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Kuro Neko Hourou
Crew

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 3:46 pm


judan title, 43rd edition, 2005

thread about the judan title in japan. this year, the 43rd judan title match is between o rissei (9p, judan), and cho chikun (9p, the challenger).

here are the 4 games played so far. the score is currently 2-2 (best out of 7):


[EDITED BY CIPHER]
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 4:52 pm


I will post the SGF code here for the 4 games so far.. 3nodding
Game 1 : 3rd Mar | 09:00am | Cho (B) wins by 0.5
(GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
PW[O Rissei]PB[Cho Chikun]WR[9p]BR[9p]DT[2005-03-03]EV[Judan title,43,Japan,Sankei]RO[1]PC[Japan]SO[http://gobase.org/games/japan/titles/judan/43/game-01.sgf]RE[B+0.50]
;B[qd]W[dd]B[fc]W[id]B[cf]W[fe]B[cc]W[dc]B[db]
;W[cd]B[bb]W[bc]B[cb]W[dg]B[dp]W[pp]B[oc]W[cn]
;B[fq]W[bp]B[df]W[eg]B[be]W[bd]B[ci]W[ec]B[eb]
;W[fd]B[gc]W[cj]B[bj]W[bk]B[bi]W[ck]B[ei]W[gh]
;B[dj]W[fj]B[dk]W[en]B[fi]W[gi]B[gj]W[fk]B[hj]
;W[ii]B[cm]W[bm]B[dl]W[cl]B[dm]W[dn]B[ak]W[bl]
;B[fl]W[gk]B[bq]W[cp]B[cq]W[fp]B[bo]W[co]B[gq]
;W[gp]B[ef]W[ff]B[fm]W[ep]B[eq]W[hp]B[hm]W[hk]
;B[jm]W[il]B[im]W[kp]B[ir]W[iq]B[jr]W[lm]B[jl]
;W[lk]B[kj]W[ij]B[kk]W[hb]B[gb]W[lj]B[ki]W[qe]
;B[pe]W[qf]B[rd]W[pf]B[qn]W[ql]B[np]W[qo]B[pn]
;W[oo]B[qq]W[pq]B[ro]W[qp]B[pl]W[qj]B[pj]W[pk]
;B[ok]W[qk]B[rp]W[rq]B[nn]W[no]B[mo]W[mp]B[lp]
;W[lo]B[mq]W[mn]B[qr]W[rr]B[ko]W[mp]B[pr]W[lq]
;B[or]W[mh]B[kg]W[nr]B[rs]W[nc]B[od]W[lh]B[kh]
;W[ke]B[ig]W[hf]B[of]W[mf]B[bg]W[ob]B[nd]W[rm]
;B[rn]W[dh]B[di]W[pc]B[pd]W[mc]B[pb]W[og]B[ol]
;W[hq]B[hr]W[hc]B[if]W[ga]B[ab]W[gd]B[fb]W[ie]
;B[ch]W[pa]B[qb]W[oj]B[sg]W[rg]B[sf]W[mb]B[mr]
;W[lr]B[nq]W[aq]B[ar]W[ap]B[rh]W[qh]B[ri]W[qa]
;B[ra]W[oa]B[rb]W[md]B[oh]W[pi]B[ng]W[pg]B[nh]
;W[nj]B[nf]W[br]B[cr]W[as]B[on]W[rj]B[kn]W[em]
;B[lf]W[me]B[el]W[kr]B[jq]W[jp]B[ml]W[ll]B[mm]
;W[ln]B[le]W[ld]B[qm]W[cs]B[ds]W[rl]B[bs]W[re]
;B[se]W[cs]B[fa]W[es]B[bs]W[jk]B[kl]W[cs]B[fs]
;W[dr]B[dq]W[ha]B[kf]W[je]B[fn]W[fo]B[io]W[jo]
;B[ho]W[ip]B[nk]W[jn]B[km]W[li]B[ni]W[mk]B[mi]
;W[mj]B[cg]W[gg]B[er]W[in]B[hn]W[js]B[oq]W[mo]
;B[sm]W[ne]B[mg]W[ae]B[af]W[ad]B[al]W[am]B[aj]
;W[bn]B[ce]W[sl]B[sn]W[ms]B[ns]W[do]B[rf]W[qg]
;B[hh]W[hi]B[qi]W[ph]B[oi]W[pj]B[sh]W[kq]B[ds]
;W[jf]B[jg]W[gl]B[bs]W[gm]B[gn]W[cs]B[sj]W[sk]
;B[bs]W[sd]B[sc]W[cs]B[ls]W[ks]B[hs]W[ms]B[sd]
;W[ls]B[si]W[ar]B[bs]W[ih]B[hg]W[cs]B[ee]W[ed]
;B[bs]W[ah]B[ag]W[cs]B[jj]W[ik]B[bs]W[nm]B[nl]
;W[cs]B[fh]W[fg]B[bs]W[om]B[pm]W[cs]B[he]W[gf]
;B[bs]W[os]B[ps]W[cs]B[nb]W[na]B[bs]W[oe]B[lg]
;W[cs]B[ma]W[la]B[bs]W[po]
;B[cs]TW[ia][ja][ka][ma][ib][jb][kb][lb][nb][ic][jc][kc][lc][hd][jd][kd][ge][he][gj][hj][rk][an][ao][bo][eo][lp]TB[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][sa][sb][pc][qc][rc][bf][ah][bh][ai][nm][om][so][sp][rq][sq][dr][fr][gr][nr][rr][sr][es][gs][os][qs][ss])

