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 Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:31 pm
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14460213Be advised, this is pockybot (NAMEDROP!) we're talking about. Apparently, it's patriotic to believe that the events of 9/11 were nothing but a hoax and that it's just our government trying to find a way to go to war, because it was just itching to spill some muslim blood. In other words, "I'm a patriot even though I don't support my nation for anything it does, I only support it because it allows me to say a bunch of crap like this!" I know that we have the First Amendment to protect people's freedom of speech, but when you have to listen to the good, the bad and the totally batshit crazy, it can get hard to deal with. But I guess that's what makes the US great: we allow people to say what they want, no matter what they have to say.
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:26 pm
Has he used the "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" line that is sometimes attributed to Thomas Jefferson yet? If he has, he's fallen for one of those hoax he keeps going on about. I think it is an exercise in framing the issue and indulging in ego inflating: after all, if you are in on something massive secret (whether it is real or not) you are in an elite club of people who also know and can feel heroic trying to stand up to the alleged conspiracy.
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:06 pm
And this is why I've given up on democracy, or even a republic. You can't trust the masses to think when your're dealing with nothing but "get 'er done!", and "support our troops, because it's the traditional thing to do!"
A democracy can only be trusted to intellectuals who choose to be patriots because they see our military actions as valid, our laws as effective, and our politicians' actions (while self-serving), as promoting a strong economy with respect to rewarding individual achievement.
But a dictatorship, especially a capitalist dictatorship, is far more appropriate for America.
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:37 am
Scorpio And this is why I've given up on democracy, or even a republic. You can't trust the masses to think when your're dealing with nothing but "get 'er done!", and "support our troops, because it's the traditional thing to do!" A democracy can only be trusted to intellectuals who choose to be patriots because they see our military actions as valid, our laws as effective, and our politicians' actions (while self-serving), as promoting a strong economy with respect to rewarding individual achievement. But a dictatorship, especially a capitalist dictatorship, is far more appropriate for America. At this point, I'm inclined to agree with you. Coulter in '08~
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:52 pm
The big thing about conspiracy theory, at least waht I tell people, is that they seem to ignore the most important word of the two: theory. A theory is not proven, it is a hypothesis, a possibility. Only when a theory is proven does it become true. Until then, a theory is not true.
So far, all he can back up his "information" with is a bunch of obviously-biased sites. I wonder if anyone has told him that Internets doesn't hold all of the answers?
I guess it bothers me that there are people on Gaia who don't have much of an opinion on the matter, then when they read what he has to say all of a sudden they're like, "Wow! I didn't know that was true, but I had a sneaking suspicion!"
Is there a group that specializes in debunking the debunkers?
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:58 pm
BrunoMcCloud Scorpio And this is why I've given up on democracy, or even a republic. You can't trust the masses to think when your're dealing with nothing but "get 'er done!", and "support our troops, because it's the traditional thing to do!" A democracy can only be trusted to intellectuals who choose to be patriots because they see our military actions as valid, our laws as effective, and our politicians' actions (while self-serving), as promoting a strong economy with respect to rewarding individual achievement. But a dictatorship, especially a capitalist dictatorship, is far more appropriate for America. At this point, I'm inclined to agree with you. Coulter in '08~ Nah, Ann Coulter is still too weak for a proper dictatorship. We need someone like Patton or MacArthur to take control
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:02 pm
Scorpio BrunoMcCloud Scorpio And this is why I've given up on democracy, or even a republic. You can't trust the masses to think when your're dealing with nothing but "get 'er done!", and "support our troops, because it's the traditional thing to do!" A democracy can only be trusted to intellectuals who choose to be patriots because they see our military actions as valid, our laws as effective, and our politicians' actions (while self-serving), as promoting a strong economy with respect to rewarding individual achievement. But a dictatorship, especially a capitalist dictatorship, is far more appropriate for America. At this point, I'm inclined to agree with you. Coulter in '08~ Nah, Ann Coulter is still too weak for a proper dictatorship. We need someone like Patton or MacArthur to take control Savage in '08!
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:51 pm
Not Savage, Savage is kind of an idiot. I have a better recommendation, exept it'll have to wait about 20 years or so. This is a namedrop, but we should nominate Aramek2.
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:02 am
Der_Freischuetz Not Savage, Savage is kind of an idiot. I have a better recommendation, exept it'll have to wait about 20 years or so. This is a namedrop, but we should nominate Aramek2. well at least he has a sense of humour, something sorely lacking on gaia.
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:00 am
Scorpio BrunoMcCloud Scorpio And this is why I've given up on democracy, or even a republic. You can't trust the masses to think when your're dealing with nothing but "get 'er done!", and "support our troops, because it's the traditional thing to do!" A democracy can only be trusted to intellectuals who choose to be patriots because they see our military actions as valid, our laws as effective, and our politicians' actions (while self-serving), as promoting a strong economy with respect to rewarding individual achievement. But a dictatorship, especially a capitalist dictatorship, is far more appropriate for America. At this point, I'm inclined to agree with you. Coulter in '08~ Nah, Ann Coulter is still too weak for a proper dictatorship. We need someone like Patton or MacArthur to take control *falls off of computer chair laughing* I need to make some Patton in '08 campaign signs!!!
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:24 pm
kitten22481 *falls off of computer chair laughing* I need to make some Patton in '08 campaign signs!!! Yes, let's bring Patton back from the dead. Along with John Wayne. And maybe Reagan.
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:03 am
Or we could effectively try to form our own political movement of militant reactionaries, with the model of our preferred political system an anarchist dictatorship (hey, if Hitler can mix Nationalism and Socialism, we can easily make anarchy and a dictatorship work).
It would be fairly simple to establish, and considering a cheap M48 Mauser or Mosin Nagant rifle can be bought for $100 at a local sporting goods store nowadays, in a very short period of time you could have an army of militant teenagers and college-aged activists in a nation where the majority of it's soldiers and National Guard are deployed overseas. Of course the disorganized militia (us American citizens) would hardly be able to do anything against a force of reasonable size if you apply basic Mao Tse' Tung guerrilla tactics.
Amazing how easy it would be, especially considering fighting low intensity combat with enemies who blend in perfectly not just with the citizens, but with the nation's own demographic for military recruiting
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