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 Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:32 pm
Every day passing, life goes on...
but you get alot of little things in life you dont notice but they are real miricals!
the sages of israel teach: "every DAY a man walks the earth he should think as if it was a mirical". but even if is a little too much for you to accept, think about that time when your ball fell into the street and almost got "smoshed" dont you think... it was a little mirical.
Tell me: (no cookies on me please!)
1. what do you think?
2. is this subject too out of place?
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:34 pm
I dont consider them miracles, just fate.
If you were meant to get smooshed by a car, you would have been smooshed by the car.
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:38 pm
what about the part of "another day alive"? question
anyay i didnt mean the "smoosh" mirical i worte had to be that one it could any kind of little mirical.
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:43 pm
i dont believe them as miracles, only as fate
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:44 pm
Donovinhs Knight i dont believe them as miracles, only as fate define "fate" define "miracle"
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:49 pm
ZonkotheSane Donovinhs Knight i dont believe them as miracles, only as fate define "fate" define "miracle" Miracle: An event that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature and so is held to be supernatural in origin or an act of G-d Fate: The supposed force, principle, or power that predetermines events and the inevitable events predestined by this force.
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:52 pm
Donovinhs Knight ZonkotheSane Donovinhs Knight i dont believe them as miracles, only as fate define "fate" define "miracle" Miracle: An event that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature and so is held to be supernatural in origin or an act of G-d Fate: The supposed force, principle, or power that predetermines events and the inevitable events predestined by this force. you know sages tell us that there IS no fate the thing people call "fate" is all done by hashem (god) god decides fate! there is no fate.
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:58 pm
tsvi_tyl you know sages tell us that there IS no fate the thing people call "fate" is all done by hashem (god) god decides fate! there is no fate. if g-d decides fate, there is still fate cool
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:05 pm
Donovinhs Knight tsvi_tyl you know sages tell us that there IS no fate the thing people call "fate" is all done by hashem (god) god decides fate! there is no fate. if g-d decides fate, there is still fate cool then all miracles are determined by fate. hmm, "inexplicable by laws of nature"... tell me, how do i wake up every morining?
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:06 pm
ZonkotheSane Donovinhs Knight tsvi_tyl you know sages tell us that there IS no fate the thing people call "fate" is all done by hashem (god) god decides fate! there is no fate. if g-d decides fate, there is still fate cool then all miracles are determined by fate. hmm, "inexplicable by laws of nature"... tell me, how do i wake up every morining? your body as gotten its rest and no longer needs to relax and build up energy 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:35 pm
Donovinhs Knight ZonkotheSane Donovinhs Knight tsvi_tyl you know sages tell us that there IS no fate the thing people call "fate" is all done by hashem (god) god decides fate! there is no fate. if g-d decides fate, there is still fate cool then all miracles are determined by fate. hmm, "inexplicable by laws of nature"... tell me, how do i wake up every morining? your body as gotten its rest and no longer needs to relax and build up energy 3nodding so you say some bodies just don't get enough rest so they dont wake up?
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:42 pm
nathan_ngl so you say some bodies just don't get enough rest so they dont wake up? I was only talking about sleeping. There are other things like coma's and what not which happen for other reasons, but thats not really the point. The point is that explainable things in my opinion arent miracles.
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:50 pm
Donovinhs Knight nathan_ngl so you say some bodies just don't get enough rest so they dont wake up? I was only talking about sleeping. There are other things like coma's and what not which happen for other reasons, but thats not really the point. The point is that explainable things in my opinion arent miracles. Tell me, is the creation of the world explainable? Is the creation of man? Is the very fact of life, a new born baby, a tree from a tiny seed... are those all explainable? Or are they really miricals?
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:57 pm
nathan_ngl Donovinhs Knight nathan_ngl so you say some bodies just don't get enough rest so they dont wake up? I was only talking about sleeping. There are other things like coma's and what not which happen for other reasons, but thats not really the point. The point is that explainable things in my opinion arent miracles. Tell me, is the creation of the world explainable? Is the creation of man? Is the very fact of life, a new born baby, a tree from a tiny seed... are those all explainable? Or are they really miricals? creation of the world, yes and no depending on the source you look at. scientifically there is just guess so its not a true explanation, religiously its explainable but that would be a miracle. same with creation of man. these are miracles because g-d made them happen out of thin air. growth of a life form can be explaned through an understanding of how its created. so babies, trees and any life that grows isnt a miracle in my opinion
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:04 pm
Donovinhs Knight nathan_ngl Donovinhs Knight nathan_ngl so you say some bodies just don't get enough rest so they dont wake up? I was only talking about sleeping. There are other things like coma's and what not which happen for other reasons, but thats not really the point. The point is that explainable things in my opinion arent miracles. Tell me, is the creation of the world explainable? Is the creation of man? Is the very fact of life, a new born baby, a tree from a tiny seed... are those all explainable? Or are they really miricals? creation of the world, yes and no depending on the source you look at. scientifically there is just guess so its not a true explanation, religiously its explainable but that would be a miracle. same with creation of man. these are miracles because g-d made them happen out of thin air. growth of a life form can be explaned through an understanding of how its created. so babies, trees and any life that grows isnt a miracle in my opinion How can such an incriedible thing not be a mirical? It's far too complicated to be explained as a sientific coincidence! You see in the birth of a child, in the growth of the tree the carefull planning of G-d, how he runs the world, how everything is balanced!
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