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Apparently, we Pro-Lifers are hypocrits if we do not support abortion in the case of rape. The evidence to support this? Our argument, note that is singular since we apparently only have one, is "Oh, the mother consented to the sex, she should have the baby."

Reading this made me curious. That's my argument? I'm only allowed one? I could've sworn I had a lot more... Oh wait! That's right, I -do- have more! Phew. That was close. sweatdrop

So I thought it would be a good idea to make a thread in which to pour all our greatest arguments. smile

This could also be helpful for new Pro-Life debators who need more "ammo," if you will. More explanations.

I'll add my own contributions as soon as I can, but I'm... Busy... With a couple of things right now. ninja

EDIT: I've decided I'm a complete moron, and this thread is really kind of wasteful, because our arguments are all over the guild. If Pro-Choicers want to see our arguments, they can damned well go find them for themselves, I'm not going to make it any easier for them. There are just too many. blaugh I should've just posted this in the rant thread.

I.Am as a response to your quotation of me -- since, I read that and was like, "Damn, that sounds familiar, Oh wait..."

Don't pretend that I have somehow lessened the Pro-Life argument. I am constantly hearing, "Oh, she made her choice when she had sex."
"Oh, she consented to it."
And I pointed out that I found that hyprocritical when they then say, "Oh, she got raped, she shouldn't have an Abortion. She should just give up for adoption, etc" even though she didn't consent to the sex.

I'm not here for a debate. I use the "The Abortion Thread" located in scenic Extended Discussion for debate. Why? I don't check this guild that often, I only did it today because I heard some news on the Banner plagarism. Also, I wouldn't want to ruin your Pro-Life sanctuary, and I don't really see guilds (especially our opposing ones) as a place to debate.

So if you have a reply, either message it to me or post it there. It's funny though, I see my arguments posted here far more often than I do in the actual debate thread. Woe is me.

Yes, it generally is. However, it can be taken both ways because it's also a justifcation for those who are Pro-Life and only make exceptions in the case of Rape. They often, also, say that "Oh, well she didn't consent to the sex, so, she didn't consent to the possibility slash risks of a fetus in her body."

That's what I was generally thinking of slash referring to.



I agree with you. o.o Well, about the child support thing. I think that if a woman chooses not to have an Abortion, but the male doesn't want any responsibility with the child there should be a quick way through the courts that the male can give up all parental rights and the female can't take a penny from him.

I do agree that that is unequal and unfair.
However, if both want the child, then their is a divorce -- then whichever parent with custody should be paid child support.

And... alright. Bye! heart

I don't know how I made it seem as if that was your only argument because I didn't really address that in detail, especially since I was throwing out many different topics and issues that made me go, "What?"
And it's taking so much self control not to debate =( Especially when you said person, which, I also believe, was one of the topics I threw out there in the original post. Ahem, anyways. I'm tired, my mind is shot, bedtime!

Not really, then no one would see it. sweatdrop We can start a new one if Mikami wants to debate.

I don't remember for certain whether or not you mentioned person, and I'm too multitasked right now to check, but I -do- remember that you said Pro-Lifers who are against abortion in the case of rape are hypocrits because of that argument.

Which would imply that it is our only argument, as otherwise there would be the possibility of us having an argument specifically for why rape is not an exception. Those of us who have that opinion, anyways.

stare ....Nooo, she should have the baby because...it's...a...baby. It's another person and taking another person's life is wrong. Always. Doesn't matter where that person came from, doesn't matter what they did. Nobody has more of a right to life than anyone else. There's no difference between sexism, racism and ageism, they are all based on the idea that one person is better than another. And they're all wrong.

What I want to know is why would they think that we would support abortion agaist rape if most pro-lifers don't support it at all (some don't even support it if the mother is dying, but I personally see it as an exception since what if she already has kids? I don't want either to die but something times it not always like that, mainly i'm more personal pro-life really)?
To me, rape or not the fetus is still a fetus, there is no difference so I still don't support it (or iffy about it, one point I understand it is painful but still if the mother and baby is healthy for the most part, it's still killing it for no real reason, it was still a fetus/unborn baby that could have a perfectally normal live...and the mother could get help and give it up for adoption).

What I find ironic is, they are for abortion cause they said no human has the right to force something on another human (or something like that), yet abortion is doing that very thing they are against. Forcing something on another human, in this case it's forcing death on another. Hmmm...and they call us hypocrites?