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  Abort the baby
  Adopt out the baby
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emilyyamaki

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:46 pm


I need some advice. My bf got me pregnant, and then, when I told him, he freaked out and left me. After that, I told my parents, and they freaked out and told me I had to take care of the child by myself. What do I do? I have a job that pays about 150 every 2 weeks...I currently have no money for myself, and now I don't know what to do...as I know I can't afford a child as well. Should I abort it? Should I not an dhope I can manage? Do I adopt it out? I just don't know what to do...please help...Note: One of the "Other" votes is by me, that way I can see the results without having to hit "Show Results" everytime...just reminding myself, and others...so...PLEASE tell me what you mean by "other" if you say that. NO POLL WHORING!!! ><

EDIT: I had a miscarriage a month or so back...thank you everyone for your help in this discussion, though.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:18 am


I chose other because honestly no one can tell you what you should do in this situation it is your life and there are factors we dont know about. All any of us can do is offer you information on your options.

For abortion you havent stated how many weeks along you are, once you hit 3 months its to late. I will also tell you at least where I live it gets more expensive the longer you wait.

Adoption if you take this road can would you go open or closed adoption, would you want to meet the prospective parents and most important for me when I made the same decision your faced with is can you carry for 9 months and then give away.

Keeping is the hardest option by far whatever your situation babies are time consuming and very dependent. I dont regret my choice ever but after 4 years I adore my son but somtimes mommy just wishes he was with someone else so could take a nice long nap razz You also need to find out if you will have a place to stay and if your eligable for welfare until you get a better job because babies are expensive. I wish you luck if you have any questions about these options then feel free to pm me.

Wotfan

wotfan


Yi Min

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:05 pm


No one can tell you what you should do. All we can do is make suggestions and give you information on your choices. You should research each of your choices and be careful not to look into the propoganda.

And know that there are people behind you, no matter what choice you make. Let us know how everything turns out.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:33 pm


Yeah...I guess you're right...I dunno...I mean...I think you could tell me what you think is the best road...that's what I'm looking for...

emilyyamaki


Nikolita
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:08 pm


emilyyamaki
Yeah...I guess you're right...I dunno...I mean...I think you could tell me what you think is the best road...that's what I'm looking for...


We can't. All we can offer is opinion and support, and neither of those should influence what your eventual decision would be.

It would be a good idea to talk to a doctor for sure, and discuss your 3 options. Talking to a trusted adult might also help, like a close family friend or a counsellor of some sort.

This sticky (scroll down, 4th post) has information on abortion, adoption, and raising the child that you might find useful:
http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=2608523

As wotfan mentioned, abortion rules change depending on where you live. In Canada, it's up to 5 months. In the US, I think it varies from state to state. You need to do some research, talk to a doctor, and look into it if you think it's something you might decide. Also, some places require you to have parental knowledge and consent before they'll perform the abortion. So, you need to find out about that too.

Another thing to consider about abortion is the emotional impact it might have on you. Depending on your opinion of abortion and your beliefs, it may or may not effect you emotionally. Some people view an embryo or a fetus as a non-human, and thus they are ok with abortion, whereas some people view the embryo/fetus as a living human in development and thus it is wrong to kill a living thing growing inside a female. There are some women who don't think too much of an abortion, and there are women who get one and regret it or feel guilty even years later down the road.

Adoption is another choice. With adoption, there's 2 sub-options: Closed Adoption, and Open Adoption. Open adoption seems to be less known than closed adoption. Again, if you're thinking of carrying the pregnancy to term, then you need to do research into one/both types of adoption, and see what's available for where you live.

Closed adoption means you give up your child at birth, you sign away your parental rights, and (to my knowledge) you are not able to see your child until they are 18. At that point, if the means are available, they can choose to contact you, or vice versa.
As wotfan mentioned, closed adoption can be hard for some people, as they find they are not able to give up the little person they carried for 9 months. Some change their minds at the last minute. Some women are unable to bear the knowledge that once they give up their baby, they will not see their child again for 18 years, if not longer. It's something to think about.

