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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:16 pm
Well lookie here i have a new list of problems i'll list them with details any advise, sugestions, hope, expariance would be great
Problem #1: Even after i told my GF that im gay we are still togeter. i wan't to end it but then again i don't. I'll list the reasons why i do and don't
Reasons to end it: If she could have me on a leash she would, no over exageration there, She knows i can't call her or answer the phone when she calls my cell before 6 yet she dose and gets mad when i don't pick up. Dosn't call for 5 days (normaly she calls ever day) and i was worried but too bussy to call her and when she finaly calls she starts to complain that i never called her and im just like WTF and we fight while im over at a friends house and some other guy that likes here winds up cuting him self or some thing. She thinks every time i talk to one of my gay friends online that were cybering or that im cheating on her, which im not he lives in NY. she and i both have f***ed up pasts and we both respectivly have mental problems becase of it. and she makes me say i love you when i don't i really don't know what love means any more.
Reasons not to end it: we have most of the same classes next year and she'll be giving me the cold sholder or telling every one that I'm gay and i really don't need that. I don't want to hurt her.
Problem #2:I have a stright friend (who ironicly IMed me while i was typing this) i wan't to tell him i'm gay but i don't want to losse this friendship and mostlikly get kicked out of our band
Why not to tell him: He says he dosn't mind gays aslong as they don't talk to him *cough* he might tell people, i might get kicked out of our band. lose our friendship
Why to tell him:So i don't have to lie, i can explain why i have only had 3 gfs, when he tells me to look at/talks about/brags about/asks about a girl i don't have to feel akward
Problem #3:I have always wanted to raise two kids one girl on boy, and name them Lucian(boy) and Arkroma(girl) i wanted to be some one's dad and be a better father then my dad. but there are some problems with that.
The Bad: I don't want ot be in a relationship with another man becase for my kids that would be akward growing up with only two fathers. and i don't want my kids resenting me becase of my sexuality. I would feel bad if my son or daugter wound up being gay. mainly my son becase there would be akward things. If i were to do this it would have to be alone and i don't know what is worse for kids living in an orphange or haveing only a father. and to do so i'd have to have a full time nany and day job.
the good: I would give to kids much better lives then mine.
so yah any and all help/advise/comments/experiance would help Thanks
And no im not on speed i just like lists
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:56 pm
Problem 1: I would have to say end it. I had an ex who treated me the exact same way and I found that I had changed a lot while we were together. My entire life was centered around what she thought about me. I neglected my friends, family, and everyone else i loved so that her opinion of me would be the same. I understand that you don't want to hurt her, but to not break up with her would only hurt her more in the long run.
Problem 2: Someone once said "Be who you are and say what you feel. Those who mind don't matter, and those who matter dont mind." I remember what it was like when I told my friends that I was bi, and they took it a lot better that I thought they would, even laughing when they said they didnt care. What made it so frightening was not knowing how they would take it. You should be honest with your friends, but feel free take your time and wait till you are ready to tell him.
Problem 3: Which option, when you look into the future, do you see yourself being happier as? A married man spending your life with the one you love, or a single parent giving kids a better life. Personally, I would go with adopting the kids, showing them that there are still good people in the world that care about them. But, that said, society may change before then. Gay people might actually have the same rights and respect as straight people in the world...i know im being optimistic, but its something to hope for.
I hope I helped you out.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:34 pm
Mountain_Drew Problem 1: I would have to say end it. I had an ex who treated me the exact same way and I found that I had changed a lot while we were together. My entire life was centered around what she thought about me. I neglected my friends, family, and everyone else i loved so that her opinion of me would be the same. I understand that you don't want to hurt her, but to not break up with her would only hurt her more in the long run. Problem 2: Someone once said "Be who you are and say what you feel. Those who mind don't matter, and those who matter dont mind." I remember what it was like when I told my friends that I was bi, and they took it a lot better that I thought they would, even laughing when they said they didnt care. What made it so frightening was not knowing how they would take it. You should be honest with your friends, but feel free take your time and wait till you are ready to tell him. Problem 3: Which option, when you look into the future, do you see yourself being happier as? A married man spending your life with the one you love, or a single parent giving kids a better life. Personally, I would go with adopting the kids, showing them that there are still good people in the world that care about them. But, that said, society may change before then. Gay people might actually have the same rights and respect in the world...i know im being optimistic, but its something to hope for. I hope I helped you out. well witht he first two you did but im not sure i really needed help with the second one just insight
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:44 pm
Quote: well witht he first two you did but im not sure i really needed help with the second one just insight I apologize for not being able to help on the third one.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:49 pm
Mountain_Drew Quote: well witht he first two you did but im not sure i really needed help with the second one just insight I apologize for not being able to help on the third one. its not your fault im glad you don't have to face that delima
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:14 pm
#1--Girls are fickle, it's a genetic mishap we have V_V. I say give it a bit of time. If you're worried about the cold shoulder and all that comes with it, be careful of how you break up (if that's what you choose). Whatever you do, don't just throw caution to the wind, and WHATEVER YOU DO--DO NOT! I REPEAT, DO NOT BREAK UP WITH HER OVER THE PHONE!!!
