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It's, uhh... educational?
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cibarium

Noob

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:12 pm


Just... please delete this or something.

I got rid of everything because it sickened me to see how I was writing that stuff.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:13 pm


Rambles I need to post:

-Plants
-Gregarious insects
-Bioluminescence(?)

cibarium

Noob


cibarium

Noob

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:36 pm


Mouse is annoying, take 1.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:24 pm


Mouse is annoying, take 2.

cibarium

Noob


cibarium

Noob

PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:35 am


Kat, please do not quote my entire post! It's unnecessary. D:

I am going to get to how the exoskeleton could work in my next ramble.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:23 pm


I have something in mind that bothers me a little, actually, coming to insects.
Mouth. Mandibles. Teeth. I think everyone understand pretty well where I'm going to.
Waiting for your interpretation with patience. 3nodding

Dark_Musashi


cibarium

Noob

PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:22 pm


Mouse is annoying, take 3.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:22 pm


Well, technicaly speaking, at least in the antennae department, it varies greatly from insect to insect. Insects are at least as biologically diverse as, say,mammals, if not a great deal more so.

Take this butterfly for example:

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For the horns: yes, they have a keratin sheath, but underneath that sheath, they're bone:

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Antlers, on the other hand, lack the keratin sheath and are just exposed bone (with the exception of the velvet layer while they're growing in, which is a thin sheath of furry skin.

As far as the nervous system goes, ultimately keep in mind that these are anthros, physiologically, most of the characters are going to be keeping a fundamentally human structure when it comes to some of the most basic body systems.

From what I've learned in biology class given the exoskeletons: there's a reason that insects only get so large. Because smaller things have a larger surface area: body mass ratio, you can contain the viscera and keep the structure of the body with the chitinous exoskeleton alone.
However, the bigger an organism gets, the more body mass you've got to the surface area, and in order to maintain that structure the chitin has to thicken exponentially to keep up with it. Eventually, without an internal skeleton, the exoskeleton has to be SO thick to contain the insides and keep a structure that the organism would be unable to move.

So, in the case of IoDM'ers, we have proposed that they keep their internal skeletons (or at least changed variations thereof to compensate for changed physical shapes), in addition to the hardened plates that arise out of the skin.


Evolutionary theory is a great thing to look into for analogous transformations. Seeing how something was formed expresses the human equivalent.

For example, beaks. THe beak is the equivalent of the bones of the upper and lower mandibles, not the teeth, as is fun, and usually easier to convert in artwork. Because of the Archaeoptryx (as well as some modern evolutionary throwbacks where you get chickens with teeth in their bills - hence the term 'hensteeth').

Article about beak evolution: http://jscms.jrn.columbia.edu/cns/2006-02-28/upson-birdbeaks

If you also look closely at a bird's beak area, you will see the nose "pushed up" around the edges of the hard bill, where the skin stops and the beak begins.

But, when you boil it all down, ultimately all of this is science fiction. ANY of this is completely conjecture, and even IF this was all possible, it would likely only be plausible about 20% of the time... with mammals. But yeah.

Sabin Duvert
Vice Captain

Winter Trash


MrFallenKitten

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:33 am


Anyone want to help me with how a displacer beast's tenticles would work? I posted a couple thoughts about them in my quest thread but I'm not sure I like the hydraulic solution. All that water would make them very heavy. All art work of displacer beasts that an almost gravity defying to them. Any ideas how this could work? I feel that a structure with bones wouldn't be flexible or fast enough to use the tenticles as weapons.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:41 am


Mouse is annoying, take 4.

cibarium

Noob


Casey_Mae

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:59 am


Kay, so question-
I know this is sci-fi, but how would the whole injecting and mutating thing work? Wouldnt you have a poisenous reaction to the forign dna? Your immunitys would go bezerk trying to cope with it...
Or is it the first surum that prevents that? Does it work much like allergy shots do, temporarily dulling the auto-immunitys to the dna? I suppose over time it would lessen the extream anti-reaction twords the dna and learn to cope with it. Can you clear this up for me? Thanks.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:53 am


Mouse is annoying, take 5.

cibarium

Noob


cibarium

Noob

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:58 am


Also, Sabin, about the neverending insect debate- I think we are both forgetting that humans possess fat. It wouldn't be that much of a stretch for an excess of fat to develop as a support for the exoskeleton, with some of it becoming cartilage, even.

The entire remaining skeleton could form into cartilage, actually. Isn't that lighter than bone?
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