Welcome to Gaia! ::

The ALL YOU GODDAMNED GAIANS *SUCK* Guild

Back to Guilds

 

 

Reply AYGGS General Discussion thread
OK, who has looked at their Windows XP updater lately?

Quick Reply

Enter both words below, separated by a space:

Can't read the text? Click here

Submit

Floyd

Quotable Prophet

14,750 Points
  • Money Never Sleeps 200
  • Entrepreneur 150
  • Wall Street 200
PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:03 pm


Max sent this article to me. Makes me very, very glad I don't use Windows XP.

From http://www.informationweek.com/internet/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=188703441

Quote:
Microsoft's Anti-Piracy Tool Draws Criticism, Changes Planned

In addition, the software maker has come under fire for failing to make it clear to people installing Windows Genuine Advantage that the application communicates with Microsoft on a daily basis to do things like ensure that the Windows copy being used isn't pirated.

By Antone Gonsalves
TechWeb News

Jun 9, 2006 04:38 PM

Microsoft Corp. is being criticized for distributing its Windows XP anti-piracy tool in a way that may leave many PC users in the dark as to what they are actually downloading.

In addition, the software maker has come under fire for failing to make it clear to people installing Windows Genuine Advantage (WGA) that the application communicates with Microsoft on a daily basis.

Microsoft on Friday acknowledged that it could have done a better job in explaining how the software behaves. The application is currently in beta.

"There have been some questions on this issue and Microsoft is working to more effectively communicate details of this feature to the public," a spokeswoman for the Redmond, Wash., company said in an email.

The company plans to change the settings of the application in its next release, so that it dials in to Microsoft every two weeks, the spokeswoman said. The call-in feature would be disabled permanently when the program is generally available worldwide later this year.

Microsoft's handling of the software's distribution has also raised eyebrows. People who have signed up to automatically receive updates for Windows XP have reported receiving notification of a "critical" security update that doesn't say it includes Windows Genuine Advantage until the download process begins. Once the program is installed, it can't be removed.

Joe Wilcox, analyst for JupiterResearch, experienced the install process, and said he wasn't happy with the experience.

"I'm somewhat dismayed by the tool," Wilcox said. "They could be handling it a lot better -- with more candor and more thought."

In its defense, Microsoft said people downloading the application are presented with an end user license that they can accept or reject. Choosing the latter will abort the process.

That process, however, fails to ensure that people will know what they are downloading, since most just click through end user licenses without reading them, Lauren Weinstein, co-founder for the advocacy group People for Internet Responsibility, said. A better way would be to recruit people separately for the WGA pilot and not wrap it into the regular Windows Update.

"You don't put it in the normal string of updates when people are doing the usual click-thrus," Weinstein said. "Asserting that this is the same as people accepting to join a pilot program is a little bit disingenuous."

Microsoft said the phone-in feature is to check for updates and is a kind of safety feature in case Microsoft has to suddenly disable the program. The latter scenario would occur if the program, for example, started to report pirated versions of Windows XP on computers that had legitimate copies. No other information is passed on to Microsoft through this feature, the company said.

The program's validation feature, however, does pass along more information, notifying the company whether a computer is running a pirated copy of Windows, and identifying the manufacturer of the hardware, and its settings for language and locale. The software rechecks the computer every 90 days to make sure nothing has changed.

The idea of a software vendor deciding on its own to monitor someone else's computer, and decide how it will handle what it believes to be piracy bothers Weinstein, who believes other companies could decide to do the same thing.

"The vendors want to have a continuing communication with your system, and the ability at any point to say, 'You don't meet our standards anymore, and we want to do this to your system,'" he said. "The issue is how much continuing control should a vendor have? This whole area needs to be explored and somehow addressed with consumer protection laws."

Microsoft launched the Windows Genuine Advantage program in July 2005 to "provide an improved experience for consumers using genuine Windows XP and to help Microsoft address software piracy," the spokeswoman said. The software was first tested in Norway and Sweden in November of last year, and has been rolling out to additional countries every since.

If the tool finds a pirated copy of Windows XP, users start getting a series of reminders. In addition, non-critical updates, such as the latest version of Internet Explorer, would be unavailable. However, users who have signed up to automatically receive updates would continue to receive critical security patches.


How nice of Bill Gates and Co. Guess those naughty folks who have pirated copies of XP had better go out and buy a copy today!
PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:52 pm


Quote:
Microsoft's Anti-Piracy Tool Draws Criticism, Changes Planned
People who have signed up to automatically receive updates for Windows XP have reported receiving notification of a "critical" security update that doesn't say it includes Windows Genuine Advantage until the download process begins. Once the program is installed, it can't be removed.

(...)

"The vendors want to have a continuing communication with your system, and the ability at any point to say, 'You don't meet our standards anymore, and we want to do this to your system,'" he said. "The issue is how much continuing control should a vendor have? This whole area needs to be explored and somehow addressed with consumer protection laws."


And they say the man is not power hungry... This might make my switch to Mac earlier than expected stare

aoigetsu


Floyd

Quotable Prophet

14,750 Points
  • Money Never Sleeps 200
  • Entrepreneur 150
  • Wall Street 200
PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:16 pm


This also means I have no intention at all of ever buying a legal copy of WinXP or Vista if it has this kind of invasive spyware. No Windows application could ever justify having such a draconian system of play our way or forgo any future security and software updates. So, I have no need of BootCamp or Parallel Workstation for using XP.

Get a clue, Bill.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:11 pm


I run a perfectly legal copy of Windows XP that I got incredibly inexpensive directly from Microsoft thanks to where I worked at the time and after one hour with Service Pack Two I uninstalled and went back to SP1. I do not recieve automatic updates and seeing as how I never even use IE it's hard for the system to start s**t behind my back.

My firewall program alerts me whenever any program tries to accesses the internet, and I can reject it's connection.

Microsofts programs like to try and think for you, if don't let them, you're fine.

NeoBlue

4,200 Points
  • Invisibility 100
  • Forum Sophomore 300
  • Citizen 200

aoigetsu

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:28 am


NeoBlue
Microsofts programs like to try and think for you, if don't let them, you're fine.


Exactly. I disabled everything that is automatic and the internal firewall on my legal copy of XP and installed my own protection software. S'all good.

It's just the principle of software companies checking on you system on a regular basis without you knowing nor wanting, is just wrong.
Reply
AYGGS General Discussion thread

 
Manage Your Items
Other Stuff
Get GCash
Offers
Get Items
More Items
Where Everyone Hangs Out
Other Community Areas
Virtual Spaces
Fun Stuff
Gaia's Games
Mini-Games
Play with GCash
Play with Platinum