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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 2:36 pm


Sex has been a prominent factor of our lives since God created us. It was meant as a gift of love to be shared with our spouse as a means to become one and grow stronger together. It is also one of the most important and talked about things in the bible. Today's society has perverted that gift so horrendously though that it's hard to tell what is fact and what is fiction for most people who are unbelievers. So I thought I should start this topic as a means to see what people thought about sex in the world today (and also since the guild is running slow and I think we could use some new topics...sorry if this is a repeat thread).
Teen have so many conflicting views of sex today it's scary. Cybering, pornography, rape, abortion, condoms, pills, date rape drugs, masturbation, all these things are polluting our world today. And everybody I know who's been curious about my faith has asked me this question repeatedly: "Which of these things are ok and which are not?" Now the bible teaches us to think on what is good and that lusting in the mind is lusting of the flesh. Most people think masturbation is ok because they're not having sex with someone else or that cybering is ok because the actual act isn't being done. "It's a way to release the hormones without actually doing anything that can cause pregnancy or STDs." Maybe not, but what about the spiritual wounds? Or are there any? This has been a huge question I've seen posted all over the Morality and Religion ED forums ever since I signed up on Gaia.
So, as Christians, what are your views? What is wrong and what isn't? Is the excuse of not performing the actual acts relevant? Should schools allow condoms and information on the pill to be distributed during sex ed as a means of "protection" when (in my opinion) it could also be a means of encouragement? What are your views? (I'll post my later if this thread is active)
PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:06 pm


never worry about repeat threads, they sometimes get missed first time round, and ill just link the other one and lock the repeat so its all in one place.

I believe that Sex before marriage is WRONG, no two ways about it.
When you sleep with someone as it were, you leave part of you with them, so if youve been with 6 people, no wonder you are confused and looking for something, you are all over the place.

All forms of sexual desire and lust are wrong, (well, in marriage im not so clear on, but i think you understand what im saying) although ive had encounters with some things, i still believe them to be wrong, and harmful.

And, i believe that the forms of protection should be taught in schools, not so you know how-to and when-to, but so if someone comes up to you and says 'are Pills/Condoms/ whatever right'. you dont just say 'eh, a what????' you get me?

I also think the way children try to grow up too fast should be discouraged as much as possible. I tries to grow up too fast, and in a way im regretting it now.

Xanduran


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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:43 pm


I agree. And you're right about the growing up too fast. I'm actually really shocked with this one girl on my photography site. The way she dresses and poses in her pictures I thought she was 17 or 18. Something like that. But when I looked at her profile it said she was 13. 13!!!! I was like "whoa!!!" Some of the pictures shes posing in (none of them are mature content mind you) just suggest she's more mature. It scares me how marketing is trying to shove so many teens into the adult world of sex by revealing clothing and such. It's sad sad
PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:29 pm


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Teen have so many conflicting views of sex today it's scary. Cybering, pornography, rape, abortion, condoms, pills, date rape drugs, masturbation, all these things are polluting our world today. And everybody I know who's been curious about my faith has asked me this question repeatedly: "Which of these things are ok and which are not?" Now the bible teaches us to think on what is good and that lusting in the mind is lusting of the flesh. Most people think masturbation is ok because they're not having sex with someone else or that cybering is ok because the actual act isn't being done. "It's a way to release the hormones without actually doing anything that can cause pregnancy or STDs."
Pregnancy and STD's aren't the issue. If it is a sin to even just after a woman, than pretending to have sex with her is for sure a sin.
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Maybe not, but what about the spiritual wounds? Or are there any? This has been a huge question I've seen posted all over the Morality and Religion ED forums ever since I signed up on Gaia.
So, as Christians, what are your views? What is wrong and what isn't? Is the excuse of not performing the actual acts relevant?
Yes, there are emotional ties formed when you have sex, and even with non-sexual intimacy to a degree. God calls a couple who have had sex one flesh, meaning that there is now a connection between the two which will never be fully broken. People in todays society don't believe this. They believe that sex is no big deal, when it really is a very big deal. It is viewed as a recreation akin to drinking or smoking. Mostly harmless and lotsa fun. They believe that they will get away with it, that there are no consequences when in reality there are many. I had a friend tell me that when your a virgin its easey to stay one, but once you loose that it gets harder and harder to resist.
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Should schools allow condoms and information on the pill to be distributed during sex ed as a means of "protection" when (in my opinion) it could also be a means of encouragement? What are your views? (I'll post my later if this thread is active)
I am not too sure about this. Personaly, i believe that abstinence sould be taught first and foremost, but that condoms and other preventatives ahould be mentioned. I don't think you should like, teach people how use them or anything, just mention it perhaps.

