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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:07 pm
Um..... I just want to state why I disagree, and from what the guilds welcome thing or whatever, it looked like it said it's ok if you say your reasons for disagreeing, but if this is wrong, please tell, I don't want to break the rule, and I want to be as polite, as possible.
I feel it is ok fo arbortion to happen because the baby has no mind, as in general information that the baby has stored in its brain. Also, if two teenagers were to say, have "For-Fun" sex, and they're useing a condom, and the condom were to fail, and the female gets pregent, you're just going to say that it's a horrible thing to do abortion, it souds like, because then, even though it's not their fault, they're just going to have to deal with conseqences, difficulties, money problems, when they're not ready? That's like bringing a child into the world, just to have a miserable life, and is that what you want to happen? I bet not, but some people just do sex like that, and that'll never change, also, I don't think that the baby in the mother will ever feel pain as such when it's still young in the womb. Overall, I think that abortion is ok.
Thank for your time, and consideration to this post.
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:39 pm
I want so bad to reply to this dissagreeing, but it would just start a debate, and I'm nervous about doing that because it's not what the guild is for... so I don't really know what your intentions are with this thread... I'll bet you 200 gold it'll be closed.
I think what it meant was, if you see a Pro-lifer's post that you dissagree with, you're allowed to say what you think, but then you have to debate with that person in PM's if it goes farther.
But I WILL say one thing, the baby was concieved by his sperm and her ova, so whether or not she used protection, I'm almost sure it's still "their fault" since they did cause it to happen.
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:47 pm
Well, actually, since Kp made the guild public, I don't know what his stance is on general debate between non-official guild members.
I'll leave it open now, to verify some things with the other mods.
Be nice, though, guys. heart
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:49 pm
I.Am If you are going to insist upon posting in the Pro-Life guild, could you at least have the decency to consider what our opinions are? Don't go in there and tell us that abortions "only kill underdeveloped unimportant blobs," when, as Pro-Lifers, we obviously believe differently. Just because the guild is public is not an invitation for people to come in and start bashing our beliefs. You are abusing the situation, and making it more likely that kp decides to make the guild private again. Yumatuu Serrono If you had read my post clearly, you would have read that I am not trying to be rude! I have also read other peoples opions, and I have gathered enough information to state my opions and all I want to do is see what other people think of my ideas so that I may have a full idea of the situation! I am not "bashing" your ideas, only stateing my opions, and gathering information! Please be a bite more polite next time! I also did not say that the babies inside the mother's womb are 'unimportant" or "blobs" those are your own words, to some people, their babies are very important, i'm just backing up the people who do abortion from the people who think that abortion is wrong. Also, thank you for reading my post, but I don't thank you for flamming upon me. Good day. I do not want to have another conversation like this, as I said, I only want to hear what other people have to say to this, and I don't want any flameing, I only want to gather information upon this topic.
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:50 pm
Mcphee Well, actually, since Kp made the guild public, I don't know what his stance is on general debate between non-official guild members.
I'll leave it open now, to verify some things with the other mods.
Be nice, though, guys. heart I like this post, it's formal, polite, and pleasent, THIS is what I want to see in post on this topic if any.
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:52 pm
Homigawd, Andrew. We hear this argument every freakin' time we go to ED. We know this. We don't need you bombarding our guild with your own "oppinion". This is our haven, our sanctuary, where life is sacred. If you think abortion is so "ok" then kindly show your support in the Pro-Choice Guild where people might actually give a damn. You may flood my PM inbox all you want, but don't flood the place that is my Gaia home just because the place went public. I miss the days when this place was private. God. >___> Edit: Okay, so I saw Mcphee's post. *sigh* Fine. Andrew, listen. I'm PMSing. Pissed off. Please, just . . . how'd you find this place, honestly? Why are you here?
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:54 pm
Hokay, screw what I was trying to say in PMs: Thanks Ebby for saying exactly what I was trying to get across. heart If you want to debate abortion, go to the abortion thread in ED or the The Abortion Debate Guild.
