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 Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:48 pm
I am so praying that most of you are going to say Amen and Yes, but I have heard different christian leaders and even some christian personalities promoting the idea that while Jesus is the divine vehicle of salvation for christians, He is not for other religions and the other religions have their own way to salvation and that's okay too.
I believe Jesus is the only way to salvation. I disagree that God has provided other religions paths that lead to him.
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:48 pm
Ephesians 2:20 correlated with Acts 4:11-12. That I hold fast to ^.^. Quote: Ephesians 2:20 (King James Version) King James Version (KJV) Public Domain 20And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; Quote: Acts 4:11-12 (King James Version) King James Version (KJV) Public Domain 11This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
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LearningtoBreath63 Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:42 pm
I disagree. The way to be right with God I believe is through being a good person. I believe this for 2 reasons. Firstly being that not all people have the knowledge of Christ or the ability to reach him. People might not know about Jesus or might not be able to follow him because of how their religion works. Converting in some religions can get people killed. Now secondly, just because you believe in God and Jesus doesn't mean your Christian. Look at Hitler, he was Christian, but do you think he's going to Heaven?
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:22 am
You can't deny the verses on top. Jesus specifically said I am the way the truth and the life. Nobody comes to the Father except through me.
Also just being a good person means you are trying to get to heaven by good works which the Bible is against. Jesus didn't say exept through Paul, he Didn't say except through king David, he said except through me. Me being Jesus Christ.
Hitler was not a Christian. He wanted to destroy the Jewish race. He helped kill over 6 million jewish people. Also he killed many christians. I would say he is more of an anti-christ.
1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Romans 3:26
To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus
Also about the good person thing.
Romans 3:27
Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Yes I believe you are supposd to be good to other people, but you shouldn't think it will get you to heaven.
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:38 am
OutkasTeen I disagree. The way to be right with God I believe is through being a good person. I believe this for 2 reasons. Firstly being that not all people have the knowledge of Christ or the ability to reach him. People might not know about Jesus or might not be able to follow him because of how their religion works. Converting in some religions can get people killed. Now secondly, just because you believe in God and Jesus doesn't mean your Christian. Look at Hitler, he was Christian, but do you think he's going to Heaven? Read Acts 1:8. "Utter most..." As it stands, you disagree with provided verses, blatantly telling the only way is by/ through Jesus.
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:15 pm
OutkasTeen I disagree. The way to be right with God I believe is through being a good person. I believe this for 2 reasons. Firstly being that not all people have the knowledge of Christ or the ability to reach him. People might not know about Jesus or might not be able to follow him because of how their religion works. Converting in some religions can get people killed. Now secondly, just because you believe in God and Jesus doesn't mean your Christian. Look at Hitler, he was Christian, but do you think he's going to Heaven? If good works made us right with God, Jesus would not have died to save us from our sins. I also believe that God does everything in his power to make known who Jesus is to everyone, but the tough part is Jesus said not everyone would choose to follow him. Converting to christianity at the risk of death happens all over the world. In fact one of the largest christian churches in the world is in communist china - recently the communist china government killed many christians at an underground gathering of 10000. Everything stated in the nicene creed is what my entire belief in Jesus is based on and also in Gal. 5:22 is a nice list of the fruits of the Holy Spirit and those fruits are produced in christians. Hitler definitely was producing the opposite.
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:22 pm
The Nicene Creed
We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
I'm not saying that all christian churches have to recite the above to be christian, but I find the nicene creed is a nice way to sum up the faith.