Open adoption is a bit different. While you are still giving up your baby, open adoption allows you to look at different prospective families, and pick the one you want your child to be adopted by. From there, once the child is adopted into the other family, I believe you are allowed parental visits so you still have a limited role in the child's life.

Finally, your third option is to keep the child. But going by what you've already told us, you need to seriously consider a lot of things:

1) Money and finances. You have no financial support from your family, from what it sounds like, so you will have only your own funds to live on. Can you make enough money before the child is born? What about welfare and government support to help raise the baby? Is your family willing to be supportive at all? What about Tyler's family?

2) Job or future career. With a child to raise, and little to no support from your family, how will you afford a baby-sitter/someone to watch your child while you're at work? What kind of job will you get with little education, and little job experience? Is it enough to live on, with a child to support?

3) Tyler's involvement. Even if he's left you, you can still take him to court for chid support. Of course, this will probably involve legal fees of some sort, which you'd need to talk over with your family. What will you do if you're a single parent? What will you do if he chooses to get back together with you during your pregnancy/after the baby is born? Can you risk him walking out again, if he's already shown he can do it once?

4) Education. With a baby to raise, where will you find time to go back to school and get your GED if you're still in high school? What about post-secondary education? Where will you find the money to raise a child and go to school, especially if you do it on your own? What if you take out student loans - will you have the money to repay them?

And so on, and so on.

As wotfan mentioned, it's very very hard to raise a child at a young age, especially on your own. My last landlady had a baby at 15, and from what I understood, she was thrown out of the house. She raised the baby as a single parent for 5 years, living in shelters and halfway houses, until she met her fiance at the age of 20. He's not her daughter's biological father, but he fills that role. She is still working on her schooling, and is turning 25 or 26. I don't think she has any regrets, but she doesn't deny that it has been hard. She works a job while going to school and raising her daughter. She has student loans she will eventually have to pay back, too.

It is fulfilling, yes, though tiresome at time and exhausting. And you need to think about what is best for your child, not what you want or think is best for you. If you have the support systems in place and the money to have a child and be a single parent, then it's something to consider. But if you have little money, which you said you do, and you have no family support or partner support, which you also said you don't have, then maybe you really, really need to sit down, talk to a trusted adult, and discuss your other options.

Good luck to you.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:58 pm


Hmm...yeah, your probably right...that did give me a lot to think about... -sighs- I just don't know what to do, though...I mean...I don't want to abort the child...but I don't think I can take the strain it takes to go through 9 months...then the fears of losing the child while I'm pregnant...or having a miscarriage or some other such thing is also putting a strain on my mind...in short, I feel like I'm going insane (if I wasn't already insane...) -sighs- I fear abortion may be a "healthy" choice for me...but who do I put first, my own well being or my babies? If it's "healthy" for me to get an abortion, but it would result in the child dying...what do I do? Should the abies well being come first? or should I put my own mental, meotional, and physical well being first?

emilyyamaki


Nikolita
Captain

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:07 pm


If you're considering an abortion, then you need to first analyze what you consider abortion to be. Is the developing embryo/fetus a human being in your mind, or is it just developing cells?

Also, how far along pregnant are you? Once you're past a certain point, you won't be able to get an abortion.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:54 pm


If I remember right, I'm about 6 weeks in...I can get an abortion until I'm 2 months (8 weeks) in...I also added a due date counter thing...

emilyyamaki


Akane Dan

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:40 am


Having a baby is one of the most memorable and most special occassion you can really ask for in your life. I am not saying that you should or shouldnt have your baby cause really, what it comes down too, is that it is your choice and your alone. No one can force you into doing something you dont want to do. It is not their decision. I too am pregnant, and I have never believe in Abortions. But like I said, that is also my choice and opinion. Whatever you do, everyone will support you and if they dont, they well, I dont know what to say to that.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:43 am


emilyyamaki
If I remember right, I'm about 6 weeks in...I can get an abortion until I'm 2 months (8 weeks) in...I also added a due date counter thing...

the latest you can get an abortion is before your fifth month...I could styill get one if I really wanted too right now..but I love lil kids and I've wanted one for a very long time now..so I know I am not going to be giving this one up for anything

