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More than 1000 soldiers have been killed. I really suck at expressing. I guess this is just a place to debate. I need to start writing my will. Omnispork is gonna destroy me.

in an online chat with pogo and sweetnightmare, i was exsplaining what I 1. thought was the reason it's rare to be on at the same time as another dork and 2. what makes a guild a succes. As to the first on, the reason one is hasrdy ever on at the same time as another dork is because their are rarely new threads. in the normal forums there are always new things to post on, so you stick around and post. your on longer because there is more to do. On the guild there are usaly 4-15 new posts to readm and possibly respond to. This does not take long and there is nothing to do afterwards, so one goes somwere else. to keep the giuld going, we need new threads more often. i can only state my opions on fish so many times. I've seen the nnumber of new posts i see per day go from 30 to maybe 8 becuase we are running out of things to say on the threads we have. this ties into my second point; what makes a guild a succes? the answer is the volume and quality of the threads on the guild. it's what killed the original dork guild. They had a membership to draw on from the dork giuld in the old guild thread but still died becuase the only had about 12 threads. If we want to stay alive we have to find new things to talk about.

what does this have to do with the issue at hand? im getting close to that. i was trying to figure out why new members dont stay. i looked at our threads and relized that the vast majority of them are "post your info and leave" threads. they ask a simple qeustion asking for one to provided easy facts. our threads asking for opioins are either chaterbox threads with a theme, threads were all the opions are exspected to be positive, or ask you to state your opinons with out any disscusion. The normal forums, which people dont post once and never return to, are full of threads that state opinions the threads auther knows other people wont agree with, but belives in. It is this kind of thread that the guild is missing. We dont have this. the normal forums do. members dont post on our guild after they join. they do post on the main forums. It tracks that it's the lack of these kinds of threads that are keeping people from staying.

i told this to sweetnightmare and she thought of issuse she felt were issuses relevent to the guild and it's members and that she had a belif she could defend to make threads out of. thats how the this post and the one about online marrige came about.

i belive the reason both her threads exspresed negitive veiw points is becuse we as humans feel the strongest about things we dont like. we often take for granted things we see as right. it's the mistakes of the world that realy bug us.

My thoughts on iraq would take to long to post, so im goin to let somwon else state thier opinion. Ill contemplate and respond to it.

i've heard that said alot, but what i hav'nt heard waid is *HOW* it could havebeen handled beter, based on the info they had at the time.

there are two main resons i belive it was correct to destroy Saddam's regiem. 1. we had told them that if they did not meet certain requirements they would be destroyed. This happend back in Bush the firsts day. The Iraqi goverment did not meet these requirments. If we had ignored this fact then our enemies everywhere will question the validity of the threats we've layed against them. it's the threat of consequence, not the consequence itself that keeps all but the most unwise in check. 2. Saddams control of Iraq has been a drastic unstabling element in the middle east. Not only has he tried to conqour his neihbors, he has been irrationaly cruel to his own subjects. To Saddam, the country exsisted for his benifit, instead of the otherway around. Whithout exsternal intervention nothing in the country would have changed. when i see U.S. causlties quoted i marvel at how small our losses have been. in the last Great War millions died. In that war we fought to protect our selves; We were neutral up until we were actualy atacked. In this conflict i dont realy belive we were in that much danger. thats the real diffrence. this time were fighting not for the presnet well being of our nation, but for the future well being of anothers. I see little wrong with that. the people of iraq arnt American, but they are human, and thats what realy maters. I've been told that im unfeeling for thinking of American causulties as small, that any loss of life is to great. To them i say, Why dont you think of the peole who have and would be dead under Sadams control? the ratio of Americans killed by Sadams forces to Iraqi's killed by Sadam is Hugly unbalenced. By our troops sacrificing thier time and lives they are not only saving hundreds of thousands of lives, but more importantly improving the quality of life for infinite generations to come. As Spock is so apte to say, "The needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few"

yep. It's all about max/min your pros and cons. By the way, the way in which the beheading are done is so stupid. i'm gonna describe how it's done in white so you dont have to see it if you dont want to. They saw their heads off with a ******** knife! Get a sword for pete's sake! It's faster, cleaner, and easier. Dumbasses.