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 Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:39 pm
...I was actually gonna title this " then average citizens who are not Christians, because they don't know better," are "le[d] astray, and it's wrong" but it didn't have enough room. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=50662&nfid=rssfeedsQuote: Rep. Harris Says Not Electing Christians Leads To Legislating 'Sin,' Including Abortion Rights Main Category: Abortion News Article Date: 30 Aug 2006 - 6:00am (PDT) | email this article | printer friendly | view opinions | Rep. Katherine Harris (R-Fla.), who is seeking the Republican nomination for the U.S. Senate race in Florida, last week in an interview for the Florida Baptist Witness, said, "If you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin," such as abortion rights, the Orlando Sentinel reports (Stratton, Washington Post, 8/26). She added that when Christians elect non-Christian leaders, and they "say abortion is permissible ... then average citizens who are not Christians, because they don't know better," are "le[d] astray, and it's wrong." Harris in the interview also talked about limiting abortion rights except in cases of rape, incest or when the life of the mother is in danger; supporting abstinence-only education; and opposing human embryonic stem cell research (Florida Baptist Witness, 8/24). Harris Campaign spokesperson Jennifer Marks has released a statement that says that Harris "continues to be an unwavering advocate of religious rights and freedoms" (Orlando Sentinel, 8/26). "Reprinted with permission from http://www.kaisernetwork.org. You can view the entire Kaiser Daily Health Policy Report, search the archives, or sign up for email delivery at http://www.kaisernetwork.org/dailyreports/healthpolicy. The Kaiser Daily Health Policy Report is published for kaisernetwork.org, a free service of The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation . © 2005 Advisory Board Company and Kaiser Family Foundation. All rights reserved. Okay-dokay, I'm not thinking much of her now..... rofl Quote: Harris "continues to be an unwavering advocate of religious rights and freedoms" WHAT? Advocate of religious rights and freedoms. Yeah, as long as that religion is Christianity for her, that is.
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:53 pm
..Le Chat du Noir.. WHAT? Advocate of religious rights and freedoms. Yeah, as long as that religion is Christianity for her, that is. "I advocate religious rights and freedoms... as long as those religions are all my brand of ********. *I* advocate religious rights and freedoms. *I* strongly support that everyone be able to believe their own beliefs free from interference from the chosen religion of those with power. She, however, is NOT advocating religious rights and freedoms. She is advocating that HER religion have SUPREMACY, which is not the same thing.
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:03 pm
A little too close to "vote for me or you go to hell" for my tastes. Dang.
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:04 pm
I am reminded of "now some of you may think that murder is ok... but the White House blah blah blah"
On the discussion of stem cell research.
Can you get more condecending? Not without a posh British accent, sorry.
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:12 pm
Especially since as I recall, it was those same people who legislate to allow the death penalty...
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:14 pm
GreenSouthpaw Especially since as I recall, it was those same people who legislate to allow the death penalty... Irrelevent. The death penalty is 100% advocated by the Bible. As is the stoning to death of your child if that child misbehaves. As is the owning of slaves. As is forcing your servants to carry your children to term. Any of these things is perfectly supported by plenty of Biblical references. Banning abortions, however, is not supported at all by any Biblical references. Go figure...
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:19 pm
Kukushka GreenSouthpaw Especially since as I recall, it was those same people who legislate to allow the death penalty... Irrelevent. The death penalty is 100% advocated by the Bible. As is the stoning to death of your child if that child misbehaves. As is the owning of slaves. As is forcing your servants to carry your children to term. Any of these things is perfectly supported by plenty of Biblical references. Banning abortions, however, is not supported at all by any Biblical references. Go figure...
Well I was referring to the "Well some of you may think that murder is OK..."
They call it murder when it's -6 months old, but not when it's a mother/father.
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:24 pm
Well, according to the Holy Bible, I'm a possession of my father and I am his to give away to his special friends.
My father's a good man though; he advocates me being able to decide what to do, and that I'm raised well enough to have a strong conscience but not so to be a bully.
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:30 am
..Le Chat du Noir.. Well, according to the Holy Bible, I'm a possession of my father and I am his to give away to his special friends. Please tell me that doesn't mean what I think it means neutral
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:53 am
rolleyes
The thing that scares me about democracy is that, in a country where the overwhelming majority of people are Christian, the people could effectively vote to turn the nation into a theocracy (which, many prominent Christians think that America is a theocracy, soo....).
This is sickening.
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:22 pm
MipsyKitten ..Le Chat du Noir.. Well, according to the Holy Bible, I'm a possession of my father and I am his to give away to his special friends. Please tell me that doesn't mean what I think it means neutral Not in my case- we're Buddhist.
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:16 pm
Anyone else losing hope in the human race?
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:26 pm
Oxymoronic Username Anyone else losing hope in the human race? I did a looong time ago..I had a point system too.. "Faith in humanity dropping 50 points and counting.." xd
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:51 pm
Let a society impose a fundamentalist religious theocracy, and see honestly how long that lasts. In Afghanistan, the people hate the taliban and want them out. People think they want a theocracy because they visualize a utopia, the cute and fluffy side of christianity versus the reality of oppression, repression, and suppression.
The very reason, in my personal opinion, that the western world developed a schism between church and state in the first place... is because Christianity is so awful a religion to follow in practice that people needed the secular devision in order to have the breathing room for a "life". Christianity is all about denying "the flesh", and worldly pursuits are demonized. How realistic a perspective is that?
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:09 pm
Grip of Death Let a society impose a fundamentalist religious theocracy, and see honestly how long that lasts. In Afghanistan, the people hate the taliban and want them out. People think they want a theocracy because they visualize a utopia, the cute and fluffy side of christianity versus the reality of oppression, repression, and suppression. The very reason, in my personal opinion, that the western world developed a schism between church and state in the first place... is because Christianity is so awful a religion to follow in practice that people needed the secular devision in order to have the breathing room for a "life". Christianity is all about denying "the flesh", and worldly pursuits are demonized. How realistic a perspective is that? Watch it end up something like A Handmaid's Tale. Y'know, pictures because women aren't allowed to read, total and complete repression, oppression and suppression... Depravity would flourish.
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