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Shadow Alchemist815

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:53 pm


I think Tifa is Beautiful in my eyes.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:39 pm


I wish I could date her xp

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GlovesAndMittens

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:46 pm


Me too.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:25 pm


I would think a lot of people would... And that includes me!

Naruto_Kitsune


VincentVII

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:45 pm


so would i. in a heartbeat.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:12 pm


Tifa is a wonderful person. She always puts others before herself, and she's considerate of other's feelings. Tifa is a wonderful mother to the children, and a wonderful spouse to Cloud. She's a great fighter ( I always had her with me on the game) and a key character.

A u l a i r r e


Shadow Alchemist815

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:17 pm


If i could i would marry her
PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:56 am


She's really up there in my top 10 list of anime/video game/manga women.

Not only is she beautiful, whether she has her large breasts of FF7 or the reduced normal ones of AC, she is well fit. She trains often, so it is no surprise as to how she has a slim yet powerful body.
Apart from her body, she is also a very kind and caring person. When Aeris was, somewhat flirting with Cloud, it is not like Tifa went in, beat up Aeris, and told her that Cloud was hers and hers only. She let her flirt, and let them be together so long as it was love that held them together, despite her deep feelings for the man she obviously loves. She has a motherly soul, wanting to take care of her friends and to make sure they are safe. She also has one of a fighter. Just because she asked Cloud to be there if she needed help, she only wanted that because she wanted to have the comfort of knowing that someone had her back in her life, not as if she would cower behind him if there was a fight. No, she went in the front lines to fight all she had, even as a child against Sephiroth when he killed her father, despite the astronomical odds of her defeating him at that point in time. She almost died to avenge her father, and almost did again on the final encounter against Sephiroth in the game.
Then, after all that, she helped orphans. She f*cking helped orphans! She gave away time she could use to hit on Cloud, and in what terms that Tifa-haters/bashers use "be a slut," she did the kindest thing in the world and helped children who had no where else to go, and no one else to help them.


Anyone who could hate anyone like that is beyond me. Please, if you hate her, send me hate mail. I'd sure like to read them. Because it is the driving force that allows me to type things like this, and put holes in my walls in a way that'd make her proud.

Peace Out,
Jhay-R Gali Aspuria



P.S. Seriously, send me hate mail if you do. I don't mind, they're less annoying than Chains....

Jhay-R


Saki Shadow

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:56 am


I want to look like her. Having those cool pretty pink eyes would be awesome.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:32 pm


If I were a guy I would totally kick Cloud's a** to date Tifa. "Out of the way blondy she's mine." heart twisted

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Shadow Alchemist815

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:04 pm


Forget about kickin' clouds a** i'd kill him just to marry tifa.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:21 pm


Come on, guys!! I mean, I respect your opinions and everything, but do you remember what she was like in FF7? Here is a list that my friends and I made:

1. She leaves a child in charge of a bar that is located in Midgar slums. ....What the hell?! And that's bad on Barret's part, too. Marlene could have been mugged or raped, and this shows that both Tifa and Barret are very irresponsible. (BTW, Barret admits to his irresponsibility, and I like him, so he gets away with it on my part.)

2. When Aeris came with Cloud to save Tifa from Don Corneo, Tifa is rude to both of them. I think this shows Tifa's need to be the center of attention, especially in front of Cloud. And I know I wouldn't be awful to someone who's come to help me!

3. She's a very boring and dull character, and people usually like her only for her looks. She never really does anything eventful, either.

4. Her overall presence just irks me. (why is her chest so huge?)

5. She makes herself out to be Cloud's best childhood friend, but she wasn't really friends with him until all the other boys were gone from Nibelheim. She and her friends were never nice to Cloud when he really needed friends. This shows that Tifa is dillusional.

6. Okay, Beat Rush takes only 30 hp from an enemy..? And what the hell do dolphins have to do with Tifa?! I mean, her hair does look like the tail fin of a fish at the end of it..but..

7. Her attire of clothing. Rikku pulls it off. Tifa doesn't.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:27 am


squeezedlemon
Come on, guys!! I mean, I respect your opinions and everything, but do you remember what she was like in FF7? Here is a list that my friends and I made:

1. She leaves a child in charge of a bar that is located in Midgar slums. ....What the hell?! And that's bad on Barret's part, too. Marlene could have been mugged or raped, and this shows that both Tifa and Barret are very irresponsible. (BTW, Barret admits to his irresponsibility, and I like him, so he gets away with it on my part.)

