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Aiko_589

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:45 pm


according to government japan's population is DROPPING, ALOT!

very few japanese are having children, because of dropping economy japan women have to work more, and marry later!!!!!!!


also the brith rate is 1 child per adult

japan population 125,000,000

25million= 65 and over people

87milliom people= eligible to have children

13milliom people= to young to have children

a country need 2 children per couple to survive, what could happen?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?

*i MUSt have 3 daughters and a boy now*
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:17 pm


Aiko_589
according to government japan's population is DROPPING, ALOT!

very few japanese are having children, because of dropping economy japan women have to work more, and marry later!!!!!!!


also the brith rate is 1 child per adult

japan population 125,000,000

25million= 65 and over people

87milliom people= eligible to have children

13milliom people= to young to have children

a country need 2 children per couple to survive, what could happen?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?

*i MUSt have 3 daughters and a boy now*


That sucks but... as long as people have kids it will continue. But isn't Japan already over-populated like too many people per area? This may not be a bad thing because it won't be as crowded and it will take a long time before everyone is gone.

It'll be alright smile soon at least 100million will be able to have kids at least. 4/5 can soon have kids.

Mikagi-sama

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Aiko_589

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:18 pm


Mikagi-sama
Aiko_589
according to government japan's population is DROPPING, ALOT!

very few japanese are having children, because of dropping economy japan women have to work more, and marry later!!!!!!!


also the brith rate is 1 child per adult

japan population 125,000,000

25million= 65 and over people

87milliom people= eligible to have children

13milliom people= to young to have children

a country need 2 children per couple to survive, what could happen?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?

*i MUSt have 3 daughters and a boy now*


That sucks but... as long as people have kids it will continue. But isn't Japan already over-populated like too many people per area? This may not be a bad thing because it won't be as crowded and it will take a long time before everyone is gone.

It'll be alright smile soon at least 100million will be able to have kids at least. 4/5 can soon have kids.


the number of seniros is supposed to double in the next generation
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:36 pm


Mikagi-sama
Aiko_589
according to government japan's population is DROPPING, ALOT!

very few japanese are having children, because of dropping economy japan women have to work more, and marry later!!!!!!!


also the brith rate is 1 child per adult

japan population 125,000,000

25million= 65 and over people

87milliom people= eligible to have children

13milliom people= to young to have children

a country need 2 children per couple to survive, what could happen?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?

*i MUSt have 3 daughters and a boy now*


That sucks but... as long as people have kids it will continue. But isn't Japan already over-populated like too many people per area? This may not be a bad thing because it won't be as crowded and it will take a long time before everyone is gone.

It'll be alright smile soon at least 100million will be able to have kids at least. 4/5 can soon have kids.


thats nit very smart because the 87 million will be OLD, which means non-egible to have children.

Aiko_589


Aiko_589

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:51 pm


it is the total oppisite of what you have said, mikagi
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:09 pm


Aiko_589
Mikagi-sama
Aiko_589
according to government japan's population is DROPPING, ALOT!

very few japanese are having children, because of dropping economy japan women have to work more, and marry later!!!!!!!


also the brith rate is 1 child per adult

japan population 125,000,000

25million= 65 and over people

87milliom people= eligible to have children

13milliom people= to young to have children

a country need 2 children per couple to survive, what could happen?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?

*i MUSt have 3 daughters and a boy now*


That sucks but... as long as people have kids it will continue. But isn't Japan already over-populated like too many people per area? This may not be a bad thing because it won't be as crowded and it will take a long time before everyone is gone.

It'll be alright smile soon at least 100million will be able to have kids at least. 4/5 can soon have kids.


The number of seniors is supposed to double in the next generation. That's not very smart because the 87 million will be OLD, which means non-eligable to have children.It is the total opposite of what you have said, Mikagi.


Well... the men can still have kids.

But I guess... but still... the world is over-populated. It won't hurt to have some go down. I know it is here in Canada. The sooner the population goes down the longer the younger generations have to live with materials. Don't forget how materials are descreasing due to the demand of many people.

I mean if the now generation has a kid or 2 or 3 than that's good, and the new generation can so it's all safe. A few people or a million out of 6 billion isn't that big a deal. In fact if 1/4 of the world's population went down there wouldn't be that big a deal.

That may sound mean but I mean before Japan reaches zero, it will be long after we're all dead. Like all countries are going down, it's because the baby boomer era is going dying away. Instead of looking negatively at all our countries population slowly diminishing, we should see this as good. More room, more jobs, more materials will still be available longer. That is a good thing even though the deaths of people is bad. But this is inevitable.

The seniors won't double necessarily also. People will die. Just that population and the now 40-65 year olds were born during the baby booming time which was because of the war many more children were born which over-populated countries. Life will just resume to what it was like before that but it will be better. Just maybe with jobs there may be a higher need for employees but still, maybe our jobs pay will increase too.
Just think of it like something that's been stretched for a while so that it can't shrink or return to its original size.

But this just means some places may need to close down and other jobs will be filled. At least important jobs will stay. Like with bookshelves at a library. You weed out the damaged ones and organize them and you make room and empty space in all the shelves but then you move the books over to fill the shelves with space and eventually some shelves will be empty but then you can fill them up when you get more books.

That may make no sense but I mean it like, this can be a good thing.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:17 pm


But if you also like to hear other people's thoughts you can post this in the life issue's forum and people will respond with dignified answers and responses.