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:57 pm
Ebony the Peacian Vampire Homigawd, Andrew. We hear this argument every freakin' time we go to ED. We know this. We don't need you bombarding our guild with your own "oppinion". This is our haven, our sanctuary, where life is sacred. If you think abortion is so "ok" then kindly show your support in the Pro-Choice Guild where people might actually give a damn. You may flood my PM inbox all you want, but don't flood the place that is my Gaia home just because the place went public. I miss the days when this place was private. God. >___> Franny, I'm trying to be polite, and I'm not "flooding" or "bombarding" Franny, i'm just trying see which side to take is better! I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion! This is not an argument, only a place for people to state their oppinions! Other times I'm tempted to do so other wise, but only with good reason! Like this one women said she hated her mother for aborting her would-be brother, for life! Please Franny, understand my reason for posting on here!
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:57 pm
If you want to want to see "where we're coming from", I highly suggest you browse our guild and read what we have to say before creating a topic.
I concur completely with I.Am. Just because the place is public, it gives you absolutely no right to post here and claim the innocent life we are defending is worthless and brainless.
If you would like to debate, PM me or anybody else here who would be willing to chat. But your beef isn't with this guild.
Thank you, and have a nice day.
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:58 pm
Ebony the Peacian Vampire Homigawd, Andrew. We hear this argument every freakin' time we go to ED. We know this. We don't need you bombarding our guild with your own "oppinion". This is our haven, our sanctuary, where life is sacred. If you think abortion is so "ok" then kindly show your support in the Pro-Choice Guild where people might actually give a damn. You may flood my PM inbox all you want, but don't flood the place that is my Gaia home just because the place went public. I miss the days when this place was private. God. >___> Edit: Okay, so I saw Mcphee's post. *sigh* Fine. Andrew, listen. I'm PMSing. Pissed off. Please, just . . . how'd you find this place, honestly? Why are you here? Why Franny, your signature! I just thought it was time to pay this guild a visit!
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:00 pm
Ebony the Peacian Vampire If you want to want to see "where we're coming from", I highly suggest you browse our guild and read what we have to say before creating a topic.
I concur completely with I.Am. Just because the place is public, it gives you absolutely no right to post here and claim the innocent life we are defending is worthless and brainless.
If you would like to debate, PM me or anybody else here who would be willing to chat. But your beef isn't with this guild.
Thank you, and have a nice day. I am not saying that a reletively young baby inside a womb is worthless! and you're starting to flame on me! Also, I have already seen what what other people have said on the topic!
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:04 pm
REMINDER ~ I am not debateing, only gathering information, SO DON'T FLAME ME!!!
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:05 pm
I have not once flamed you.
I am clearly stating that if you're going to be posting in our guild, don't contradict yourself - (if it's not worthless, why's it "ok" to kill it?) - and use logic and facts to back up your argument. Which shouldn't even be posted here.
The guild was made public for God knows why. I'm guessing it's for people who want to a) voice their support b) have a logical and intelligent reason to say that something we're doing isn't cool. We, so far, have had no issues with this.
Therefore, you have no right to post pro-choice statements in a pro-life guild. It's selfish and uncreative and we've seen too much of it before.
Edit: Oh, so you want facts? Okay, then. PM me. Go to one of the pro-life links the lovely lymelady posted. Browse our guild. See what we have to say. But don't bombard us with "OMG ABORTION ISN'T BAD" in our own guild.
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:06 pm
Yumatuu Serrono Ebony the Peacian Vampire If you want to want to see "where we're coming from", I highly suggest you browse our guild and read what we have to say before creating a topic.
I concur completely with I.Am. Just because the place is public, it gives you absolutely no right to post here and claim the innocent life we are defending is worthless and brainless.
If you would like to debate, PM me or anybody else here who would be willing to chat. But your beef isn't with this guild.
Thank you, and have a nice day. I am not saying that a reletively young baby inside a womb is worthless! and you're starting to flame on me! Also, I have already seen what what other people have said on the topic! I don't think you can accuse ebony of flaming when she ended her post with "thank you, and have a nice day."
She hasn't flamed you, she's defending herself and her stance.
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:09 pm
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