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Lysia
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:28 am


Just take them to my thread.

Pretty please.

It normally shuts them up, my first post is too long XD

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:29 am


I may be an anticreationist but I still believe in the human soul or spirit. Anticreationist doesn't automatically mean atheist you know. Just thought I should let you know.

Hayashi Rice
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Karasene

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:31 am


And then there's people like me who believe that not only humans but all living things have a soul.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:31 pm


Karasene
And then there's people like me who believe that not only humans but all living things have a soul.


Actually I believe that as well.

Hayashi Rice
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Karasene

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:07 pm


Wow... I'm not alone in the world. It's so hard to find people like that.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:25 pm


Karasene
Wow... I'm not alone in the world. It's so hard to find people like that.


Really? I think my girlfriend feels the same way too.

Hayashi Rice
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Lysia
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:36 am


So much love in this thread whee
PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:31 am


I don't believe in the soul on the grounds that the word 'soul' is interpreted by different people in different ways. For example, I use the word soul to mean the perceived essence of someone. Because I perceive someone's essence, or spirit, and because this is not a material thing, yes, I believe in it. I know it exists because it is just an idea in my head.

On the other hand, to other people, a soul is some sort of intangible object which contains energy and cross into other planes of existence upon death. This is a palpably stupid idea. The fact that someone else has labelled it as a soul means nothing to me. I don't believe in it, because it is a realist's idea, and realism is proveably wrong.

gigacannon
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Seanna

PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:48 pm


Karasene
Wow... I'm not alone in the world. It's so hard to find people like that.



actually, over in China its like an entire religion. We just did this huge thing on it in social studies. Basically, it's like all living things have a soul, I think that' show the shinto shrines came about (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm only half awake, I'll get documented proof and come back later) I think it was called anism or something (or was that the worship of ancestors? sweatdrop )
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:54 pm


saying a person has a soul is like saying they have love in their heart, everyone knows what your talking about, but, they also know its not exactly what it means.

you don't love with your heart, and your soul is just another word, in most cases, for your collected emotional and moral properties... at least thats what i've gathered.

k_gilmore


Kage ookami shonen

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:03 pm


i personally like the gaia theorey.... its nice and sound... no one can fight against it but no one can fight with it..... plus i like the idea of earth being a motherly soul..... ^^'..... probably not true but i like the idea ^^
PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:33 am


Xander LeMagre
I may be an anticreationist but I still believe in the human soul or spirit. Anticreationist doesn't automatically mean atheist you know. Just thought I should let you know.

Indeed. And atheist doesn't mean no belief in souls.

And no belief in free will doens't mean no belief in souls either: It all depends on what you define a soul as- I define it as a part of all living things with a brain, which is responsible for awareness, and reactions to things that are perceived- ie thought and emotion.

So a soul can and certainly does exist even if there is no free will, or if there is no god.

Mechanism
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Hayashi Rice
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:00 am


Shadroth
Xander LeMagre
I may be an anticreationist but I still believe in the human soul or spirit. Anticreationist doesn't automatically mean atheist you know. Just thought I should let you know.

Indeed. And atheist doesn't mean no belief in souls.

And no belief in free will doens't mean no belief in souls either: It all depends on what you define a soul as- I define it as a part of all living things with a brain, which is responsible for awareness, and reactions to things that are perceived- ie thought and emotion.

So a soul can and certainly does exist even if there is no free will, or if there is no god.


Actually, though it's not in the definition, atheists tend not to believe in souls either. It's all about what can be proven and such.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:12 am


Athiests don't necessarily rely on evidence. What if God is an abstract concept, or group of abstract concepts, representing moral worth, perfection, and salvation? The ideas of these things may exist, in and if you are aware of the idea, then you can be sure that God exists. Most people don't agree with that definition, but there is no correct meaning to a word, nor correct word for a meaning. For example, Americans use the word 'jelly' for the English word 'jam'. Same concept, different name. And 's**t' can mean lots of things... faeces, dope, whatever. There is no correct definition of the word.

With God undefined, atheists and agnostics, too, are undefined, making it impossible to make definitive statements about them. This is why I don't use those words to describe myself.

gigacannon
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Mechanism
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 3:08 am


The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names.
-Chinese Proverb

Yes, words can be damned annoying when it comes to exact definitions of things, in regards to arguing about an issue.
This is why debaters define the words in the debate before they start. And that's what the dictionary is for xd
Dictionary.com
God:
A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.


Anyway, as I see it, many agnostics and atheists don't necessarily not believe in god. They just don't blindly believe in god. Because believing that god can't exist is just as foolish as taking god's existence as the gospel truth.

But anyway, by MY definition, the existence of my soul is undeniable.
"A soul is the part of us responsible for the perception or awareness of anything- which allows us to think and have emotions based on that perception."
the dictionary definition is
Dictionary.com
Soul:
The animating and vital principle in humans, credited with the faculties of thought, action, and emotion and often conceived as an immaterial entity.
The spiritual nature of humans, regarded as immortal, separable from the body at death, and susceptible to happiness or misery in a future state.
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