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And its why you, spucificly, are just a joke to us. You assume the entire movement is the same because of a few people you've delt with. I support the death penalty yes. To say you have to be pro-life and not support the death penatly is a double standard to say...being pro-choice and not supportign the choice of a rapist. I support the death penalty because i beleive that some times the only way to protect the innocent is by using the harshest penalty knwon to man to punish the guilty.

You assume that because we spend time defending the rights of the fetus when the topic of abortion comes up (not save the whales, or feed the starving children in cambodia, or make a wish foundation) that we don't care about children who are bron and runing aroudn today.

We don't support stem cell research because it has done little to nothign in the past. Unlike stem cells taken from bone marrow and the placenta of born alive humans. I however do feel it is appropriet to use what we already have built up in labs and chaches, then it needs to stop.

Animal death and animal cruelty are two diffrent things. I love my animals as much as I love my parents, siblings, and wife-to-be. But that won't stop me from using deer fur gloves. I enjoy hunting, not as a sport but as another way to sustain life. You know how much i can save at a croshry store? Instead of buying pound after pound of meat I can buy a box of shot gun shells and go out and kill a deer and fill my freezer with probably several months worth of meat. I also try to use every part of the deer. I make clothing and some times give extra meat to one of the many poor families in my neighborhood. What ever I don't use i either give to my dogs or return to the environt ment.

How ever, if I see some one who just leaves there pets out side with no shade or food and water, or beats them, or what have you, I call the proper authroities. I've had to do it several times in the past

I could go on and on too, about how you and that generalising paragraph is just a joke. You see, I don't call the pro-choice movement a joke. I can count on my fingers the few people who are pro-choice but are very respectable. Its not the pro-choice movement that is a joke to me, its the majority of the people in it.

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Dude... rock on m/>.

it sure as hell pisses me off to think that anybody could have a right, legally sanctioned, to kill her own child. not only that, but it is flaunted and misused. i could understand cases of rape or death to the mother. it's not like she decided to go ******** everyone and their sister and, surprise, got pregnant. unfortunately, the law allows and glorifies the latter. no responsibility whatsoever in the world today. i know that and i'm 17. christ, these worthless a**l-docuhe-holes need to deal with the consequences of their own actions without hiding behind their stupid a** excuses.

Good grief...

Its people like that that make me mad. They start making generalizations, and often gloss over the resons behind what we believe(i.e., dealth penalty statement. Apparently, since we believe that an innocent child has a right to life, the guilty shouldn't be justly punished.) I complately agree with you. We can only take care of so much. And since a lion wastes more of a felled antelope than you do a deer, I think they need to go chew out the lion too. Since, you know, it supports animal cruelty and all. rolleyes Anyway, its time for those people to wake up. You can't fix the world. As to the stem cell research-- well, if it uses aborted fetuses, then supporting it would make us a bit pro-choice, hm? Think about it.

"people who care enough about children to think that it is not acceptable to kill them just because we want sex MUST be a nazi!"

Right, deleting link, my bad. I also did it as a joke, thought I was posting it in the rant thread...