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PoppyDadswell

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:56 am
i came across this christian stuff bitching about halloween.halloween they claimed is evil and that the kids should be encouraged to dress up as angels instead!i fine that disgusting,halloween is used to bright a traditionally bleak time of the year and all the kids do is dress up and go trick-or-teating.i mean before christianity the irish people believed in ghosts and that they would come out that night and food must be given to placfy them ,but really no one believes this anymore and i wish peole would lay off bitching about my country's traditional custom.surely i'm not being over the top?  
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:15 pm
Please tone down the language.

I do agree with you that much of Christianity's objections to halloween are unfounded and paranoid.  

ioioouiouiouio


vampy dave

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:36 pm
Cometh The Inquisitor
Please tone down the language.

I do agree with you that much of Christianity's objections to halloween are unfounded and paranoid.


Agreed. It's not the day of the devil or whatever. It's a day to get dressed, have fun, and get free candy! What's so wrong with that I ask. Now obviously there can be sins commited, (dressing immodestly, getting drunk, breaking the law, etc.) but that can be done at any time of the year. I just wish people would actually look at the facts before bashing something.  
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:26 pm
mistressofthelost
Cometh The Inquisitor
Please tone down the language.

I do agree with you that much of Christianity's objections to halloween are unfounded and paranoid.


Agreed. It's not the day of the devil or whatever. It's a day to get dressed, have fun, and get free candy! What's so wrong with that I ask. Now obviously there can be sins commited, (dressing immodestly, getting drunk, breaking the law, etc.) but that can be done at any time of the year. I just wish people would actually look at the facts before bashing something.
thirded! Even if it's based in witchcraft or whatever, (I'm not actually sure where it originated, I've heard so many things ^^; ) most kids (and.. just people) don't know that... they just think it's all just good fun. So what's wrong with that?  

Guacamole-kun


ioioouiouiouio

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:08 pm
Guacamole-kun
Even if it's based in witchcraft or whatever, (I'm not actually sure where it originated, I've heard so many things ^^; )

Before anyone even tries to bring this arguement up, please remember that both Christmas and Easter had their dates chosen to coincide with local pagan celebrations.  
PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:20 pm
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I say it's just a marketed thing now. A time when candy makers get lots of doe. I like Halloween, even though I'm to old to get candy, but old enough to go to late night parties! Woo! X3
I doesn't matter where, how, and why it oprignated from anymore because it's just another celibration day. We don't celibrate it for those purposes anymore. If that's all we treat it as, then that's all it is to us.

Kitty teh bread.
 

Seority


starry_mist

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:01 pm
halloween came about from all hallows eve when spirits were said to walk the earth. halloween is just a fun way to celebrate it with out getting too involved. it didn't really have to do with witchcraft in the first place  
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:15 pm
my parents never let me celebrate halloween...but in elementry school we got to stay home that day and do something special and fun! ^_^ *they usually had parties in elementry school for halloween*
When i grow up i'm probably going to encourage going to a festival party at a church and letting my kids *if i have any* dress up there and get all the candy they want smile That way everyone is happy...and you take out the scary people who put razors in candy >_<
I remember once when i was little and we went to the festival party*it was on halloween*..it was SOOO much FUN! There was this HUGE room..the lights where turned off and a bunch of people made this maze out of cardboard boxes. It was great! And the hayrides and everything! woot! ^_^  

Siren of Saturn


Atarashi No Sensei

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:07 am
As long as you have good intentions and a good motive on Halloween, you're okay.  
PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:22 pm
As an ex-pagan, I can say that Halloween is *definetally* a pagan holiday. It's called Samhain. Has been, and is reason why All Soul's Day is celebrated the day after. (Catholic Church trying to accomidate local populace and all that. Same as Christmas and Easter. Look it up.)
HOWEVER, we are Christians, not pagans. We are not celebrating a pagan holiday as such. We are celebrating a dress-up and eat-candy day.
As long as you are only celebrating it as a dress-up and eat-candy day, what sin is there in it? As long as you don't go trying to mess with spirits or something...! wink  

Kittey-chan


Stxitxchxes

PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:28 pm
that_fairy
As an ex-pagan, I can say that Halloween is *definetally* a pagan holiday. It's called Samhain. Has been, and is reason why All Soul's Day is celebrated the day after. (Catholic Church trying to accomidate local populace and all that. Same as Christmas and Easter. Look it up.)
HOWEVER, we are Christians, not pagans. We are not celebrating a pagan holiday as such. We are celebrating a dress-up and eat-candy day.
As long as you are only celebrating it as a dress-up and eat-candy day, what sin is there in it? As long as you don't go trying to mess with spirits or something...! wink


Here's a novel thought.

Treat it as a secular holiday.  
PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:29 pm
Stxitxchxes
Here's a novel thought.

Treat it as a secular holiday.

Just because something is secular doesn't automatically make it bad.  

ioioouiouiouio


Jackolantirn

Newbie Noob

PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:58 pm
I think this may be useful... It's useful for me...
Romans 14 (New International Version)

The Weak and the Strong
1Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. 2One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. 4Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
5One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. 8If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.

9For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. 10You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. 11It is written:
" 'As surely as I live,' says the Lord,
'every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will confess to God.' " 12So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God.

13Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way. 14As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean. 15If your brother is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother for whom Christ died. 16Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. 17For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men.

19Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall.

22So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:43 pm
Cometh The Inquisitor
Stxitxchxes
Here's a novel thought.

Treat it as a secular holiday.

Just because something is secular doesn't automatically make it bad.


Hence why I suggested it.  

Stxitxchxes


ioioouiouiouio

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:49 pm
that_fairy
As an ex-pagan, I can say that Halloween is *definetally* a pagan holiday. It's called Samhain.

That doesn't mean that Halloween is a pagan holiday, it means that Samhain is a pagan holiday. The two are just on the same day.  
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