That is probably one of the most well taught, intelligent forum on gaia. People will give you answers that will show their proof of opinion and it will be long but you'll get better answers. And if you like I can post this there for you.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:41 pm


I remember reading an article about this in USAToday.
They said that couples aren't having enough children to keep up with replacement rates.
The article was titled "No Sex Please, We're Japanese" stare

Basically, the economy of any capitalistic nation is dependant on the working class being replaced at an equal or increasing rate. So decreasing birth rates is bad.
(People who keep saying decreasing birth rates in over-populated Japan is a good thing just don't understand economics.)

MalfoyKoibito


Akira_Hoshino

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:30 pm


Ah, people go on about disasters like overpopulation and stuff, but I don't buy into it. It seems to me that if you look through history, every time a potential catastrophe has arisen people freak and prepare for the end of the world. (Y2K, anyone?) But then nature runs its course and everything smooths out.

I'm not denying that a disaster of overpopulation could occur (if China is any example, there's no reason the rest of the world couldn't deal with it too), but it seems to me it's one of those long-term things that might seem worth worrying about at the time but will eventually just die away. There will be rough times for overpopulated countries, but those rough times will come to an end. That's the way it always works. Life on Earth isn't easy and there's always something threatening our survival, be it a natural disaster like a tsunami or a deliberate disaster like war or terrorism. Personally I just don't worry about such things; I do what I can to help, you know, like relief funds and whatnot, but other than that I just live my life the best way I know how and don't stress about things. Trust Mother Nature, no? smile
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:13 pm


Akira_Hoshino
Ah, people go on about disasters like overpopulation and stuff, but I don't buy into it. It seems to me that if you look through history, every time a potential catastrophe has arisen people freak and prepare for the end of the world. (Y2K, anyone?) But then nature runs its course and everything smooths out.

I'm not denying that a disaster of overpopulation could occur (if China is any example, there's no reason the rest of the world couldn't deal with it too), but it seems to me it's one of those long-term things that might seem worth worrying about at the time but will eventually just die away. There will be rough times for overpopulated countries, but those rough times will come to an end. That's the way it always works. Life on Earth isn't easy and there's always something threatening our survival, be it a natural disaster like a tsunami or a deliberate disaster like war or terrorism. Personally I just don't worry about such things; I do what I can to help, you know, like relief funds and whatnot, but other than that I just live my life the best way I know how and don't stress about things. Trust Mother Nature, no? smile
good one. 3nodding

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Moenen

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:16 pm


We have the same problem here in the Netherlands. With the exception of some religious people, most couples marry later and have fewer children. The problem has nothing to do with overpopulation; as MalfoyKoibito said, it has to do with economics. If less people have less children, there's going to be a really big difference between the post-WWII generation and the younger generations; most old people today come from really big families with more than two children and they live longer because of better health care, which means it's the younger generation who will have to pay for that health care.

I don't know whow it works in Japan, but here in the Netherlands the taxes are already pretty high because everyone pays a little bit for general health care (I think I read taxes in Japan are 28% and in the Netherlands they're 35%, but I could be wrong). If by the time I'm old enough to have children there are too many old people, I'm afraid the taxes will be even higher. gonk
PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:06 am


Yeah, in highschool I had to study that... It seems that with the raise of individual behaviours and sanitary improvements, the Japanese government has to face more and more old people, and less births...
It's scary, but the same thing is happening to the rest of developed countries as well, even if the examples are less shocking.

The thing I'm worried about is that when my generation (people in their 20s) will stop working, the government won't be able to give them money because there won't be enough young people working... (sorry, completely off topic xd )

[.Suspiria.]


akirakurosawa111

PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:10 am


Akira_Hoshino
Ah, people go on about disasters like overpopulation and stuff, but I don't buy into it. It seems to me that if you look through history, every time a potential catastrophe has arisen people freak and prepare for the end of the world. (Y2K, anyone?) But then nature runs its course and everything smooths out.

I'm not denying that a disaster of overpopulation could occur (if China is any example, there's no reason the rest of the world couldn't deal with it too), but it seems to me it's one of those long-term things that might seem worth worrying about at the time but will eventually just die away. There will be rough times for overpopulated countries, but those rough times will come to an end. That's the way it always works. Life on Earth isn't easy and there's always something threatening our survival, be it a natural disaster like a tsunami or a deliberate disaster like war or terrorism. Personally I just don't worry about such things; I do what I can to help, you know, like relief funds and whatnot, but other than that I just live my life the best way I know how and don't stress about things. Trust Mother Nature, no? smile


i certaintly agree wiht you on this but i always thuoght to myself that you can not trust a perons fully so your right mother nature is the toher choice you can refer too and i have also read a article some days back in school and it said that the youth in ajapn was more of an older age than younger like kids
PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:03 am


I know that in the US, the birthrate is also dropping. People here are also having fewer children. However, I don't think our population is dropping. We get immigrants from other countries to help supplement our population and keep it up. Many of our citizens (and laborers) come from Mexico. The funny thing is, is that we're trying to keep these Mexicans OUT of our country. It doesn't make sense. Because our citizens are having fewer children, our population would be theoretically dropping, and we need some way to replace those people, and also, because Mexicans are willing to do many jobs that the average American would turn their nose up at. These jobs are essential, like planting and harvesting crops. So...Why do we want to keep these people out, when in reality, we need them for both labor and population?

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