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Imotoku

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:35 pm


Im here to ask christians, can evolution co-exist with the Bible. Does the Bible allow evolution?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:45 pm


What, are people afraid of this subject or something? sad

Imotoku


Luphstorm

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:22 pm


No. We've just kinda went over it. Well maybe not.

According to the bible everything was created at the same time. Now there is variation. But there isn't evolution on the scale that evolutionists would have us believe.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:29 pm


(Maybe more people would post if you didn't demand proof, which most people don't have. sweatdrop )

flyingemu27
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Imotoku

PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:49 pm


flyingemu27
(Maybe more people would post if you didn't demand proof, which most people don't have. sweatdrop )
Maybe your right, but then people will just throw stuff and then expect it to be a real debate. They wont be able to back themselves up. I'll take that part out then and see what happenes.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:04 pm


Imotoku
flyingemu27
(Maybe more people would post if you didn't demand proof, which most people don't have. sweatdrop )
Maybe your right, but then people will just throw stuff and then expect it to be a real debate. They wont be able to back themselves up. I'll take that part out then and see what happenes.


Yeah, cause you asked a very deep question that nobody knows the answer to. You shouldn't expect everyone to have a book written about it in their hands to use as a source.

So what I think, first of all, is this: it doesn't matter. I'm pretty sure that whether or not we think evolution did or did not happen does not decide our eternity.

Now for my personal opinion, I believe that it is possible that God could have guided evolution. Though, I don't prefer to stick to that. I just like to think that God created the Earth in six regular days, and that all the animals were created at that time. Though, I guess it could be possible that after that point animals changed slightly when their habitat changed and they had to "evolve" slightly to survive. And, of course, I believe that if this happened, it was all guided and enforced by God.

I choose not to believe that everything came from just one cell, which multiplied, and kept on getting more and more complex and stuff. I mean, cuase if God could create one cell, why not create quntillions upon quintillions of them at once? But I, of course, can't say what did or did not happen. Only God knows for sure. 3nodding

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SuperSonico

PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:42 am


flyingemu27
Imotoku
flyingemu27
(Maybe more people would post if you didn't demand proof, which most people don't have. sweatdrop )
Maybe your right, but then people will just throw stuff and then expect it to be a real debate. They wont be able to back themselves up. I'll take that part out then and see what happenes.


Yeah, cause you asked a very deep question that nobody knows the answer to. You shouldn't expect everyone to have a book written about it in their hands to use as a source.

So what I think, first of all, is this: it doesn't matter. I'm pretty sure that whether or not we think evolution did or did not happen does not decide our eternity.

Now for my personal opinion, I believe that it is possible that God could have guided evolution. Though, I don't prefer to stick to that. I just like to think that God created the Earth in six regular days, and that all the animals were created at that time. Though, I guess it could be possible that after that point animals changed slightly when their habitat changed and they had to "evolve" slightly to survive. And, of course, I believe that if this happened, it was all guided and enforced by God.

I choose not to believe that everything came from just one cell, which multiplied, and kept on getting more and more complex and stuff. I mean, cuase if God could create one cell, why not create quntillions upon quintillions of them at once? But I, of course, can't say what did or did not happen. Only God knows for sure. 3nodding
Good point. Also, it is posible for the earth to have been created in thousands or millions of years (according to our time standards we keep now). Remember the passage from 2 Peter 3:8 "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:40 pm


SuperSonico
flyingemu27
Imotoku
flyingemu27
(Maybe more people would post if you didn't demand proof, which most people don't have. sweatdrop )
Maybe your right, but then people will just throw stuff and then expect it to be a real debate. They wont be able to back themselves up. I'll take that part out then and see what happenes.


Yeah, cause you asked a very deep question that nobody knows the answer to. You shouldn't expect everyone to have a book written about it in their hands to use as a source.

So what I think, first of all, is this: it doesn't matter. I'm pretty sure that whether or not we think evolution did or did not happen does not decide our eternity.

Now for my personal opinion, I believe that it is possible that God could have guided evolution. Though, I don't prefer to stick to that. I just like to think that God created the Earth in six regular days, and that all the animals were created at that time. Though, I guess it could be possible that after that point animals changed slightly when their habitat changed and they had to "evolve" slightly to survive. And, of course, I believe that if this happened, it was all guided and enforced by God.

I choose not to believe that everything came from just one cell, which multiplied, and kept on getting more and more complex and stuff. I mean, cuase if God could create one cell, why not create quntillions upon quintillions of them at once? But I, of course, can't say what did or did not happen. Only God knows for sure. 3nodding
Good point. Also, it is posible for the earth to have been created in thousands or millions of years (according to our time standards we keep now). Remember the passage from 2 Peter 3:8 "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."


Yeah, that's a good point too. That could have been what happened.

flyingemu27
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zeroshi

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:52 am


Woah! Now that's crazy...So they can co-exist now? confused
PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:13 pm


Not on the same scale that most people believe.

kingwarp


Allythea

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:48 pm


I suppose I can mention what I little I know. Anyways, in all of earth's history there is actually no evidence supporting the theory of evolution. If there were evidence supporting the theory of evolution we would see it in fossils. We would see the bone formations of fossils slowly changing over periods of time. In actuality we have not and the top evolutionists of this world have been quoted to admitting to this. I like to favour with the creation scientists.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:00 am


I also do not believe in evelution. Only in what the bible says on God created everything around us.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:45 pm


First thing with this whole evolution thing people base it off of the first chapter of genesis which is a totally false thing to base it off. Because if you read further into Genesis God totally wiped out the world with a gaint flood. Killing all of mankind except for Noah, his wife, his sons, and their wives. Also killing every kind of animal that was not on that Arc. When Noah got on the Arc he was 600 years old and when he got off he was 601. Anyways here's a scripture for the animals that were allowed on the arc.