#2--This one is up to you to decide...you could try to introduce the idea slowly...? Don't throw it at him all at one time...? But then again, people always use the Band-aide anaolgy and it seems to work well for them. Sorry, this one is tricky....(aside: I've only had one bf(?) in my entire existance on this planet, 3 IS ALOT! eek )
#3--it would only be awkward for the children if you made it awkward for them!
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:41 pm
Fadia Stalyr #1--Girls are fickle, it's a genetic mishap we have V_V. I say give it a bit of time. If you're worried about the cold shoulder and all that comes with it, be careful of how you break up (if that's what you choose). Whatever you do, don't just throw caution to the wind, and WHATEVER YOU DO--DO NOT! I REPEAT, DO NOT BREAK UP WITH HER OVER THE PHONE!!! #2--This one is up to you to decide...you could try to introduce the idea slowly...? Don't throw it at him all at one time...? But then again, people always use the Band-aide anaolgy and it seems to work well for them. Sorry, this one is tricky....(aside: I've only had one bf(?) in my entire existance on this planet, 3 IS ALOT! eek ) #3--it would only be awkward for the children if you made it awkward for them! 1 um the phone thing, why? 2 And i guess i could just lie a little more and say im bi and make sure he knows that i have no fealings for him which i don't. 3 what do you mean by that?
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:46 pm
Twack Fadia Stalyr #1--Girls are fickle, it's a genetic mishap we have V_V. I say give it a bit of time. If you're worried about the cold shoulder and all that comes with it, be careful of how you break up (if that's what you choose). Whatever you do, don't just throw caution to the wind, and WHATEVER YOU DO--DO NOT! I REPEAT, DO NOT BREAK UP WITH HER OVER THE PHONE!!! #2--This one is up to you to decide...you could try to introduce the idea slowly...? Don't throw it at him all at one time...? But then again, people always use the Band-aide anaolgy and it seems to work well for them. Sorry, this one is tricky....(aside: I've only had one bf(?) in my entire existance on this planet, 3 IS ALOT! eek ) #3--it would only be awkward for the children if you made it awkward for them! 1 um the phone thing, why? 2 And i guess i could just lie a little more and say im bi and make sure he knows that i have no fealings for him which i don't. 3 what do you mean by that? 1--Because it's the cowards way out! WE HATE THAT! gonk 2--Whatever you feel is the best route, I may not be the best person to give advice in this particular area... sweatdrop 3--I mean if you choose to live your life with a man and adopt children, don't live out your life wondering if they will judge you! Kids can sense when something's wrong, but they also have that little thing called unconditional love. And if you're worried about what a son would think if he had a gay father--teach him as he grows up to be accepting of others and he will accept and love you too!
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:10 pm
Fadia Stalyr Twack Fadia Stalyr #1--Girls are fickle, it's a genetic mishap we have V_V. I say give it a bit of time. If you're worried about the cold shoulder and all that comes with it, be careful of how you break up (if that's what you choose). Whatever you do, don't just throw caution to the wind, and WHATEVER YOU DO--DO NOT! I REPEAT, DO NOT BREAK UP WITH HER OVER THE PHONE!!! #2--This one is up to you to decide...you could try to introduce the idea slowly...? Don't throw it at him all at one time...? But then again, people always use the Band-aide anaolgy and it seems to work well for them. Sorry, this one is tricky....(aside: I've only had one bf(?) in my entire existance on this planet, 3 IS ALOT! eek ) #3--it would only be awkward for the children if you made it awkward for them! 1 um the phone thing, why? 2 And i guess i could just lie a little more and say im bi and make sure he knows that i have no fealings for him which i don't. 3 what do you mean by that? 1--Because it's the cowards way out! WE HATE THAT! gonk 2--Whatever you feel is the best route, I may not be the best person to give advice in this particular area... sweatdrop 3--I mean if you choose to live your life with a man and adopt children, don't live out your life wondering if they will judge you! Kids can sense when something's wrong, but they also have that little thing called unconditional love. And if you're worried about what a son would think if he had a gay father--teach him as he grows up to be accepting of others and he will accept and love you too! oh ok thanks and gods unconditional love that brings back memories...gods that was the first time i really cired this year i didn't even squezz out a tear when i was going to kill my slef but gods few hugs and damn im bawling, sorry rant
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:49 pm
Problem 1: I say talk to your girlfriend and tell her to stop being on your back all the time you not an item anymore and don't love each other like you were a normal straight/gay couple.
