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 Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:55 pm
Before I go on...I do admit that I am not the right person to talk about this so I would like the comments and help from others who do know more than I do.
My questions are:
- Can Hinduism and Buddhism be followed (not blindly of course) side by side?
- Do both Hinduism and Buddhism have compatible teachings? Other than rebirth/reincarnation and karma? Can they be compatible? Can both be applied?
- If so, can one disagree with the other. Say if there are some things you dont agree with in either Hinduism or Buddhism...is that alright?
These are my questions for now >_<" but I hope others can join in this discussion and contribute to it as well.
PS: Can there be such thing as Western Hindu too (Like someone who does note have heritage from India) and also I had the feeling that maybe someone would create a thread like this...but no one did so I took the courage and did it myself.
Take care
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:04 pm
Shokai - Can Hinduism and Buddhism be followed (not blindly of course) side by side? Really, Sanathana Dharma enveloped Buddhism in a post-Buddhist philosophical movement and after a Classical period review of the Vedas. One would be, in this regard, practicing Sanathana Dharma if one would be practicing Buddhism. There is a problem in compatibility, however, with most schools of Hindu philosophy and Buddhism in general, primarily the Atman concept. Classical Hinduism needs the concept of Atman, where as Buddhism does not, and in fact needs the concept Anatman. I'll expect you to know the two terms. Shokai - Do both Hinduism and Buddhism have compatible teachings? Other than rebirth/reincarnation and karma? Can they be compatible? Can both be applied? One thing must be understood before I proceed: Hinduism has many philosophical schools and the vast majority are deemed credible. As such, a lot of philosophical traditions in Hinduism have much in common with other religions. The most widely known Buddha, Siddharta Gautama, is assumed to have been indoctrinated in the Hindu philosophies of the time. As such, many Buddhist concepts are explained via Hindu concepts. Many people, perhaps mistakenly, believe that Buddhism is nothing but an atheistic arm of Hindu philosophy. I used to think that way, but now I'm starting to question that belief. I'm beginning to see some fundamental differences between Vedic Hinduism (which few, if any, people practice) and Buddhism. I may be wrong, but I'd rather err on the side of a negative claim than a positive one. I will say, however, that Buddhism can be filed neatly under "Sanathana Dharma," just like any other philosophical system or faith. Shokai - If so, can one disagree with the other. Say if there are some things you dont agree with in either Hinduism or Buddhism...is that alright? No, it's not alright. Because everybody knows that anything that disagrees with the majority's religion is wrong. Shokai These are my questions for now >_<" but I hope others can join in this discussion and contribute to it as well. PS: Can there be such thing as Western Hindu too (Like someone who does note have heritage from India) and also I had the feeling that maybe someone would create a thread like this...but no one did so I took the courage and did it myself. Take care I will never agree with this premise that Hinduism approves of conversion. Look around at my posts in the guild forum; I'm not inclined to post why I grossly dislike this Hindu convert notion more than three times. I thought someone might have made this thread previously, seeing as a good portion of guild members is Buddhist.
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:48 am
Thank you for answering my questions ^_^ and yes I am familiar with atman and anatman. I think I should have clarified a little on that disagreeing thing but maybe later because I have little time on my hands. Thanks again and take care.
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:50 am
I just wanted to be clear on this thing here. ^___^
Oh-mi-kaze, do you mean that, for instance, white people, because they are white, cannot practice the Sanatana Dharma? Or that they simply can't become Hindu (because of course it's quite difficult to change your race) I assume you mean we only can't convert to being Hindu, not the Sanatana Dharma.
This is what I think on the matter. Sorry if I offend anyone, I don't mean to. Because "Hindu" is, at least in these days, used interchangably as both a race and a religion, I tend to use the term interchangably myself. I look completely white even though my grandpa was of Indian decent. What I mean to say is I think it is possible for a white person to practice "Hinduism", but of course not to be "Hindu."
So when a white person says "I'm Hindu" I don't get into a tizzy. Because I know what they mean - that is, they practice Hinduism, the Eternal Truth.
Do I make any sense? sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:09 pm
shirokitsune I just wanted to be clear on this thing here. ^___^
Oh-mi-kaze, do you mean that, for instance, white people, because they are white, cannot practice the Sanatana Dharma? Or that they simply can't become Hindu (because of course it's quite difficult to change your race) I assume you mean we only can't convert to being Hindu, not the Sanatana Dharma.
This is what I think on the matter. Sorry if I offend anyone, I don't mean to. Because "Hindu" is, at least in these days, used interchangably as both a race and a religion, I tend to use the term interchangably myself. I look completely white even though my grandpa was of Indian decent. What I mean to say is I think it is possible for a white person to practice "Hinduism", but of course not to be "Hindu."
So when a white person says "I'm Hindu" I don't get into a tizzy. Because I know what they mean - that is, they practice Hinduism, the Eternal Truth.
Do I make any sense? sweatdrop Anyone can practice Hinduism, it's just that I cannot reconcile non-Indians with being "Hindus." Some do, but they have very little reasoning behind it. Ontologically, only Indians can be "Hindu." I'm not saying that you have to look Indian. You simply have to be able to trace your roots to anywhere as far north as Afghanistan, as far east as Fiji, as far south as Sri Lanka, and as far west as southern Iran, with some ease, and be raised with Hinduism to any extent. Given this scope, I've included early-generation ethnic Indians outside of India, Indians themselves, Nepalese, Sri Lankan Tamils, Bhutanese, some very small communities in Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Afghanistan, and children of nonethnic Indians living in chiefly Hindu communities who have practiced Sanathana Dharma.. Even discounting all the McHindus (cheap thrill "converts") and the more respectable "converts," that number is very close to 1 billion adherents. The reason why I see the final (and most questionable) group as Hindus is because one must make concessions for orphans of other children who were practically raised in a Hindu environment in India or abroad.