Game 2 : 17th Mar | 09:00am | O (B) wins by 5.5
(
;
FF[4]
EV[Judan title,43,Japan,Sankei]
RO[2]
PB[O Rissei]
BR[9p, Judan]
PW[Cho Chikun]
WR[9p]
KM[6.5]
DT[2005-03-17]
PC[Japan]
RE[B+5.5]
SO[http://gobase.org/games/japan/titles/judan/43/game-02.sgf]
AP[sgf2misc:3.1.9]
;B[pd]W[dd]B[pq]W[po]B[dp]W[qq]B[qk]W[pr]B[oq]W[or]
;B[qp]W[rq]B[pp]W[nq]B[oo]W[nc]B[pf]W[pb]B[np]W[mq]
;B[cf]W[fc]B[qc]W[ld]B[bd]W[cc]B[ci]W[ok]B[qi]W[fq]
;B[dn]W[cq]B[dq]W[dr]B[cp]W[br]B[bq]W[cr]B[go]W[dh]
;B[ch]W[df]B[ce]W[dg]B[jc]W[kc]B[je]W[kf]B[gc]W[gd]
;B[kb]W[lb]B[hd]W[cg]B[bg]W[bh]B[bi]W[hc]B[gb]W[hb]
;B[he]W[fb]B[ih]W[di]B[gq]W[gr]B[fr]W[er]B[fp]W[eq]
;B[hr]W[ig]B[hg]W[if]B[hf]W[kh]B[hi]W[ep]B[eo]W[fs]
;B[kj]W[gh]B[hh]W[hq]B[ke]W[le]B[lf]W[pg]B[qg]W[mf]
;B[lg]W[of]B[ph]W[mh]B[kg]W[jg]B[jh]W[pe]B[og]W[mg]
;B[jf]W[qe]B[oe]W[od]B[nf]W[ne]B[re]W[of]B[qd]W[mp]
;B[nn]W[oe]B[qf]W[rp]B[qo]W[dk]B[ip]W[gp]B[fo]W[bc]
;B[mj]W[ro]B[lo]W[qn]B[pn]W[qm]B[pm]W[mo]B[mn]W[lh]
;B[kq]W[kf]B[ni]W[gk]B[hk]W[iq]B[jq]W[lp]B[kp]W[hl]
;B[gl]W[ho]B[hp]W[io]B[gq]W[ko]B[ln]W[gp]B[jp]W[gm]
;B[fl]W[fm]B[el]W[em]B[dl]W[im]B[gq]W[dm]B[cl]W[cm]
;B[hn]W[hj]B[ik]W[ij]B[gj]W[fk]B[jk]W[in]B[gn]W[hm]
;B[ir]W[bj]B[bl]W[cj]B[bn]W[ai]B[qb]W[bp]B[bo]W[aq]
;B[cn]W[ql]B[pl]W[rk]B[rj]W[lj]B[lk]W[do]B[co]W[ic]
;B[ie]W[jd]B[ek]W[pk]B[qj]W[nh]B[oh]W[mi]B[mk]W[ki]
;B[ji]W[rl]B[lr]W[fj]B[gi]W[ff]B[ns]W[nr]B[fg]W[ej]
;B[fe]W[fd]B[ge]W[ee]B[ob]W[nb]B[kg]W[oa]B[kd]W[jb]
;B[qa]W[fh]B[gg]W[lg]B[lf]W[jj]B[ii]W[kf]B[pa]W[oc]
;B[lf]W[kk]B[kl]W[kf]B[jg]W[ms]B[mr]W[os]B[sj]W[sk]
;B[ng]W[no]B[op]W[lq]B[kr]W[lf]B[id]W[jc]B[pc]W[ob]
;B[hs]W[gs]B[ao]W[ap]B[fi]W[eh]B[ak]W[qr]B[ls]W[li]
;B[ns]W[bm]B[am]W[ms]B[rn]W[sm]B[ns]W[rd]B[rc]W[ms]
;B[al]W[ns]AB[an]AW[dj]TB[bm][cm][dm][do][em][en][fm][fn]
[gm][gp][hj][hl][hm][ho][hq][if][ig][ij][il][im][in][io][iq]
[is][jj][jl][jm][jn][jo][jr][js][kk][km][kn][ko][ks][ll][lm]
[ml][mm][nj][nk][nl][nm][oi][oj][ok][ol][om][on][pg][pi][pj]
[pk][po][qh][ra][rb][rd][rf][rg][rh][ri][sa][sb][sc][sd][se]
[sf][sg][sh][si]TW[aa][ab][ac][ad][ae][af][ag][ah][ar][as]
[ba][bb][bd][be][bf][bg][bi][bq][bs][ca][cb][cd][ce][cf][ch]
[ci][cs][da][db][dc][de][ds][ea][eb][ec][ed][es][fa][fr][ga]
[gb][gc][ha][ia][ib][ja][ka][kb][la][lc][ma][mb][mc][md][me]
[na][nd][ps][qs][rm][rn][rr][rs][sl][sn][so][sp][sq][sr][ss]
TR[an][dj]
)

