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~Moi-meme-Moitie~
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:20 am




.::.†.::. Rumors / Facts .::.†.::.




Okay, like alot of people in this world, Makoto and I hate being wrong. We can't stand it, and as with any genre of music in the world, there are many rumors and misuderstandings with Jrock.

So, I have created this thread. If there is anything that you would like to find out, post it here. Like, if one Jrock information site says something about a band or band member, and then another site says something completly contradicting that, and you want know which is true, post it here.

Either Makoto and I will look into it or one of the other members may know.



Quote:

.::. "Lola" .::.


"Lola" is often claimed to be a Malice Mizer song. This is not true. It was sung by Gackt during his time in Malice Mizer, but it was a side project.

"Lola" isn't even the true title of the song. It is "Kizudarake no Lora"

Quote:
"I would like to state now that this song is not a Gackt song, it is actually a Hideki Saijo cover in which Fumihiko Kitsutaka (and his band "Fumihiko Kitsutaka and Friends!" or "X.Y.Z. -> A") covered with Gackt C. on vocals."


[ Credit goes to Makoto for finding this, and to the person who wrote that ^ ]




dixieme

.::. Mislabelled songs .::.


People mislabelled things on file sharing services all the time. Below is a list I found from scape.sc Though there are more mislabelled songs out there...

-scape-

Songs are often mislabelled on file sharing services. Here are some of the most common mislabellings:
Phantasmic Organ (unmei no deai)
Ruoni Kenshin (kyomu no naka de no yuugi)
Thinking Under The Moon (gekka no yasoukyoku)
gekka no yasoukyoku - sometimes mislabelled as Gackt instead of Malice Mizer
Illness Illusion - sometimes mislabelled as Malice Mizer instead of Gackt
Leyata - Le ciel
Remixes - There have been no official remixes of Malice Mizer or Moi dix Mois. Any you find are fan-made creations. Some songs do exist in different versions for the album vs. the single, but there is no "[name]'s Remix" version of any song.
Moi dix Mois PVs - no official ones exist, only fan-made ones.


[Credit goes to Makoto for finding this and to scape.sc]


PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:24 am


And I thought it was when he was in Cains:Feel.

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dixieme
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:41 pm


GrumbleCakes
And I thought it was when he was in Cains:Feel.


Nope. *nods* It was during his Malice Mizer career. Though many people also asume it was released during his solo career. O_o
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:11 am


Updated! Check first post ^__^

dixieme
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glakjgoweqefds

PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:21 pm


[Note: I'm reposting this that I wrote for another guild]

Okay, I decided to list out all the songs I know to have been titled with false names, whether it be by wrong artist or title If you know any yourself, tell me.


Here is the format

#.) "False name" by *group name* = "Real name" by *real group name*
Album: *insert album name here*
Note: (optional)



Note that if it is not an album and is instead a single, put that in parentheses next to the album/whatever name. Here are those that I have found so far.

What I know to be true


1.) " _tweaker remix" by Dir en grey = "「S」 (Z-Z Mix)" by Dir en grey
Album: Cage (single)
Note: This is a remix made by Chris Vrenna of Nine inch Nails. I have no clue where anyone got tweaker from. Anyway, it was on Dir en grey's Cage single.


2.) "Beauty" by MALICE MIZER = "Uruwashiki Kamen no Shoutaijou" by MALICE MIZER
Album: Uruwashiki Kamen no Shoutaijou (single)


3.) "Scars" by Dir en grey = "Scars" by X Japan
Album: DAHLIA


4.) "Virginity" by Dir en grey (or X Japan) = "Virginity" by Violet UK
Album: (I don't remember right now)
Note: This track was done on a Violet UK prototype single with Yoshiki and one of his friends. (Which happens to be some guy from the technopop group "globe".)


5.) "Bel Air" by MALICE MIZER = "VERU EERU ~Kuuhaku no shunkan (toki) no naka de~" by MALICE MIZER
Album: merveilles
Note: In everything but the album (meaning the single and the film), it was titled with "shunkan no naka de". The album gave it the official title of "toki no naka de". If that's not true, then it's possible it means the same thing. Also, it is not entirely known if "VERU EERU" means "Bel air" or "Velt aile". Personally, I think it MAY be Bel air, but who knows. I didn't write the song. >_<


6) "Shiroi" by Gackt = "Shiroi hada ni kuruu aitou kanashimi no RONDO" by MALICE MIZER
Album: Bara no Seidou
Note: Yes, that is a ******** long title. I just wanted you to know that it's not like the two part Gackt era titles with the "~'s". It's one full title, Not just Shiroi. Also, Gackt HAD NO PART IN THIS SONG. I never want to see that when I'm downloading again. Some people give Gackt way too much credit. >_<;;;


7.) "Leeca" by Gackt & MALICE MIZER = "Leeca ~prologue~" by Gackt
Album: Mizérable


8.) "Tragedy Night" by Dir en grey = "Sangeki no Yoru" by Dir en grey
Album: 「楓」~if trans・・・~ (video)
Note: This is not "Kiri to Mayu" from the MISSA ep. Same song, but different lyrics. "Sangeki no yoru" is basically translated into "tragedy night", but I just wanted you to know what the title's real name was because everyone thinks its original title was "Tragedy night."


