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 Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:35 am
1)  2) Okay, they're both hiragana for 'o'. My question is how to know when to use one or the other. My book says 2 is used for particles, and 1 is used for every other place the o sound occurs. But, I don't know which ones are particles. So far I know three situations for using an o hiragan by itself: a) Chizu o kudasai. b) Ocha desu. c) To okyo o (when the vowel is long) I know c) uses hiragana 1, but what about the other two? And are there any other situations where you need an o hiragana? If so, please say so and put which one you use. Also, my hiragana chart says theirs two hiragana for both zu and ji. Zu: 1) 2) Ji: 1) 2) How do you tell the difference of when to use these, and when do you use them?
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:54 am
For your first question, the second one is actually (w)o. the w isn't always sounded out.
And actually written directly in roumaji Tokyo is Toukyou. As for your second question, I don't know.
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:22 am
を can be pronounced wo. and you will find many japanese do. it mark the direct object.
ず
｝prounounced same. づ is used when つ comes after a voiced consonant, and it is used in some words like つづじ・つづく
づ
じ
｝ pronounced same, and treaed like the above is to zu. when after a voiced consonant chi beocme ji. some words take this ji: 痔（ぢ)meaning hemrhhoids.
ち゛
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:09 pm
Eh, you just have to get used to it. It's like with English words like cough, bough, through, etc. It's similar, I mean. You just learn to differentiate. Memorize the spellings. Yeah.
OK, so maybe it's a little more like learning how to spell loot and lute.
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:44 am
Akira_Hoshino Eh, you just have to get used to it. It's like with English words like cough, bough, through, etc. It's similar, I mean. You just learn to differentiate. Memorize the spellings. Yeah. OK, so maybe it's a little more like learning how to spell loot and lute. no it come only after voiced consonants so there no way to get mixed up.
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:04 am
Aiko_589 を can be pronounced wo. and you will find many japanese do. it mark the direct object. ず ｝prounounced same. づ is used when つ comes after a voiced consonant, and it is used in some words like つづじ・つづく づ じ ｝ pronounced same, and treaed like the above is to zu. when after a voiced consonant chi beocme ji. some words take this ji: 痔（ぢ)meaning hemrhhoids. ち゛ Okay... that makes sense... I think. But why is it like that?
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:09 am
Silverotter107 Aiko_589 を can be pronounced wo. and you will find many japanese do. it mark the direct object. ず ｝prounounced same. づ is used when つ comes after a voiced consonant, and it is used in some words like つづじ・つづく づ じ ｝ pronounced same, and treaed like the above is to zu. when after a voiced consonant chi beocme ji. some words take this ji: 痔（ぢ)meaning hemrhhoids. ち゛ Okay... that makes sense... I think. But why is it like that? its the same as to why the kuchi in 非常口 （hijouguchi) becomes guchi, because jou is voiced.
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:11 pm
Okay, but what do you mean by 'when it's voiced'? I know that some vowels are silent after letters like s, ch, z, and so on, but... and I thought all consonants were voiced. neutral
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:17 pm
Silverotter107 Okay, but what do you mean by 'when it's voiced'? I know that some vowels are silent after letters like s, ch, z, and so on, but... and I thought all consonants were voiced. neutral z syallable are voiced. voicing and nono voicing it seem natural to me but: voiceed- r,z,j,g,n,m,y non voice: s,t,k,p,h,ch,tsu, and any thing that becomes silent (shtaksa,shmas,oksan,chta,shto,hto,popp)
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:18 pm
Aiko_589 Silverotter107 Okay, but what do you mean by 'when it's voiced'? I know that some vowels are silent after letters like s, ch, z, and so on, but... and I thought all consonants were voiced. neutral z syallable are voiced. voicing and nono voicing it seem natural to me but: voiceed- r,z,j,g,n,m,y non voice: s,t,k,p,h,ch,tsu, and any thing that becomes silent (shtaksa,shmas,oksan,chta,shto,hto,popp) of course there are irregualrity (hiroshma, not hirojima)
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:58 am
Ooo, okay. Thank you very much!
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