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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:16 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:05 pm
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nobhdy ChemicalSoiree the bible says not to judge anyway! scream Yeah, organized religions really got screwed up when Martin Luther split from the church and stated: "Faith alone will get you into Heaven" That entitles people to judge you, murder you, be assholes, anything they want and they'll still get into Heaven, thus eliminating the entire purpose of religion in the first place, to keep people moral. Protestantism = Ridiculous
That is a statement of ignorance and, speaking as a Lutheran, I also find it to be offensive.
It is clear to me that you have never bothered to speak with many, if any, protestants. Don't buy solely into stereotypes.
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:11 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:39 pm
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Asexual-Slut~Enya nobhdy ChemicalSoiree the bible says not to judge anyway! scream Yeah, organized religions really got screwed up when Martin Luther split from the church and stated: "Faith alone will get you into Heaven" That entitles people to judge you, murder you, be assholes, anything they want and they'll still get into Heaven, thus eliminating the entire purpose of religion in the first place, to keep people moral. Protestantism = Ridiculous That is a statement of ignorance and, speaking as a Lutheran, I also find it to be offensive. It is clear to me that you have never bothered to speak with many, if any, protestants. Don't buy solely into stereotypes.
Agreed to a point. The people who seem to be the worst about issues like this are Baptists - notice that Fred Phelps Sr. runs the Westboro Baptist Church and it always seem to be Southern Baptists who get all riled up about this. You hardly hear about other sects like Methodism, Lutheranism or stuff like that. It always seems to be either the Baptists, the Catholics, or to some extent those weird Mormons who are weird because they're polygamist.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:06 am
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nobhdy I do not know what you are talking about. The concept of faith rather than works is one of the foundations of the entire protestant movement.
Yes, it is one of the foundations of protestantism. That does not excuse behavior that would, otherwise, be deemed unacceptable -- murder, rape, etcetera.
The premise is that works alone cannot get you into Heaven -- humans, by nature, are apt to fail. A loving God would not do that to his children, and willingly embraces them -- even despite their faults -- for simply believing in him.
Many of the more liberal Lutheran churches, like mine, have taken it one step farther by preaching that everyone, whether they believe or not, can be accepted into heaven if they have made an attempt to do more good than evil -- whether they are successful or not is irrelevent, for it is truly the thought that counts.
To sum it up, yes, faith will get you into heaven under most Protestant systems; however, that does not excuse you to do evil things.
I will not be dragged into this particular debate any longer. One more snide over-generalized statement about my religion and I will petition to have you removed from the guild and you will find your name on my ignore list.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:50 pm
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:03 pm
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:59 pm
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PhaedraMcSpiffy Emu Feathers Possibly the stupidest argument I have ever heard: "Cats and dogs don't get abortions, they have to go through with it, why are humans any different?" stare *laughs* Cats and dogs don't mate for pleasure. They also have no idea what they're doing. And on that same train of thought, they lick their asses instead of wiping! Why don't humans do that?! And last but not least, my cat did have an abortion. I'm serious. When we chose to adopt her from the shelter, she was pregnant. They want to control the pet population, so they won't let you adopt and animal that can reproduce. They terminated her pregnancy. Also, I've heard sex was painful for a cat. I've had the misfortune of hearing two of them mate outside my bedroom window one night. Coincidence of coincidences, it was on Mischief Night.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:34 pm
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:58 pm
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PhaedraMcSpiffy Emu Feathers Possibly the stupidest argument I have ever heard: "Cats and dogs don't get abortions, they have to go through with it, why are humans any different?" stare *laughs* Cats and dogs don't mate for pleasure. They also have no idea what they're doing. And on that same train of thought, they lick their asses instead of wiping! Why don't humans do that?! And last but not least, my cat did have an abortion. I'm serious. When we chose to adopt her from the shelter, she was pregnant. They want to control the pet population, so they won't let you adopt and animal that can reproduce. They terminated her pregnancy. "Some animals eat their children. Why aren't humans any different?"
*snerk*
And I actually heard somewhere that rabbits can induce abortion, and do something like reabsorb their fetuses into the body during hard times. Not positive on how factual it is though.
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:01 pm
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:30 pm
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Toga! Toga! PhaedraMcSpiffy Emu Feathers Possibly the stupidest argument I have ever heard: "Cats and dogs don't get abortions, they have to go through with it, why are humans any different?" stare *laughs* Cats and dogs don't mate for pleasure. They also have no idea what they're doing. And on that same train of thought, they lick their asses instead of wiping! Why don't humans do that?! And last but not least, my cat did have an abortion. I'm serious. When we chose to adopt her from the shelter, she was pregnant. They want to control the pet population, so they won't let you adopt and animal that can reproduce. They terminated her pregnancy. Also, I've heard sex was painful for a cat. I've had the misfortune of hearing two of them mate outside my bedroom window one night. Coincidence of coincidences, it was on Mischief Night.
Well, I did hear on a documentary that the male cat is equipped with barbs on its p***s that somehow induce ovulation....
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