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 Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:47 pm
This is a rather big topic so I'm not putting it under Language Questions.
I read that the ending particle (is that what they're called? I'm just going to use that to refer to them.) 'yo' is similar to 'you know'. But I've heard it used in anime for sentences that I can't see how that would fit. Are there any other similar meanings that can sort of average out what 'yo' means?
What other ending particles are there? I know 'ne'. Any other important ones?
And I also read that Reno (see picture below heart ) from FFVII uses the ending particle 'ze to' or something like that and it means 'I was really laid back when I said that' according to some reference I can't remember. And there's the famous 'no da' from Fushigi Yuugi, roughly translated as 'you know' too.
Are these very accurate? Maybe not 'no da', but is 'ze to' very widely used?
Domo arigatou gozaimasu, mina-san ^^.
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:46 pm
"Yo" is generally used for emphasis, to forcefully state your opinion. Some people say it's the equivalent of an exclaimation point, but it's not something you can use interchangeably with a english exclaimation point.
I haven't heard "ze" but according to jim breen ze is equivalent to zo, which is a masculine ending that adds force to the sentance, like a warning or command. I guess it could also be a verbal encouragement to oneself.
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:49 pm
Freakezette "Yo" is generally used for emphasis, to forcefully state your opinion. Some people say it's the equivalent of an exclaimation point, but it's not something you can use interchangeably with a english exclaimation point. I haven't heard "ze" but according to jim breen ze is equivalent to zo, which is a masculine ending that adds force to the sentance, like a warning or command. I guess it could also be a verbal encouragement to oneself. no ze and zo are different. i can explain them because they are ebing short(there aremany end particles like mon/mono , monoka, ni, that westerners confuse with other things) but first i explain all ove ね use
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:54 pm
＊ね cna be lengtheed to ねー
indicate emotion or admiring.
かわいい猫ねー！
what a cute cat (isnt it)!
elicit agrremnt:
いい天気ね
it is nice weather (isnt it)
softens request:
これを食べてねー
(please) eat this (wont you?)
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:07 pm
よ
urges action or indicate request (is stronger it strengths, ne softens)
(note: yo is best not be used with lets forms (~ou, ~mashou, ~you,~shou)
帰ってよ！
go home!
くってよ！
EAT!
indicate staement of certanty:
名字は石原だよ！
my last name is ishihara!
べつに、子供が大～好きよ！
not at all, i love children
neutral emphasis:
今すぐ会いたいよ！
i want to meet now!
とても馬鹿だよ！
you are such and idiot!!!
命だけ助けてよ！
spare me my life! (lt. save only my life!)
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:14 pm
わ (only for women)
indicate emotion or feeling admiring:
弘、好きだわよ
hiromu, i love you~
soften statement:
あんたかっこいって思うわ
i think you are handsome....
わよ is just feminine よ
行くわよ！
i should not be needing to translate that >.>
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:23 pm
かな（for men and women) かしら (only women)
always means i wonder:
ちょっと大きいかしら
it is a little big (lit. i wonder if it is to big, just japanese politeness, could be used for: big clothes, your mom make you very big lunch, or your boyfriend is buying of a tv that is bigger than your house)
えーと、今日は何曜日かな
umm, i wonder what today is.
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:32 pm
な
indicate emotion, by men in normal speech, and by women in informal talking wya:
すげーなー！
amazing(isnt it)
used like informal/manly ね
very informal prohibit by women,normal speech by men:
噛むなー！！！！
DONT BITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:49 pm
さ
this has the modern use and the normal use:
modern:
it is like "right"
バースで男を見てさ、奇妙な事って言っててさ、じゃこわくなった。
on the bus, i saw man right, and he was saying strange things right, and i got scared.
normal:
indicate crucial response:
あたしの息子、みつけてあるんだよ？！
お亡くなりなっていますのですさ。
have you found my son?!
he is (respectfully) dead.
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:53 pm
i have five more particle of ending to explain, please wait for later.
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:29 pm
GAK I can't read half of that. O.o Could you romanji it? I've only learned like 1/3 of the Hiragana, no Katakana, and I know what a few Kanji (like two...and they're the tree and river ones ^^ wink mean but I can't actually read them.
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:51 pm
che_hyun GAK I can't read half of that. O.o Could you romanji it? I've only learned like 1/3 of the Hiragana, no Katakana, and I know what a few Kanji (like two...and they're the tree and river ones ^^ wink mean but I can't actually read them. I just leave it. Even if I can't read it. Thank you for the information Aiko san.
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 2:26 pm
Leave it? But I want to know! Anyway, what has she accomplished if I just nod and say 'wakarimasu' but I don't?
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:20 pm
che_hyun Leave it? But I want to know! Anyway, what has she accomplished if I just nod and say 'wakarimasu' but I don't? If you can't read the kanji, copy and paste the text into this window and it will give you the reading (in kana) http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?9T As for kana, I'm a fan of learning the kana and getting as far away from romaji as you can. Just practice a couple a day, and you'll know them all in very little time. Here's a kana flash card site http://www.genki-online.com/js/
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:26 pm
Freakezette che_hyun Leave it? But I want to know! Anyway, what has she accomplished if I just nod and say 'wakarimasu' but I don't? If you can't read the kanji, copy and paste the text into this window and it will give you the reading (in kana) http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?9T As for kana, I'm a fan of learning the kana and getting as far away from romaji as you can. Just practice a couple a day, and you'll know them all in very little time. Here's a kana flash card site http://www.genki-online.com/js/ ok i understand your pain ogf kanji, but i will not tolerate not being able read kana and starting the grammar, learn kana first please do.
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