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:28 pm
OutkasTeen I disagree. The way to be right with God I believe is through being a good person. I believe this for 2 reasons. Firstly being that not all people have the knowledge of Christ or the ability to reach him. People might not know about Jesus or might not be able to follow him because of how their religion works. Converting in some religions can get people killed. Now secondly, just because you believe in God and Jesus doesn't mean your Christian. Look at Hitler, he was Christian, but do you think he's going to Heaven?  Being a good person isn't good enough! You need to believe in, trust in, and have faith in Jesus Christ! Read the verses the others posted! Jesus is the ONLY way to the Father. NOBODY comes to the Father except through HIM. And as for the people around the world who have never heard of Christ...why do you think missionaries exist? They are out there, all over the world trying to share the Gospel to people. Yes, converting is a high form of blasphemy in some religions. But when people discover who Jesus is, how He died for them, how He loves them, and the incredible joy He gives, they can't HELP but risk their lives to tell other people about it. You should definately read "Jesus Freaks" by DC Talk and also by The Voice of the Martyrs. It's got many great, true stories about people who died for Jesus. Some of the stories were about people who converted from Islam, which is blasphemy to the Muslims and the penalty is death. But once the people knew Jesus, they just couldn't stop themselves from preaching about Him to others. I'm serious, you should totally get this book. It has inspired me so much, and I know it will inspire you.
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:34 pm
Jesus is the only way to salvation. And as for Hilter being a Christain I doubt it. He had the apperance of Christianity. But like someone else said, if you could get to heaven based on good deeds and being a good person, Jesus would have never had to die for us.
And before you say how can I say it was an appearance of Christianty. I plan on making a thread in the main forum about it.
And as for converting, once you learn the good news about Jesus you'll risk it. I risked the hate of my family upon me for Jesus and I risked the relationship between me and my brother and me and my sister. I knew evetually we'd be ok but I wouldn't be ok if I denied Jesus and said what I was doing was wrong and then died only a few moments after. I would have went to hell. Now my brother talks to me, like really talks to me. He even told me he loved me the other day on the phone, something he's never done. Jesus is taking care of it because I didn't deny him. My sister left home and is no longer living like a christian. She promises it has nothing to do with. We got in a fight and didn't talk for three weeks, now I'm watching her kid again. ANd I still call randomly and say I love her. And I know in time, Jesus will work in there too. Point is once you know the good news about Jesus it's hard to deny it if possible. You just want to tell anyone, no matter the cost because it's so great. And you have faith in it once you know the good news. And no matter the risk that are possible your faith in what you heard is stronger than any doubt.
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:23 am
I believe Jesus is the only way to heaven!!!!! By believeing on Him asking forgiveness of all sins and believing He is Lord 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:28 pm
Ephesians 2:8-9
By the grace of God may you are saved, NOT BY WORKS, lest anyone should boast.
Romans 10:9
If you confess with your mouth that jesus is loord, and believe in your heart that jesus is lord, you will be saved
OVERALL, i believe the only way to heaven, is through jesus, which is why he is our SAVIOR!!!
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:31 pm
BandFreakJo By the grace of God may you are saved, NOT BY WORKS, lest anyone should boast. Romans 10:9 If you confess with your mouth that jesus is loord, and believe in your heart that jesus is lord, you will be saved OVERALL, i believe the only way to heaven, is through jesus, which is why he is our SAVIOR!!! Ephesians 2:8-9 I have been looking for that verse for so long, thanks.
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 2:09 pm
ha, ur welcome, i looked for it for a long time to, i just found it 2 weeks ago and hung it on my door smile good verse...
anyways, besides the point smile
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:50 pm
Allythea The Nicene Creed We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered death and was buried. On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen. I'm not saying that all christian churches have to recite the above to be christian, but I find the nicene creed is a nice way to sum up the faith. Is not the creed held exclusively by those in the Catholic faith?
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:56 pm
Skiddishfit Allythea The Nicene Creed We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered death and was buried. On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen. I'm not saying that all christian churches have to recite the above to be christian, but I find the nicene creed is a nice way to sum up the faith. Is not the creed held exclusively by those in the Catholic faith? The Roman catholic church and Anglican church recite the nicene creed. The Roman catholic consider Anglicans and other denominations to be Protestant. Some Anglicans call themselves catholic. I am not sure about other denoms reciting the nicene creed.
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