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 Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:34 pm
can BRD/RDM be a tank?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
rules:
.1 NO flameing/bashing!x_x
.2 put up your opinion!
.3 all thee above exclaim
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:35 pm
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Sheori_Baxton Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:40 pm
umm far as i know...............no.
brd is pretty much the weakling..even compare to other caster jobs. ( i should know i have a lvl 36 brd crying )
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:42 pm
Tank as in"
"I'll kill this NM if it takes me all day!!!"
or
"Don't bother looking for a nin, we can go with five!"
question
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:41 pm
later on it becomes powerful valor minuetIV,sword madrigal,stoneskin,phalanx,regen&refresh am'I correct?
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:00 pm
ballad(refresh) is lvl 25
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:57 pm
bard's often tank fafnir with ninja sub 3nodding
pull hate with songs pretty well~
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:45 pm
As May said, BRD/NIN is an amazing tank if played correctly. Mazurka pulls a nice chunk of hate wether you're in a dungeon or not. BRD/RDM I can't see being a better tank. Yes, theres alot of dmg-%, but a BRD without shadows gets hit HARD, and you can only take so much away from a high number by subtracting percentages.
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:37 am
RDM isn't really a great sub. I had to level it for my BLM because I guess that's what all the cool kids are doing these days and Phalanx doesn''t seem too exciting at sub level. I have not yet tried it as sub for my BRD but it seems impractical.
Bard does not become a powerhouse. Even with Joyeuse at 75 it will take forever to kill anything.
But if you throw /nin at anything it can tank. That's not the question here. MNK, with its paper thin DEF suddenly becomes a tank with /nin.
Mages Ballad I + II still just equals refresh rate, and the songs take awhile.
Generally seems pointless to do BRD/RDM for anything but messing around. It doesn't add a thing for pulling either, because you need your /na spells to stay self-sufficient enough to build up the big chains.
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:21 am
Bard are and probably always will be a support character first and formost. Because ofthis they are rather weak, lack defence, and have low-ish hp. Red mage is also mostly a support job lacking defence without spells, low hp. Combineing these doesn't look good in terms of tanking, infact I can only thing of one combination between rdm and brd and thats rdm/brd at lvl 50+ for manaburns. Refresh + mage ballard 1 = 4mp per tick plus they have elemental threnodys to weaken mob to selected element.
To sum up, brd/rdm as tank, no.
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:43 am
ok i come up with some crazy ideas but this one beats me out. I have never even heard of a BRD/anything as a tank for anything other then maybe solo. >.> new thought for me.
@Silvyee That hurts right <3 <----there. My monk does fine with takeing damage and i have nt even unlocked NIN yet.
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:35 pm
i could work, but i think /nin in a area thats inside with Mazurka haveing no effectt as a sort of provoke along with haste songs
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:51 pm
Alot of you seem to think BRD can't tank because they can't do dmg. I don't quite understand your logic here... Tank does not equal damage dealer. The only requirements of a tank is to hold hate (Mazurka and other songs) and take as little damage as possible (/NIN) for as long as possible (Songs take 0 MP and cannot be interuppted). For these reasons BRD/NIN is an excelent tank (end game anyway). I have tanked my share of HNMs and gods as BRD/NIN. If you can't get a song finished intime to get a new set of shadows up, while the mob has slow and elegy, then you're probably doing something wrong. I also exp as BRD/NIN mostly. At end game your healers should be experienced enough to not need the brd's /WHM help. and pulling with elegy, with shadows up, means theres virtually no down time. I normally pull 3-5 mobs at a time and lullaby them until the pt is ready for the next one.
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:24 pm
Wolftin ok i come up with some crazy ideas but this one beats me out. I have never even heard of a BRD/anything as a tank for anything other then maybe solo. >.> new thought for me. @Silvyee That hurts right <3 <----there. My monk does fine with takeing damage and i have nt even unlocked NIN yet. What lvl is your monk?
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:02 am
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