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:20 pm
xd I loved your term "McHindu's" *rolls around on the floor* XD! That's going in the quote book! <333
Oh I definitely agree with you. Hinduism is not just a religion, it is a culture, an entire way of life. I don't ever tell people "I'm Hindu" really, I just tell them I practice Hinduism, because if I say the actual term for it they will not know what I mean. xD What I mean to say is I think a person can be a "western Hindu" - only in the sense of being a western person practicing Hinduism, not in the sense of being a racial Hindu. xd
Blahblah. Sorry. <3333
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:59 pm
shirokitsune xd I loved your term "McHindu's" *rolls around on the floor* XD! That's going in the quote book! <333
Oh I definitely agree with you. Hinduism is not just a religion, it is a culture, an entire way of life. I don't ever tell people "I'm Hindu" really, I just tell them I practice Hinduism, because if I say the actual term for it they will not know what I mean. xD What I mean to say is I think a person can be a "western Hindu" - only in the sense of being a western person practicing Hinduism, not in the sense of being a racial Hindu. xd
Blahblah. Sorry. <3333 Allow me to clarify as well, that by "non-Indian Hindus," I mean to say Hindu converts. I don't accept that Hinduism allows for conversion.
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:41 pm
Oh-mi-kaze shirokitsune xd I loved your term "McHindu's" *rolls around on the floor* XD! That's going in the quote book! <333
Oh I definitely agree with you. Hinduism is not just a religion, it is a culture, an entire way of life. I don't ever tell people "I'm Hindu" really, I just tell them I practice Hinduism, because if I say the actual term for it they will not know what I mean. xD What I mean to say is I think a person can be a "western Hindu" - only in the sense of being a western person practicing Hinduism, not in the sense of being a racial Hindu. xd
Blahblah. Sorry. <3333 Allow me to clarify as well, that by "non-Indian Hindus," I mean to say Hindu converts. I don't accept that Hinduism allows for conversion. But surely it is not a bad thing to learn some things from and about Hinduism here and there...
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:59 am
Shokai Oh-mi-kaze shirokitsune xd I loved your term "McHindu's" *rolls around on the floor* XD! That's going in the quote book! <333
Oh I definitely agree with you. Hinduism is not just a religion, it is a culture, an entire way of life. I don't ever tell people "I'm Hindu" really, I just tell them I practice Hinduism, because if I say the actual term for it they will not know what I mean. xD What I mean to say is I think a person can be a "western Hindu" - only in the sense of being a western person practicing Hinduism, not in the sense of being a racial Hindu. xd
Blahblah. Sorry. <3333 Allow me to clarify as well, that by "non-Indian Hindus," I mean to say Hindu converts. I don't accept that Hinduism allows for conversion. But surely it is not a bad thing to learn some things from and about Hinduism here and there... Of course not. Learn all you want. Conversion, however, is a separate practice from learning.
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:23 pm
Oh-mi-kaze Shokai Oh-mi-kaze shirokitsune xd I loved your term "McHindu's" *rolls around on the floor* XD! That's going in the quote book! <333
Oh I definitely agree with you. Hinduism is not just a religion, it is a culture, an entire way of life. I don't ever tell people "I'm Hindu" really, I just tell them I practice Hinduism, because if I say the actual term for it they will not know what I mean. xD What I mean to say is I think a person can be a "western Hindu" - only in the sense of being a western person practicing Hinduism, not in the sense of being a racial Hindu. xd
Blahblah. Sorry. <3333 Allow me to clarify as well, that by "non-Indian Hindus," I mean to say Hindu converts. I don't accept that Hinduism allows for conversion. But surely it is not a bad thing to learn some things from and about Hinduism here and there... Of course not. Learn all you want. Conversion, however, is a separate practice from learning. What do you mean by conversion to Hindu? But didnt you just say anyone can practice Hinduism? Or/and do you mean people just calling themselves "Hindu" like cultural Hindu? Im confused now. I once had a discussion with a friend when I said I was Buddhist. Then I told her that I am not Buddhist, but I practice Buddhism. Does the same thing go with "Hindu" as well?
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:58 pm
Shokai Before I go on...I do admit that I am not the right person to talk about this so I would like the comments and help from others who do know more than I do. My questions are: - Can Hinduism and Buddhism be followed (not blindly of course) side by side? - Do both Hinduism and Buddhism have compatible teachings? Other than rebirth/reincarnation and karma? Can they be compatible? Can both be applied? - If so, can one disagree with the other. Say if there are some things you dont agree with in either Hinduism or Buddhism...is that alright? These are my questions for now >_<" but I hope others can join in this discussion and contribute to it as well. PS: Can there be such thing as Western Hindu too (Like someone who does note have heritage from India) and also I had the feeling that maybe someone would create a thread like this...but no one did so I took the courage and did it myself. Take care Answers to ur questions 1. I am not sure if they can be followed side by side even though there are simiarities in the religons i am not for certain if both can be followed side by side as teachings are somewhat different in how they view things . 2. Indeed rebirth reincarnation and karma are similar but please note that how they are viewed are different and not the same. 3. I am not sure of what i would agree with or disagree with but how i practice my Hinduism is take what i want from that religion as there is so many levels of devotion its hard to exactly follow everything. 4. There are western hindus absoultely, i see my spiritual teacher and MANY of them are non hindus One does not have to be Indian to be a Hindu as even westerners can be hindus as well but more of the westerners i know consider themselves spiritual then hindu.
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