Problem: I say start easing it off to or bring in things that relate to gay people into the conversaition and see how he reacts to it. That way you'll know if you should tell him, wait longer or never tell him.
Problem 3: There are many same sex parents throught out the world who have raised their childs to be accepting and succesful people. It doesn't matter if your gay or straight, their gay or straight, or any one else is gay or staight love is the only thing that matters and if you teach your children to accept people for who they are then you'll have no problem.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:00 pm
Shadow of Fantasy Problem 1: I say talk to your girlfriend and tell her to stop being on your back all the time you not an item anymore and don't love each other like you were a normal straight/gay couple. Problem: I say start easing it off to or bring in things that relate to gay people into the conversaition and see how he reacts to it. That way you'll know if you should tell him, wait longer or never tell him. Problem 3: There are many same sex parents throught out the world who have raised their childs to be accepting and succesful people. It doesn't matter if your gay or straight, their gay or straight, or any one else is gay or staight love is the only thing that matters and if you teach your children to accept people for who they are then you'll have no problem. yah the problem with umber 3 is that if i were to atempt raising them alone i'd never be there
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:21 am
Children raised by same sex couples can actually be more emotionally stable for many reasons. They get a less confined view of the world, they get to see that men don't specifically hav one set of rolesm and women don't have one set of roles. Because both parents are men they really get to see men in a full care giving mode which does not happen all the time, as well as men in the provider role.
Could the children get teased for having two dads? Yes. I got teased too for being a generic weirdo. I know kids who were teased because of their hair, their clothes, their glasses, Kids get teased. It happens. And if you properly equip your children to handle it emotionally it shouldn't be a problem. It's not so much the fact that they have two dads, it's that at young ages many kids (especially only children) only know about their home life and what is normal and if they're parents don't tell them other lives are different, they think it's weird and will latch onto it. They'd do the same if maybe a kid had a different hair color or glasses. There's always the "I know my dads love me, and that's what matters" reply.
I know I'm gonna fact that problem when I grow up, cause I want to have one child that's biologically mine (or my partner's and there are like...2 developed and 1 undeveloped technology which I won't get in to) and adopt one child from China.
Done with that Rant! Onto problem one- here's the big question: Are you more emotionally strained than emotionally rewarded by the relationship? If so, end it. It's not healthy to drag it out. Try talking to her but if that does not help, no good.
Problem two: I agree with Shadow, try to find maybe a news article about gay issues and ask about his opinion. Use that as a gauge but also go with that "Those who matter don't mind and those who mind don't matter" bit. Love that line. Always have.
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:14 pm
Ok well its isn't much of a problem but i cant spell conundram(sp)
I found out today that my High School has a GSA. i would love to join but i have a feeling word would spread and from what i know there aren't manny stight people in there. So what should i do? i really wan't to join and get support and come to terms more with my sexuality but idk
Pros: I'd develop more of a pride for who i am. I'd get support by others like and unlike me. and if i ever come to better terms with my sexuality i might even find some one.
Cons:Rummors gods i hate them! lossing friends becase of the rummors (though yah i know if they care they don't matter but still i have very few friends) Insults for people i don't know.
Though one cover i'd have is geting my friends to join with me as kinda a joke but then i really couldn't be open about it in the meetings unless they have anianimity
what do you say?
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:58 pm
I would join the GSA and don't care much about what people think but you can always lie (why do we always have to lie?) and say your straight after all it is the gay straight aliance.
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:28 pm
Shadow of Fantasy I would join the GSA and don't care much about what people think but you can always lie (why do we always have to lie?) and say your straight after all it is the gay straight aliance. yah but im sick of lieign thats all i've done since i found out i was gay and when i told people i lied and said i was bi its just im so F***ing sick of lieing!
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