LittleKuroNeko


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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:16 pm


I shoulda cleared up the condom/pill thing sweatdrop There are alot of schools out there now that are showing students how to use condoms, what pills are best for what kinds of peoples, even what are the "least painful ways to 'penetrate' for the first time." If they knew any better that it's painful no matter what if you're not married first because you're giving yourself to someone who you may never see again! I really wish people would cherish their bodies more than they do now. One of the commandments is not to defile another's body (dont know what version that is or if im right...sorry) which means murder AND sex. To harm anybody, INCLUDING YOURSELF, is breaking that commandment. We need to learn to love and cherish our bodies in a way that honors God.
PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 7:23 pm


I don't know what the new testament says about it, but people used to have to sacrifice something or remain by themselves and have nobody touch them in the old testament if they had a discharge whether male or female...anyway, that sucked.

Project777


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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 7:32 pm


Discharged sexually or just naturally (like girls do before periods sometimes)? Cuz if that happened naturally that would REALLY suck to not be able to do anything cuz of it...Does anyone else think it's odd that periods are mentioned only once in the bible? Anyway...stay on topic, didn't mean to drag it off.
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 12:43 pm


I believe that school should distribute such things. Not as a campaign to allow kids to have sex but to keep them safe. We have to remember that when it comes to schools- you have to keep faith out of the picture.
we shouldremember as well that what we maythink is good for everyone might not be. Meaning that humans must be allowed to make their own mistakes- and sin. If not then we would all be practically sinless and there would be no point in becoming a stronger Christian. Atleast if they are going to chose to have sex let them be "safe".

I for one am a big fighter for abstinence and would absolutely love if everyone could be that way before marriage. I've seen the damage it can do first had from one of my best friends. But im happy to seeher on the right track.

It breaks my heart that people can be so casual about it and think its not a big deal when really it is a big BIG deal.

Elysia Angel


Spartan1989

PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:56 pm


Ah the masterbation issue. I dont have an issue against it. I find it a a better way to keep your self from having premarital sex. I asked my pastor about it and they said there was nothing wrong with it...
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 7:27 pm


Spartan1989
Ah the masterbation issue. I dont have an issue against it. I find it a a better way to keep your self from having premarital sex. I asked my pastor about it and they said there was nothing wrong with it...


I partially agree partially don't. The bible says not to lust and people see that as a form of lusting. Yet at the same time it helps to keep one from going far with anybody. So I'm kinda in the middle on that subject. I'd prefer non-Christians to masturbate rather than have sex but I can't tell them that. So like I said, I'm stuck.

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Elysia Angel

PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 12:19 pm


I think im against that too. It may be a good way to stop premarital sex but it can also cause it or more problems.

It it lusting because you are imagining have sex with a person, which as the same thing basically. There are cases when people get so caught up with masterbating that thats they only way they can have sex. They give up on being with other people. There is also a really really really sick and disterbing case this girl had because she would imagine "being" with Jesus.
Now i say there is something seriously wrong with that.

Then you have the cases where they might do that but it leads to experiencing the actual thing. i believe that masterbation fall under sexual immorality-which our bodies, the temples of God, were not meant for. that i know is in the good book. like all sins its a catalyst for other sins to be commited. We have to try to be moral Christians and fight temtation in all forms. Man was made to be with woman, not with himself.But as we all know thats easier said than done so on goes our learning experience called life to lead us closer to God.
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 3:54 pm


I agree. But like I said not everybody believes or is gonna listen so I'd rather non-believer's commit sin against themselves than pull someone else into it. Sorry if that sounds rather unchristian. I'm just trying to look at it in the worldly view that most do. I would LOVE it if no one commited any lustful form of sin. But alas, that's not gonna happen sad

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Elysia Angel

PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2005 1:20 pm


it so sad isnt it. i wish that people would be stronger against it---things would be alot clearer that way 3nodding
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2005 3:31 pm


Yea but that's the world *shrugs* come on people, POST MORE VIEWS!

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Shrouded_ Soul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:46 pm


I heard in a sermon once that even leting the dirty thought of rape or any of the others listed is to comite the crime. I think God created sex as a good thing, for a husband and wife not two teens who got drunk at a party.
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