Quote:
Genesis 7:1-3 Finally, the day came when the Lord said to Noah, "Go into the boat with all your family, for among all of the people of the earth, I consider you alone to be righteous. Take along seven pairs of each animal that I have approved for eating and for sacrifice, and take one pair of each of the others. Then select seven pairs of every kind of bird. There must be a male and female in each pair to enurse that every kind of living creature will survive the flood.


So God created every kind of living creature. It states it right there, so why even question evolution? The Earth was destoryed but then they mated and multiplied and the Earth was once filled again. And it's quite possible that animals corss bred and the eventually a new breed came out. They do it all the time with birds and dogs, so they can get more money now a days. There's a new breed of dog called puggles. It's a pug and a beagle mix, but it has now been made a breed. And with parrots and birds, they cross breed them all the time and come up with new breeds constantly. So evolution, no? But do we get more breeds, yes. But not because they evolved simply because God's creations cross bred and came up with a new breed.

(( And don't tell me it's not possible for animals to cross breed. Just look at all the muts running around (dog wise) then also look at people. Their are people who are more than one race. If we are higher up than animals and we have relations with other races, what do you think is keeping the animals from doing the same? Nothing cause they do. And I'm not saying there is anything wrong with mixed babies, because I honestly don't think it's wrong. Never have nor will I. ESP since my niece is mixed. Just putting that disclaimer.)
PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:51 pm


SaraRenee
First thing with this whole evolution thing people base it off of the first chapter of genesis which is a totally false thing to base it off. Because if you read further into Genesis God totally wiped out the world with a gaint flood. Killing all of mankind except for Noah, his wife, his sons, and their wives. Also killing every kind of animal that was not on that Arc. When Noah got on the Arc he was 600 years old and when he got off he was 601. Anyways here's a scripture for the animals that were allowed on the arc.

Quote:
Genesis 7:1-3 Finally, the day came when the Lord said to Noah, "Go into the boat with all your family, for among all of the people of the earth, I consider you alone to be righteous. Take along seven pairs of each animal that I have approved for eating and for sacrifice, and take one pair of each of the others. Then select seven pairs of every kind of bird. There must be a male and female in each pair to enurse that every kind of living creature will survive the flood.


So God created every kind of living creature. It states it right there, so why even question evolution? The Earth was destoryed but then they mated and multiplied and the Earth was once filled again. And it's quite possible that animals corss bred and the eventually a new breed came out. They do it all the time with birds and dogs, so they can get more money now a days. There's a new breed of dog called puggles. It's a pug and a beagle mix, but it has now been made a breed. And with parrots and birds, they cross breed them all the time and come up with new breeds constantly. So evolution, no? But do we get more breeds, yes. But not because they evolved simply because God's creations cross bred and came up with a new breed.

(( And don't tell me it's not possible for animals to cross breed. Just look at all the muts running around (dog wise) then also look at people. Their are people who are more than one race. If we are higher up than animals and we have relations with other races, what do you think is keeping the animals from doing the same? Nothing cause they do. And I'm not saying there is anything wrong with mixed babies, because I honestly don't think it's wrong. Never have nor will I. ESP since my niece is mixed. Just putting that disclaimer.)
That is basically what I believe. I think God gave them the gift to multiply and fill the Earth. And they did. If they mix then they mix, not evolve from one cell. Evolution really runs into problems when they try to use it to explain the origin of everything.

Imotoku


Allythea

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:41 pm


SaraRenee
First thing with this whole evolution thing people base it off of the first chapter of genesis which is a totally false thing to base it off. Because if you read further into Genesis God totally wiped out the world with a gaint flood. Killing all of mankind except for Noah, his wife, his sons, and their wives. Also killing every kind of animal that was not on that Arc. When Noah got on the Arc he was 600 years old and when he got off he was 601. Anyways here's a scripture for the animals that were allowed on the arc.

Quote:
Genesis 7:1-3 Finally, the day came when the Lord said to Noah, "Go into the boat with all your family, for among all of the people of the earth, I consider you alone to be righteous. Take along seven pairs of each animal that I have approved for eating and for sacrifice, and take one pair of each of the others. Then select seven pairs of every kind of bird. There must be a male and female in each pair to enurse that every kind of living creature will survive the flood.


So God created every kind of living creature. It states it right there, so why even question evolution? The Earth was destoryed but then they mated and multiplied and the Earth was once filled again. And it's quite possible that animals corss bred and the eventually a new breed came out. They do it all the time with birds and dogs, so they can get more money now a days. There's a new breed of dog called puggles. It's a pug and a beagle mix, but it has now been made a breed. And with parrots and birds, they cross breed them all the time and come up with new breeds constantly. So evolution, no? But do we get more breeds, yes. But not because they evolved simply because God's creations cross bred and came up with a new breed.

(( And don't tell me it's not possible for animals to cross breed. Just look at all the muts running around (dog wise) then also look at people. Their are people who are more than one race. If we are higher up than animals and we have relations with other races, what do you think is keeping the animals from doing the same? Nothing cause they do. And I'm not saying there is anything wrong with mixed babies, because I honestly don't think it's wrong. Never have nor will I. ESP since my niece is mixed. Just putting that disclaimer.)


Interesting point, but I am not sure if there is evidence to show that a different species can cross breed- again I am not sure. Cross breeding that happens today is usually from the same species.
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