Game 3 : 7th Apr | 09:00am | O (B) wins by 19.5
(
;
FF[4]
EV[Judan title,43,Japan,Sankei]
RO[3]
PB[Cho Chikun]
BR[9p]
PW[O Rissei]
WR[9p, Judan]
KM[6.5]
DT[2005-04-07]
PC[Japan]
RE[W+19.5]
SO[http://gobase.org/games/japan/titles/judan/43/game-03.sgf]
AP[sgf2misc:3.1.9]
;B[pd]W[dd]B[pp]W[ep]B[cp]W[cq]B[bq]W[dq]B[cm]W[iq]
;B[pj]W[nc]B[nd]W[md]B[ne]W[pc]B[qc]W[oc]B[qd]W[me]
;B[mf]W[kc]B[ng]W[qn]B[qo]W[pn]B[np]W[qk]B[qj]W[pk]
;B[ok]W[ol]B[nl]W[rj]B[ri]W[qi]B[pi]W[rk]B[nk]W[om]
;B[rn]W[rm]B[je]W[lf]B[le]W[ld]B[ke]W[ic]B[qh]W[lq]
;B[cf]W[fd]B[di]W[fm]B[cc]W[cd]B[bd]W[dj]B[cj]W[ck]
;B[dk]W[ej]B[ek]W[ci]B[bj]W[mg]B[nf]W[jg]B[fj]W[ei]
;B[dh]W[eh]B[dg]W[fk]B[fl]W[gk]B[gl]W[gj]B[em]W[be]
;B[bc]W[ce]B[eb]W[hl]B[gm]W[bi]B[bk]W[bg]B[ff]W[gf]
;B[gh]W[gg]B[fg]W[fh]B[gi]W[fi]B[ii]W[ih]B[eg]W[fj]
;B[hk]W[hj]B[ij]W[ik]B[hi]W[hk]B[jk]W[hm]B[if]W[ig]
;B[ge]W[he]B[bf]W[af]B[fe]W[hd]B[gd]W[gc]B[ed]W[fc]
;B[ee]W[dc]B[ec]W[cb]B[hf]W[hg]B[kf]W[kh]B[lh]W[ie]
;B[db]W[bb]B[ba]W[ad]B[li]W[jf]B[ca]W[ac]B[fb]W[gb]
;B[bc]W[bl]B[cl]W[ak]B[bm]W[ch]B[ah]W[ag]B[ai]W[bh]
;B[al]W[aj]B[ai]W[df]B[cg]W[de]B[ab]W[aa]B[hn]W[im]
;B[ab]W[cc]B[aj]W[aa]B[ah]W[ae]B[ab]W[da]B[ea]W[aa]
;B[hb]W[hc]B[ab]W[hp]B[ro]W[aa]B[sm]W[sl]B[ab]W[lo]
;B[in]W[jm]B[jn]W[km]B[kn]W[lm]B[ln]W[aa]B[qm]W[da]
;B[mm]W[sn]B[ll]W[ca]B[mq]W[mr]B[ql]W[oq]B[oo]W[pq]
;B[on]W[pm]B[sj]W[mo]B[nm]W[nq]B[rq]W[br]B[bp]W[qq]
;B[rr]W[qp]B[po]W[qb]B[rb]W[pb]B[mp]W[lp]B[jp]W[jq]
;B[qr]W[go]B[gn]W[ra]B[sb]W[ki]B[kj]W[kg]B[lg]W[ji]
;B[jj]W[fo]B[ar]W[bs]B[pr]W[do]B[kl]W[ef]B[lr]W[nr]
;B[kr]W[kq]B[jd]W[jc]B[co]W[od]B[oe]W[rp]B[sp]W[dn]
;B[or]W[jr]B[fn]W[os]B[dp]W[nn]B[pl]W[rc]B[rd]W[ks]
;B[eq]W[er]B[fq]W[fr]B[ps]W[ns]B[cn]W[dm]B[ho]W[gq]
;B[dl]W[eo]B[ip]W[ko]B[jo]W[kd]B[jl]W[fa]AB[lf][sc]AW[cr]
[ls]TW[pa][ob][oa][nb][na][ms][mc][mb][ma][lr][lc][lb][la]
[kr][kb][ka][js][jh][jb][ja][is][ir][if][ib][ia][hs][hr][hq]
[hf][hb][ha][gs][gr][gp][ge][gd][ga][fs][fq][fp][fg][ff][fe]
[fb][es][eq][eg][ee][ed][ec][eb][ea][ds][dr][di][dh][dg][db]
[cs][cg][cf][bf][bd][bc][ba][ab]TB[ss][sr][sq][so][sn][sm]
[sl][sk][si][sh][sg][sf][se][sd][rs][rm][rl][rk][rj][rh][rg]
[rf][re][rc][qs][qn][qk][qi][qg][qf][qe][pn][pm][pk][ph][pg]
[pf][pe][om][ol][oj][oi][oh][og][of][nj][ni][nh][ml][mk][mj]
[mi][mh][mg][lk][lj][kk][io][fm][el][ck][bo][bn][bl][ap][ao]
[an][am][ak]TR[sc][ls][lf][cr]
)

