a murderer, especially one they know is going to murder again. What kind of braindead, dumbass mother ******** would post something like this, then say they're pro-life? *Edit* nvm
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:50 am
GreenSouthpaw Yeah.... I read an article in like Newsweek or some such, talking about how adults have stem cells but use would be very very limited and would make the process much more tedious... And, therefore, extremely expensive. So if you are a Bushy, you are fine. You have your cure. But if you are poor, as always, you are screwed.
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:27 pm
As a member of the PLG, as well as of this wonderful Guild, I was wondering what PLG thread you were quoting? [edit] Ok, you are quoting from multiple threads, I am assuming. I still can't find the thread that your first quote is from. A link to it would be nice And I can't see the comment about Clinic Bombing you are replying to. Which means that either I can't find the thread (and it isn't the one I was looking in), or it is from one of the (I think three) Pro-Lifers in the Guild on my ignore list. Who are all rather angry, sometimes hateful, extremists, who do not represent the Pro-Lifers as a whole. Here is something from a far more reasonable Pro-Lifer about Clinic Bombing: Quote: I'm sorry guys. I'm as pro-life as pro-life can be, but I have to absolutely denounce clinic bombers as not being pro-life. They're pushing their movement to the level where innocents in the ******** waiting room and nurses and such die. If you can't achieve your goal without spilling blood, you have to consider if that's a goal you really NEED to achieve. Clinic bombers are, to me, not seeing the whole side of the abortion issue. It's absolutely the wrong way to go about battling something like abortion. No sympathy, No excuse. The stem cell thread moved past the first post. As I know next to nothing about stem cell research, I can't say much, but they are talking about Adult Stem Cells (which I didn't know existed) and stem cells from the placenta, and really seem to know more about the issue than the first post that you quoted. It's fine to get angry and vent, but I wanted to show that all Pro-Lifers are not as extreme as the few who you are angry at.
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