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shojokakumeii00
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 12:59 am


There are spoilers, sort of , this mainly details things that were removed from episode 2 and continues with the whole Soraya controversy from a few months ago.

Quoted from a post on the-ethos' BBS:
Quote:
http://fridge.soraya.jp/faq.html

Quote:
4. Soraya decided to give answers to most frequently questions. The following are the summary of answers.

* Leaving was not Soraya's decision. Soraya was said goodbye same as in the case of other Episode I artists including
Mr. Yasunori Mitsuda, Mr. Kunihiko Tanaka,
and the Mr. you-know-who. (Please do not ask Soraya who he is.)
* Soraya is a freelance artist.
* There was no particular reason behind the displacement of old artists. The new director of Xenosaga II/III just wants
the saga all new.
* The official advertisement says the new saga will have new sounds, new designs (as seen in Epsode II) and more easier
story to read (as seen in the disc 2 of the Episode II).
* Soraya and Tetsuya Takahashi were marginally involved in the Episode II by contributing the first version of the
script. (It was not a plot outline but a complete script including actual characters' lines.)
* Soraya's last contribution to the saga was the first version of the script for the Episode II and rewrites of The
Pied Piper. (The game for Vodafone sold in Japan 2004)
* The shortened/adapted script of the Episode II is by Monolithsoft.
* You can see Soraya's mark she left to the Episode II in:
o The conversation between Juli and Ziggy
o Momo Encephalon (In first version, It was not Juli's idea of destroying Momo's memory, but a subcommitteeman's.
Juli hesitated.)
o The story about U.R.T.V. (with the exception of the chapters after Momo Encephalon and young Albedo's verbal
abuse/violent acts against Sakura. They were added by Monolithsoft.)
o Albedo's short speech about the higher dimension. (His last words "You look like you lost your sweetheart ...
anyway I hate you both" were added by Monolithsoft.)
* Soraya doesn't know what the story of the Episode III will be like. The new writer of the Episode III will write a
new story in his style. (The chapters after Momo Encephalon and Disc 2 are his style.)
* The new team has the right to change or ignore Takahashi's plot outline.
* Soraya wrote approximately half of of the script for the Episode I. She is responsible for:
o Ziggy and his family, Voyager, Momo, Mizrahis, Godwins, Yuriev, U.R.T.V.s, and the part of Shion during her
stay in Durandal and the Kookai Foundation
* Soraya is not an expensive artist.
* Soraya has created no delay.
* The parent company is not responsible to the changeover.
* The first version of the script by Soraya and Takahashi was not religiously or politically sensitive. It had just
harmless chapters like:
o Ziggy's past history (as seen in The Pied Piper)
o U.R.T.V.'s past history (as seen in the Episode II)
o Shion's past history with Febronia (removed)
o Jr's rapid growing (removed)
o Both juvenile and grown-up Jr. available in the battle (removed)
o The ghost of the old Miltia (removed)
o The death of Sakura (removed)
o Brief reunion with grown-up Citrine (removed)
o Gaignun vs Zohar emulators (removed)
o Jr.'s transformation/overdrive (removed)
o Jr. & Albedo vs U-DO vs KOS-MOS 3rd armament (removed)
o Shion's spiritual seeking/witnessing/awakening (removed)
o The truth about KOS-MOS (removed)
o Conversation between chaos and the red cloak man (removed)
o Conversation between Nephilim and the boy with the blocks (removed)
o An antimatter annihilation of Albedo (removed)
* Soraya has no intention of playing for attention. No one has to pay attention to this.
* Soraya has no option to come back. And she knows well the saga no longer needs Saga.


They cut a whole damn game out, alot of this stuff looks like what episode 2 was supposed to be.


Talks of a boycott are resurging with more strength this time. I'm joining the boycott if there's no news of the stuff that was removed is appearing in ep3.
Spread the news around. Despite what most people think the fans have a huge ammount of sway with a game like XS.

And on a random note, I was right! Citrine does live~ Ok, now that I've mentioned that I'm going to go back to being pissed off/crying in a corner.
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 4:45 pm


What the hell. What the hell.

Points of contention:

In first version, It was not Juli's idea of destroying Momo's memory, but a subcommitteeman's.
Juli hesitated.


Right. Because that isn't a big change, not at all. That doesn't put a completely different spin on her character.