Game 4 : 14th Apr | 09:00am | Cho (W) wins by resign
(
;
FF[4]
EV[Judan title,43,Japan,Sankei]
RO[4]
PB[O Rissei]
BR[9p, Judan]
PW[Cho Chikun]
WR[9p]
KM[6.5]
DT[2005-04-14]
PC[Japan]
RE[W+R]
SO[http://gobase.org/games/japan/titles/judan/43/game-04.sgf]
AP[sgf2misc:3.1.9]
;B[pd]W[dd]B[pq]W[dq]B[do]W[co]B[dn]W[cn]B[dp]W[cp]
;B[eq]W[dm]B[cq]W[dr]B[bq]W[cr]B[cm]W[cl]B[br]W[er]
;B[bm]W[bn]B[bl]W[bp]B[fq]W[em]B[fo]W[fr]B[ck]W[gq]
;B[gp]W[hq]B[fm]W[el]B[ch]W[di]B[ao]W[ap]B[an]W[ar]
;B[bs]W[cs]B[am]W[aq]B[ci]W[dk]B[cj]W[gk]B[hp]W[ip]
;B[io]W[jp]B[jo]W[kp]B[gm]W[fc]B[qo]W[nc]B[pf]W[pb]
;B[ij]W[qc]B[md]W[nd]B[me]W[mc]B[kd]W[ne]B[nf]W[mf]
;B[ng]W[lf]B[ke]W[jg]B[kg]W[kf]B[jf]W[kh]B[ig]W[lg]
;B[ih]W[je]B[if]W[jd]B[jc]W[id]B[hd]W[ic]B[hc]W[ib]
;B[hb]W[jb]B[ef]W[fe]B[ff]W[he]B[ee]W[ge]B[ed]W[ec]
;B[ce]W[qi]B[nj]W[cd]B[be]W[ql]B[rh]W[qh]B[rg]W[ri]
;B[ok]W[rn]B[qk]W[rk]B[qj]W[rj]B[qm]W[qn]B[pm]W[rm]
;B[pl]W[rl]B[po]W[ro]B[lq]W[lp]B[mq]W[re]B[jr]W[ir]
;B[rf]W[qe]B[pg]W[pn]B[on]W[qp]B[pp]W[qq]B[bc]W[kj]
;B[jk]W[pr]B[or]W[qr]B[jq]W[iq]B[no]W[bd]B[ad]W[cb]
;B[cc]W[dc]B[bb]W[db]B[ba]W[kq]B[kr]W[nr]B[os]W[jm]
;B[kk]W[kn]B[ko]W[nq]B[mr]W[np]B[mp]W[lo]B[ln]W[mo]
;B[mn]W[ms]B[oq]W[lr]B[fd]W[gd]B[lj]W[li]B[mi]W[oi]
;B[mh]W[pe]
)