Akane Dan


Nikolita
Captain

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:19 pm


Akane Dan
emilyyamaki
If I remember right, I'm about 6 weeks in...I can get an abortion until I'm 2 months (8 weeks) in...I also added a due date counter thing...

the latest you can get an abortion is before your fifth month...I could styill get one if I really wanted too right now..but I love lil kids and I've wanted one for a very long time now..so I know I am not going to be giving this one up for anything

It actually depends on where you live. In Canada, they won't do it past the 5th month. In the US, it varies from state to state, including those states that don't allow abortion at all anymore (ie - South Dakota and its newish anti-abortion bill).
PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:30 pm


Nikolita
Akane Dan
emilyyamaki
If I remember right, I'm about 6 weeks in...I can get an abortion until I'm 2 months (8 weeks) in...I also added a due date counter thing...

the latest you can get an abortion is before your fifth month...I could styill get one if I really wanted too right now..but I love lil kids and I've wanted one for a very long time now..so I know I am not going to be giving this one up for anything

It actually depends on where you live. In Canada, they won't do it past the 5th month. In the US, it varies from state to state, including those states that don't allow abortion at all anymore (ie - South Dakota and its newish anti-abortion bill).

ah right!
true enough

Akane Dan


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:36 pm


Well depending on where u live u have to abortit befor ur 3 months
PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:38 pm


Here are the basic laws state by state in the US

http://www.unitedforlife.org/report_cards/PDFs/2004_state_abortion_law_summary.pdf#search='state by state abortion laws'

(nikolita you might want to put this in the abortion sticky)


Here is some stuff about fetal viability which is what the law states in most states

What Is Fetal Viability?


A fetus is viable when it reaches an "anatomical threshold" when critical organs, such as the lungs and kidneys, can sustain independent life. Until the air sacs are mature enough to permit gases to pass into and out of the bloodstream, which is extremely unlikely until at least 23 weeks gestation (from last menstrual period), a fetus cannot be sustained even with a respirator, which can force air into the lungs but cannot pass gas from the lungs into the bloodstream.(4)


While medical advances have increased the survival of infants born between 24 and 28 weeks of gestation, the point of viability has moved little over the past decade; at the earliest, it remains at approximately 24 weeks, where it was when the Supreme Court decided Roe -- a fact acknowledged by the court in its recent decision in PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF SOUTHEASTERN PENNSYLVANIA V. CASEY.(5) A study of infant survival by researchers at Case Western Reserve University Medical School found that the rate of survival for infants born before 25 weeks gestation has not improved appreciably in recent years.(6)


According to a brief submitted to the Supreme Court in WEBSTER V. REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH SERVICES(7) by more than 150 distinguished scientists and physicians, "There are no medical developments anticipated in the foreseeable future that would bring about adequate fetal lung function prior to 23 or 24 weeks of gestation."(8 )

How Is Viability Determined?


Viability is a medical, not a legal term. The point of viability varies with each pregnancy and must be determined by physicians on a case-by-case basis, as recognized by the Supreme Court in cases since ROE.

In COLAUTTI, the Supreme Court defined viability as occurring "when, in the judgment of the attending physician on the particular facts of the case before him, there is a reasonable likelihood of the fetus' sustained survival outside the womb, with or without artificial support."

In DANFORTH, the Supreme Court said, "t is not the proper function of the legislature or the courts to place viability, which essentially is a medical concept, at a specific point in the gestation period ... and the determination of whether a particular fetus is viable is, and must be, a matter for the judgment of the responsible attending physician."

According to a brief filed with the Supreme Court in WEBSTER by the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, and several other national medical organizations, viability "is dependent upon a large number of factors. ... The importance of each of these factors and the medically appropriate method of measuring them will vary with the circumstances of the individual pregnancy."(9)

Even in CASEY, the court described the precise point of viability as "an imprecision within tolerable limits given that the medical community and all those who must apply its discoveries will continue to explore the matter."(10)

wotfan


Kazakazi

PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:23 pm


Have your parents at least offered shelter?
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