9.) "Gothique" by MALICE MIZER = "Seinaru toki eien no inori" by MALICE MIZER
Album: Bara no Seidou
Note: ...Um. Where the hell did Gothique come from? D=





Things I don't know


1.) "Rain" by Dir en grey = "????" by ????
Album: ????
Note: I have no clue who did this song, but it sure the hell isn't Dir en grey. I first thought it was Luna Sea, but now I don't know at all. I found it on Limewire and never figured out what the real name or composer was. If you know, tell me. If you need the song to help determine, ask me for my msn screename and I will give it to you. It is a very nice song by the way. o.o-





Other things


-"Caged Drain" is NOT A SONG. Someone just stuck the opening of "Cage"
by Dir en grey to "Drain" by X Japan.


-The "ILLUMINATI" live during the merveilles tour did NOT include Dir en Grey. I don't know what people where thinking when they said that. >_>;;;


-"ILLUMINATI" and "ILLUMINATI [P-type]" do have differences. One is a prototype with less realistic noises (Hence the name [P-type]) on a single, and the other is a full and perfected version released on the "merveilles" album.



Oh yes, if you have a doubt on any song's information, I will do my best to help you out in finding what's true about it. =3 Always here to help (or be an a**, whichever one you think is a better idea). >=B



-【 朔。】
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:37 pm


Quote:
-The "ILLUMINATI" live during the merveilles tour did NOT include Dir en Grey. I don't know what people where thinking when they said that. >_>;;;


I was wodnering about this one too but than i looked at the clip, it shwos that Közi has short red hair (like Die has). so that put the link

YamiBakura


dixieme
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:57 pm


YamiBakura
Quote:
-The "ILLUMINATI" live during the merveilles tour did NOT include Dir en Grey. I don't know what people where thinking when they said that. >_>;;;


I was wodnering about this one too but than i looked at the clip, it shwos that Közi has short red hair (like Die has). so that put the link


Woooah Közi did not have red hair during ILLUMINATI live during the merveilles tour. O_____O It was black.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:06 pm


dixieme
YamiBakura
Quote:
-The "ILLUMINATI" live during the merveilles tour did NOT include Dir en Grey. I don't know what people where thinking when they said that. >_>;;;


I was wodnering about this one too but than i looked at the clip, it shwos that Közi has short red hair (like Die has). so that put the link


Woooah Közi did not have red hair during ILLUMINATI live during the merveilles tour. O_____O It was black.

I think people mistook Kami ('cause of the long hair) for Shinya and Yu~ki for Kyo or Die...

[.Dix.ana.du.]


YamiBakura

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:23 pm


dixieme
YamiBakura
Quote:
-The "ILLUMINATI" live during the merveilles tour did NOT include Dir en Grey. I don't know what people where thinking when they said that. >_>;;;


I was wodnering about this one too but than i looked at the clip, it shwos that Közi has short red hair (like Die has). so that put the link


Woooah Közi did not have red hair during ILLUMINATI live during the merveilles tour. O_____O It was black.
i am ABSOLUTELY sure it was either kozi or Yu~ki, one had red hair xP

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ok, Y~ki xP
PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:02 pm


I can tell by facial features now. xD

glakjgoweqefds


dixieme
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:03 pm


YamiBakura
dixieme
YamiBakura
Quote:
-The "ILLUMINATI" live during the merveilles tour did NOT include Dir en Grey. I don't know what people where thinking when they said that. >_>;;;


I was wodnering about this one too but than i looked at the clip, it shwos that Közi has short red hair (like Die has). so that put the link


Woooah Közi did not have red hair during ILLUMINATI live during the merveilles tour. O_____O It was black.
i am ABSOLUTELY sure it was either kozi or Yu~ki, one had red hair xP

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/sailwestward/illuminati.jpg
ok, Y~ki xP


That's orange. O____O not red. xP
PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:06 pm


Sanctaphrax
I can tell by facial features now. xD


yeah same here. xP Before I couldn't tell Yu~Ki and Kozi apart. XD I now realize how stupid I was XDD

and you seriously can't mistake Malice Mizer for Dir en grey at all. O___O They're faces, hair and clothes are nothing like dir en grey has ever wore unless I've misssed something along the way. o.o

dixieme
Vice Captain


glakjgoweqefds

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:06 pm


dixieme
Sanctaphrax
I can tell by facial features now. xD


yeah same here. xP Before I couldn't tell Yu~Ki and Kozi apart. XD I now realize how stupid I was XDD

and you seriously can't mistake Malice Mizer for Dir en grey at all. O___O They're faces, hair and clothes are nothing like dir en grey has ever wore unless I've misssed something along the way. o.o
Nope. They never did. =o
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:26 pm


Sanctaphrax
dixieme
Sanctaphrax
I can tell by facial features now. xD


yeah same here. xP Before I couldn't tell Yu~Ki and Kozi apart. XD I now realize how stupid I was XDD

and you seriously can't mistake Malice Mizer for Dir en grey at all. O___O They're faces, hair and clothes are nothing like dir en grey has ever wore unless I've misssed something along the way. o.o
Nope. They never did. =o


Kick a**. I'm right. XD

dixieme
Vice Captain


glakjgoweqefds

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:50 pm


dixieme
Sanctaphrax
dixieme
Sanctaphrax
I can tell by facial features now. xD


yeah same here. xP Before I couldn't tell Yu~Ki and Kozi apart. XD I now realize how stupid I was XDD

and you seriously can't mistake Malice Mizer for Dir en grey at all. O___O They're faces, hair and clothes are nothing like dir en grey has ever wore unless I've misssed something along the way. o.o
Nope. They never did. =o


Kick a**. I'm right. XD
You're good like that are you? x3
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