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 Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:43 pm
Please don't take this the wrong way Pro-Choice vegetarians and vegans, but I'm curious: How do you console those two views? On one hand, you support the legal killing of human offspring, on the other hand, you are against the eating of meat. I know that many, if not most, of you do not shove the no-meat thing down our throats, but I still have to wonder how you can actively support the killing of humans, however young and undeveloped, while simultaneously being against the killing of animals.
Even moreso I have to wonder about vegan Pro-Choicers. I mean, you won't even eat a chicken's unfertilized egg, but killing a human fetus is okay? What's up with that?
Do you somehow justify the human fetus as being worth less then the chicken egg?
And obviously, there are the Pro-Choice vegans who support groups like the Animal Liberation Front, who are willing to hurt humans in order to help animals escape captivity. How can you value animal life above human life to such an extent? It makes no sense.
I know I made directed questions even though there's only one Pro-Choice vegan in the guild right now, but that's just because it's a simpler format for me to write in. Especially considering that I know there -is- one in the guild who can directly answer the questions. sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:10 am
some are vegan/veggie because they think ingesting animal products is gross [/annoyingness]
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:10 am
lymelady some are vegan/veggie because they think ingesting animal products is gross [/annoyingness] But killing your own offspring for your simple comfort isn't? confused
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:30 am
they find the sight of blood and tissue flowing through a tube to be beautiful.
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:34 am
Hahaha, well there aren't very many like that, in my experience... I've met one guy who didn't like meat because of how it tasted, but he was only a vegetarian, not a vegan.
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:05 am
Oh, Just so you choicers who like to browes our guild, this topic in no way implies that all choicers are vegan/vegitarians. It's aimed at those who are.
So no tacking our words out of context, K? wink
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:30 am
Haha, yeah. It's also not trying to imply that all vegetarians are Pro-Choice, although most vegetarians I've met have had a liberal-slant to them. Including Miranda, even if she's Pro-Life. :XP:
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:24 pm
Ebby could never be a vegetarian/vegan. She loves meat too much. .________.
"OMG Ebby! You're pro-life! You eat meat! Hipocrite!"
Um, no. There is a difference between killing an animal without causing it any pain or misery for nutrition and survival, and opposing a surgical process that ruthlessly tears a human child to shreds for mere convenience.
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:41 pm
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:21 pm
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:13 pm
I.Am Haha, yeah. It's also not trying to imply that all vegetarians are Pro-Choice, although most vegetarians I've met have had a liberal-slant to them. Including Miranda, even if she's Pro-Life. :XP:
More like, been run over by the liberal steam roller and have no chance of recovering.
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:57 pm
Yes, they might consider it gross, but a lot of people who are pro-choice would never get abortions for themselves so they'd never have to do anything gross. In the same way that they don't force other people to refrain from eating meat because they find it gross, they don't force other people to refrain from abortion because they find it gross.
And yeah, saying, "OMG you can't be pro-life if you eat meat!" is like saying, "OMG you can't be pro-choice if you don't support rape!"
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:43 pm
Pyrotechnic Oracle lymelady some are vegan/veggie because they think ingesting animal products is gross [/annoyingness] But killing your own offspring for your simple comfort isn't? confused I don't know why they think that. I'm not sure where my friend stands on the issue of abortion but he's a vegan cause he thinks it's healther then eating meat (though I do think you need some meat, and sadly everything we eat was once living...even veggies). By the way, it's not like we force others to give birth and have the baby, we just think it's wrong to kill for comfort and cause they don't want it so that whole "don't force that on us" don't work since at least I never forced anyone into it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:47 am
This pro-life vegetarian, who has definitely been "run over by the liberal steamroller" xd would like to mention that the ALF, (in general, as it's not a formal organisation but rather includes anyone like-minded,) does not approve of harming humans. Destruction of property, yes, but pretty much every ALF/ELF supporter views harming humans as bad as harming other animals. While they might torch someone's farm and drive them out of the business, they won't cause physical harm to the owners.
And obviously, I see respecting the life of an oyster but not a human fetus as completely hypocritical. I don't want to get into a debate about vegetarianism here, though.
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:07 am
Uh, even if you aren't physically harming a person, I would think that driving them out of business and ruining their lives is tantamount to it. And it's not as though they are going to be crying a whole lot if someone dies in the fire they start. Unless it's an animal.
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