2. When Aeris came with Cloud to save Tifa from Don Corneo, Tifa is rude to both of them. I think this shows Tifa's need to be the center of attention, especially in front of Cloud. And I know I wouldn't be awful to someone who's come to help me!

3. She's a very boring and dull character, and people usually like her only for her looks. She never really does anything eventful, either.

4. Her overall presence just irks me. (why is her chest so huge?)

5. She makes herself out to be Cloud's best childhood friend, but she wasn't really friends with him until all the other boys were gone from Nibelheim. She and her friends were never nice to Cloud when he really needed friends. This shows that Tifa is dillusional.

6. Okay, Beat Rush takes only 30 hp from an enemy..? And what the hell do dolphins have to do with Tifa?! I mean, her hair does look like the tail fin of a fish at the end of it..but..

7. Her attire of clothing. Rikku pulls it off. Tifa doesn't.


Interesting, but some of your points are a tad weak and only based on opinion. Here are just my thoughts (and a few corrections here and there) with regards to your list.

1.) The whole 'leaving a four year old in charge of a bar' thing rather irked me too, but I'm guessing that Avalanche's reputation kept Marlene safe for the most part. Not many people would want to face the wrath of an angry and emotionally charged Barret and Tifa. Not when they have bombs that can destroy reactors. sweatdrop That, and Tifa does care quite a bit about Marlene, despite doing this. She practically raises the girl while Barret spends long periods of time away looking for another source of energy in the events prior and during Advent Children.

2.) Tifa originally didn't know it was Cloud in that dress, but once she found out, she and Aerith actually sort of 'clicked' and became much more friendly. She only acted rude because they were strangers that suddenly came in, and she had no idea whether they were real prostitutes or people in disguise. Keep in mind, the only reason Tifa was there was to get information from Don Corneo and beat him into a pulp soon afterwards. Before finding out that Aerith was with Cloud, who was on her side, she considered them as an obstacle to get past to attain what she needed.

3.) This was purely your opinion on whether she was dull or boring. She actually DOES have much going for her, but you'll never notice if you don't pay attention to her and continue to look at her negatively. She's caring and very motherly, but is also rather feisty and more than ready to kick butt for what she believes in. There's a lot more to her character that you're missing.

4.) Meh, I don't like it that she's really busty either, but you've got Tetsuya Nomura to blame for that. It's not her fault she apppeared the way she did. That, and some girls naturally have big breasts, but get bothered about it all the time because they don't 'fit it.' It's not fair to Tifa to dislike her because of her cupsize, just as it isn't fair to ostracize a girl because her breasts seem unnaturally large.

5.) Cloud is the one that made them out to be best friends, since he was so messed up in the head. Tifa had no real choice but to go along with it, otherwise he might suffer from a serious mental breakdown. If she didn't go along with the act, Cloud would know something was up, and then issues would arise that would impede on the group's ability to function. Particularly Cloud's ability to act as a leader.

6.) What does her limit breaks have to do with her? Have you even levelled her up? Beat Rush does a lot more than thirty damage. As for the dolphin one... It's kind of like how one might wonder why Cid would constantly carry sticks of dynamite with him if he's a pilot who smokes. Sometimes, it's just better not to ask.

7.) Tifa's only wearing the basic fashion trend for young girls her age in Midgar (you'll notice some other NPC's will dress similarly). Again, Tifa didn't choose her clothes, Nomura did. This is a rather lame reason to dislike a character, as if someone hated Aerith because her dress was pink. :/ They're very unconventional for a martial artist, but she eventually changes into something much more comfortable (and conservative) in Advent Children, since she's not living in a slum anymore.

Technically, I can always find at least one (or ten) things that I'll like about a character, so I'm definitely okay with Tifa.

It also helps if I find them fun to draw. ninja

That aside, it's okay to have a differing opinion, but some of the things you said are not exactly based on fact, but more of your interpretation on how you see her character based mostly on opinion.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:36 am


I'll admit, she's cute, but she's not my favorite from ff7...

Kuroda Teru


Squeezed Lemon

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:25 am


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squeezedlemon
Come on, guys!! I mean, I respect your opinions and everything, but do you remember what she was like in FF7? Here is a list that my friends and I made:

1. She leaves a child in charge of a bar that is located in Midgar slums. ....What the hell?! And that's bad on Barret's part, too. Marlene could have been mugged or raped, and this shows that both Tifa and Barret are very irresponsible. (BTW, Barret admits to his irresponsibility, and I like him, so he gets away with it on my part.)

