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 Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:30 am
Is there a reason that the Force should not be used in battles? I don't believe so, but I do not want to argue this point every time a SWU char. is involved. If so, then I guess we won't make threads with SWU characters, its totally unfair to me. The anonymous arguements I've seen are: Quote: Hate to pull this cheap card, but unless they fight in the Star Wars Universe, The Force is basically useless. And reguardless of what universe they're in, Luke can't force manipulate Spidey or anything on his person because they lack Midichlorians. If this is a fair assess ment, pls tell me. If so, then I need to submit in this arguement.
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:39 am
The hell? I don't see why the force shouldn't be allowed in versus battles.
What some people fail to realize about versus threads is that unless it is specifically designated otherwise from the start, both characters' universe characteristics are being incorporated.
And I've seen Vader force choke his admiral, a normal human being, for incompetence. That guy sure as hell didn't have Midichlorians.
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Saiyan Master Vegeta Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:01 am
I really don't see why not. I think it's very unfair to SW characters. Kind of like not letting Goku use his ki.
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:00 am
Saiyan Master Vegeta The hell? I don't see why the force shouldn't be allowed in versus battles. What some people fail to realize about versus threads is that unless it is specifically designated otherwise from the start, both characters' universe characteristics are being incorporated. And I've seen Vader force choke his admiral, a normal human being, for incompetence. That guy sure as hell didn't have Midichlorians.
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:12 am
A rule of thumb: in a "cross-dimensional" roleplay, unless it's stated otherwise, it's generally assumed that the different aspects of all universes involved are being included. If you're magically leaving out all Star Wars universe technology and phenomena, then Luke Skywalker shouldn't be able to use his Lightsaber, either.
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:29 pm
Mr.Mxyzptlk Saiyan Master Vegeta The hell? I don't see why the force shouldn't be allowed in versus battles. What some people fail to realize about versus threads is that unless it is specifically designated otherwise from the start, both characters' universe characteristics are being incorporated. And I've seen Vader force choke his admiral, a normal human being, for incompetence. That guy sure as hell didn't have Midichlorians. My mistake, but it doesn't take away from the fact that both universes are being incorporated to suit both characters.
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:15 pm
Mr.Mxyzptlk Saiyan Master Vegeta The hell? I don't see why the force shouldn't be allowed in versus battles. What some people fail to realize about versus threads is that unless it is specifically designated otherwise from the start, both characters' universe characteristics are being incorporated. And I've seen Vader force choke his admiral, a normal human being, for incompetence. That guy sure as hell didn't have Midichlorians. And so you sed everything in the SWU have Midichlotians, so its safe to say if spider man was to fight say vader, yo uhave to combine both worlds, so SPidy will have Midichlorians as well, who sed he did not?
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:37 pm
That person shall remain anonymous, although it is in the VS section
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:45 pm
rikeen90 That person shall remain anonymous, although it is in the VS section I just have a feeling that someone's going to blurt the name out, eventually: Possible Scenario Oh, well I completely agree/disagree with 's force concept.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:29 pm
Darkphoenix Mr.Mxyzptlk Saiyan Master Vegeta The hell? I don't see why the force shouldn't be allowed in versus battles. What some people fail to realize about versus threads is that unless it is specifically designated otherwise from the start, both characters' universe characteristics are being incorporated. And I've seen Vader force choke his admiral, a normal human being, for incompetence. That guy sure as hell didn't have Midichlorians. And so you sed everything in the SWU have Midichlotians, so its safe to say if spider man was to fight say vader, yo uhave to combine both worlds, so SPidy will have Midichlorians as well, who sed he did not?
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:52 pm
Mr.Mxyzptlk Darkphoenix Mr.Mxyzptlk Saiyan Master Vegeta The hell? I don't see why the force shouldn't be allowed in versus battles. What some people fail to realize about versus threads is that unless it is specifically designated otherwise from the start, both characters' universe characteristics are being incorporated. And I've seen Vader force choke his admiral, a normal human being, for incompetence. That guy sure as hell didn't have Midichlorians. And so you sed everything in the SWU have Midichlotians, so its safe to say if spider man was to fight say vader, yo uhave to combine both worlds, so SPidy will have Midichlorians as well, who sed he did not? And this is bad...Because? Otherwise you take away the abilities of one side or both sides.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:52 pm
Actualy, Mxy, that's what people tend to do. Like if they'res a Naruto character who absorbs chakra, you asume that it would work on someone outside of Naruto, or if there's, say, an attack/device that makes youre Rei energy explode and kill you, it would be asumed to work on someone outside of Yu Yu hakusho. A specific example I can think of is I remmber people saying that Sephiroth could use decend hartless angle(which takes away MP) on a Naruto character, thus depleting their chakra, without protest.
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:35 pm
If everyone has something in one world, then it's generally assumed that everyone has it in any other world... atleast, after the moment they cross over.
This should go without saying, IMHO...
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:38 am
I had been thinking that not everything in the SW universe had midichlorians. That sentient beings had them, and force users had more. You see, I was thinking that the midichlorians just let people manipulate the force that naturally existed everywhere. A rock wouldn't have to have them, because you don't see many rocks using the mind trick, or force pushing people.
Even if I'm wrong it wouldn't be too much of a blow to Jedi's in vs. debates. If your opponent doesn't have the force in them to be manipulated, but the air they're breathing does then you can still force push them, or force choke them, or force lightning them. The only thing that would be lost here would be mental manipulation.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:50 am
In a VS Thread it is assumed that the battle takes place in an environment in which both combatants can have the full use of thier powers. Suggesting otherwise wise means the opponent can not think of an easier way to have his side win. It is bad form.
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