Game 5 : 27th Apr | 09:00am

cipheralex
Crew


Nesty_Angel

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 7:39 pm


i woudln't mind taking a look at those games either! 3nodding
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 7:42 pm


crying Sai.. do you have the log in and password for this site? without them, I can't see the matchs charts.. gonk

and I can't rigester.. because all my e-mail accounts are on the free servers.. crying

cipheralex
Crew


cipheralex
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:55 am


umm.. Sai.. please check to see if I get the right match chart.. if you can.. ^^;; I got them off of a japanese site.. ._.;;
PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:59 pm


yep, they're correct. thanks!^^

i haven't studied the games fully yet, but i was able to watch the broadcast of game 4 on igs, and see the first few moves before i had to leave. game 4 was one of the more interesting ones, b/c o rissei initiated the large avalanche joseki in the bottom left corner (the large avalanche joseki is one of the most complicated joseki, though the taisha is by far *the* most complicated)

Kuro Neko Hourou
Crew


cipheralex
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:28 pm


._. I am sorry to say.. sai.. I did not get what you said about the left coner.. ._.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:30 pm


lol, sorry^^;;; here's a simple translation of what i said:

the large avalanche joseki was the sequence that was played in the bottom left corner. its a very complicated sequence that gets very bloody.

Kuro Neko Hourou
Crew


cipheralex
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:43 pm


^^;; yea.. bloody.. indeed.. bloody painful for me to keep up.. -_-;; redface the match that is.. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:59 pm


hehe^^, nothing to worry about.

Kuro Neko Hourou
Crew


Nesty_Angel

PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:07 pm


inother works ciph, a big battle started there smile
PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:05 am


yea.. 3 more game to go... and we will see who gets the title.. ._. 3nodding

cipheralex
Crew


Nesty_Angel

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:18 pm


i'm waiting for a reply from those go sites so that i can be a member,,,,, i want to few some of the old school matches
PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:38 pm


uh.. old school, ya mean the classical era (shusaku, etc.)?

Kuro Neko Hourou
Crew


cipheralex
Crew

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:35 pm


umm.. sai.. is there anyway to input these charts as SGF files.. or something that we can run using the go servers? cause I am having a hard time keeping up with their moves.. ._. stressed
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