2. When Aeris came with Cloud to save Tifa from Don Corneo, Tifa is rude to both of them. I think this shows Tifa's need to be the center of attention, especially in front of Cloud. And I know I wouldn't be awful to someone who's come to help me!

3. She's a very boring and dull character, and people usually like her only for her looks. She never really does anything eventful, either.

4. Her overall presence just irks me. (why is her chest so huge?)

5. She makes herself out to be Cloud's best childhood friend, but she wasn't really friends with him until all the other boys were gone from Nibelheim. She and her friends were never nice to Cloud when he really needed friends. This shows that Tifa is dillusional.

6. Okay, Beat Rush takes only 30 hp from an enemy..? And what the hell do dolphins have to do with Tifa?! I mean, her hair does look like the tail fin of a fish at the end of it..but..

7. Her attire of clothing. Rikku pulls it off. Tifa doesn't.


Interesting, but some of your points are a tad weak and only based on opinion. Here are just my thoughts (and a few corrections here and there) with regards to your list.

1.) The whole 'leaving a four year old in charge of a bar' thing rather irked me too, but I'm guessing that Avalanche's reputation kept Marlene safe for the most part. Not many people would want to face the wrath of an angry and emotionally charged Barret and Tifa. Not when they have bombs that can destroy reactors. sweatdrop That, and Tifa does care quite a bit about Marlene, despite doing this. She practically raises the girl while Barret spends long periods of time away looking for another source of energy in the events prior and during Advent Children.

2.) Tifa originally didn't know it was Cloud in that dress, but once she found out, she and Aerith actually sort of 'clicked' and became much more friendly. She only acted rude because they were strangers that suddenly came in, and she had no idea whether they were real prostitutes or people in disguise. Keep in mind, the only reason Tifa was there was to get information from Don Corneo and beat him into a pulp soon afterwards. Before finding out that Aerith was with Cloud, who was on her side, she considered them as an obstacle to get past to attain what she needed.

3.) This was purely your opinion on whether she was dull or boring. She actually DOES have much going for her, but you'll never notice if you don't pay attention to her and continue to look at her negatively. She's caring and very motherly, but is also rather feisty and more than ready to kick butt for what she believes in. There's a lot more to her character that you're missing.

4.) Meh, I don't like it that she's really busty either, but you've got Tetsuya Nomura to blame for that. It's not her fault she apppeared the way she did. That, and some girls naturally have big breasts, but get bothered about it all the time because they don't 'fit it.' It's not fair to Tifa to dislike her because of her cupsize, just as it isn't fair to ostracize a girl because her breasts seem unnaturally large.

5.) Cloud is the one that made them out to be best friends, since he was so messed up in the head. Tifa had no real choice but to go along with it, otherwise he might suffer from a serious mental breakdown. If she didn't go along with the act, Cloud would know something was up, and then issues would arise that would impede on the group's ability to function. Particularly Cloud's ability to act as a leader.

6.) What does her limit breaks have to do with her? Have you even levelled her up? Beat Rush does a lot more than thirty damage. As for the dolphin one... It's kind of like how one might wonder why Cid would constantly carry sticks of dynamite with him if he's a pilot who smokes. Sometimes, it's just better not to ask.

7.) Tifa's only wearing the basic fashion trend for young girls her age in Midgar (you'll notice some other NPC's will dress similarly). Again, Tifa didn't choose her clothes, Nomura did. This is a rather lame reason to dislike a character, as if someone hated Aerith because her dress was pink. :/ They're very unconventional for a martial artist, but she eventually changes into something much more comfortable (and conservative) in Advent Children, since she's not living in a slum anymore.

Technically, I can always find at least one (or ten) things that I'll like about a character, so I'm definitely okay with Tifa.

It also helps if I find them fun to draw. ninja

That aside, it's okay to have a differing opinion, but some of the things you said are not exactly based on fact, but more of your interpretation on how you see her character based mostly on opinion.


I appreciate that you're trying to stand up for Tifa, so I definitely won't argue. It's good that you're a loyal fan and I respect your opinion. However, I saw the majority of these things in other female characters too....and most of them WERE true. I'm not contradicting you, but I think that the majority of Tetsuya Nomura's later characters were based on Tifa and her actions. Even if many fans did like Tifa, Nomura wouldn't have put Cloud with Tifa or Aeris because he'd lose so many fans. So in this case I think both of us are right....Tifa is bad and good. It depends on how you see her. However, I found it necessary to state my opinion here.
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