Soraya wrote approximately half of of the script for the Episode I. She is responsible for:
o Ziggy and his family, Voyager, Momo, Mizrahis, Godwins, Yuriev, U.R.T.V.s...


I swear, if they ruin the Mizrahis and Yuriev...I'm aware that yes, I am one person and I am the entire fanbase for these characters. But I'll be really pissed if they get ruined.

The death of Sakura (removed)

When I was writing Stamina, my long fanfiction, I had to make this up. I would have loved it to have been included.

Brief reunion with grown-up Citrine (removed)

That would have been great too.

And anyway, will we ever see more of Mizrahi as a character? How about Yuriev? Seriously. These guys (and girl) are pretty important. No mention of them, though.

This really sucks.

Tsaret


shojokakumeii00
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 9:31 am


I know! I'm still really pissed off. A lot of people are speculating now that this was a ploy to draw out the first arc to make more money. But regardless they've totally screwed up the story. Just about everything I wanted to see was removed! And the only bits of ep2 I did like turned out to be Soraya's contributions *huggles URTV*

On a related note Soraya was advised to remove the FAQ summary from her site (probably for legal reasons -- I'm sure she's still under some kind of contract with MSI as far as revealing story information is concerned). The guys on the-ethos' bbs think we should still pass the info around, and I'm inclined to agree. I wonder how long it'll take for the major gaming news sites to make a scandle out of this...
PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 1:42 pm


I'm just worried about my favorite characters getting screwed with.

Honestly, she's a minor character, but leave her alone. I like her as she is. For God's sake don't make her happy and peppy.

Tsaret


Shinigami Liliz Black

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 2:17 pm


Ekplixi
I'm just worried about my favorite characters getting screwed with.

Honestly, she's a minor character, but leave her alone. I like her as she is. For God's sake don't make her happy and peppy.


I'm worry about it too. Damn they cut most of the game! Especially mysteries from EPI that were going to be answer! gonk

So what's KOS-MOS now? Shion, her connections Febronia, Sakura and the rest? Even if there're minor character they're still part of the story and they first appeared on EPI. Are they going to let that hanging just because it's not important?They're suppose to clarify the mysteries and the why's! stressed

I just hope chaos's mysteries weren't change or else I'll get enraged scream
PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 4:27 pm


Quite frankly, I am PISSED OFF LIKE NO TOMORROW!!! I plan on forgetting the Xenosaga series if they leave so much of this IMPORTANT information out of something we want to know! I wanted to see a reunion with Citrine! I wanted to see how Jr looked grown up! I wanted to see how Sakura died exactly. In my fanfic...I had to make it up too! I am disgusted at how they removed the best stuff ever! No wonder ep. 2 was so short, cause they cut off all the good crap...ok, my rant is over...

~~Shion U.~~


Ziggurat the Eighth

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 5:58 pm


It... But... *weeps*
PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 9:27 pm


......WHAT! eek

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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 12:21 pm


*commits fanatic suicide* gonk


Why....why must they butcher...Xeno...saga...like that... Ish no fair... crying
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 11:05 am


This is horrifying... very horrifying... I hope this is all a very bad dream... just a dream. My goodness they cut out a lot of stuff. This sucks! Probably the reason why the game is so short. crying

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Ziggurat the Eighth

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:29 pm


*weeps yet again*

shojokakumeii00
I wonder how long it'll take for the major gaming news sites to make a scandle out of this...


They only seem to mention that Soraya left. There's nothing about all the parts that were butchered.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:56 am


Ziggurat the Eighth
*weeps yet again*

shojokakumeii00
I wonder how long it'll take for the major gaming news sites to make a scandle out of this...


They only seem to mention that Soraya left. There's nothing about all the parts that were butchered.


Yeah they seem to have stayed away from this one, or just missed it because it did "happen" during/just prior to the whole deluge of gaming news that accompanies E3. I doubt any gaming news sites will pick it up now since at this point it's old news. Though it might come out again when news about episode 3 starts to come out.

shojokakumeii00
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Ziggurat the Eighth

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:08 pm


That's a shame. It would've been nice for Soraya if there'd been a huge uproar from the fans.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:14 pm


i would have loved to see this xeno
too bad crying

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They Keyblade Master

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:53 am


i don't believe this!
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