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Nanie Chama

Distinct Seeker

PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:57 am


--The Lolita Saftey Thread--
Suggestions Always Welcome


Staying safe is always something for a lolita to be concerned about when out in public. Many bad people exist in today's world.

Avoiding Bad Situations:
-Avoid walking around at night
-When out walking stay in a group of friends (LARGE group)
-Walk around with a big/scary looking man friend
-Stay away from scary looking people?
-Don't acknowledge their existance (but stay very cautious)?
-Avoid secluded areas

Things to Carry for Saftey:
-Keys
-Heavy Bag
-Pepper Spray
-Metal (like a trumpet mouthpiece or something that could be used for a knockout)
-Cellphone (dial 911 if need arise XD)
-Personal Alarm
-"Boob Knife"
-Umbrella thing. Parasol (sp?)

In Bad Situations:
-Guy sensitive spot = crotch, kick there
-Put your weight into your elbows when pulling yourself free or attack when arms are behind head
-Bite
-Claw with nails
-Scream (don't scream "rape" though)
-Look confident, don't show fear


mew_mew_mi-chan
Haha, saftey tips, a forte of my useless knowledge.

If you're getting into your car in an empty parking lot or garage and there's a van with a sliding door on one side enter from the other side.

Pepperspray is a good idea, but sometimes you just don't have it. I walked to the movies once and carried one of those small musk aerosol cans with me instead. Any small aerosol can should work.

If you're with just one or two friends and you think someone is following you or gives you a really odd look, make a big deal out of it with your friends. Discreetly poke fun at his physical attributes. That way if something happens to one of you the others will know of a potential suspect. Don't talk about him too loud though, it my provoke him.

If you're a parasol using loli, that's a good enough weapon.

Shoes you can easily slip off are a good idea, you can take it off and hit the attacker with it. Also, before you leave a place, like a convention, put on shoes that are easy to manuver in.

DEFINITLEY yell "Fire" instead of any cry for help, "Bomb" could work too. If you are in a place with a lot of annonymous people (like a street with apartments with open windows) you are less likely to be helped by yelling help or just screaming. Some people will watch, but they will also let the responsibility of helping fall onto another.

Do ANYTHING, and I mean anything to prevent rape. If someone is taking your panties off, piss on him. He won't expect it and it might give you a long enough chance to escape.

Go for the face if you are in a situation where you are that close and can't escape.

Scream as loud as possible. Things to attract people. "Naked woman" would probably attract a lot of people.

Never leave your drink unattended.

Observe your surroundings, possible escape routes, phones, things to attack with...ANYTHING.

Don't be afraid of getting hit back, if the person is unarmed then fight. If they have a weapon wait until it is put down or when they don't have a good grip on it.

The groin ladies (and possibly a few gentlemen) if it is a male is the number one spot to be aimed for. If you can't get to the punch them in their adams apple, it hurts.

Personal alarms! They're little keychains that make an extremely loud high pitched noise when you yank the chain out of them. I have one myself and it was heard in an assmebly of 300+ people shouting.

Your elbow is the strongest point on your body, use it if you are close enough, don't wait to get close enough though.

If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you. The chances are that he is more interested in your money than you, and he will go for the wallet/purse first. THEN RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION! <---(previous 2 from the following website)


http://www.straightshooter.net/Self-ProtectionTIPS.htm

http://www.womensdefensecenter.com/her.htm

http://michelleannese.com/diva_defense_training.html
A WONDERFUL website.

Keep in mind if you are attacked your mindset completely changes, you are no longer rational, this is something you HAVE to try to take control of. The calmer you think the more likely you are to get away.



~ A r T e M i S ~
-If you have long nails, don't be afraid to use them. They hurt like hell, and usually, your assailant will loosen his grip.

-Biting is also effective. Ruined makeup is a fair price to pay for your life, dignity or money.

-If you punch their arm, be sure to hit the muscle at the middle of the top of his arm. His grip will almost always loosen, and he'll have a slight feeling of numbness afterward, which will limit his movements slightly.

-Put 911 on speed dial, in case you don't have time to dial all three numbers.

-If you have liquid with you, chuck it in his eyes.

-Slaps and ear-pulling work rather well.

-If an opportunity appears, pull down his pants. It will nearly always slow him down.


Mizer Manakins
Gah. Thank god I'm not the only one wondering about this stuff..


I do remember a few tips, like...

Even if your lost, act like you know EXACTLY where you're going. If you look lost, predators are more likely to approach you.
Try avoiding asking strangers on the street where things are -- if you can, find the closest convenience store or Mickey D's, and ask someone who works there.

If you're waiting alone for someone to pick you up *ie. Mom*, find the nearest open well lit establishment -- like a restaurant or something -- and have them pick you up there instead of waiting somewhere outside.

I personally won't stay in an elevator alone with someone I don't know. If someone gets on *that isn't pushing a stroller or dragging little kids with them or something*, I just politely get off on that floor and wait a minute before calling another elevator. But that's just meh.
Though that's rarely ever happened. We always seem to travel in pairs or more.

I've just been taught "Don't go places alone." At Grand Session, we'd have Mango escorting us to and from our rooms. *huge college guy* and even if we were without him, we'd be linking arms and staying in the best well lit places we could find.


((Okay, the thread is in the making. If anyone has any good ideas or things to add feel free to. Input is VERY welcome! I'm not the most knowledgeable on this so... And thanks everyone for all your input and help!))
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:32 am


oh man, I had a whole e-mail with all these awesome tips for women to be safe when on their own... let me see if I can find it.

"ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot. This is especially true at NIGHT!)"

"As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP. It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked "for help" into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim."

I thought those were a couple of good ones. o.o

miss evelyn


EGL Goddess
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:33 am


really, I thought he preyed on hookers.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:12 pm


This is a good idea to make into a thread, especially if you attend conventions and like to stay late before returning to your hotel. ^^ My mom once taught me a little trick where you take your housekey, put the handle end against your palm and make a tight fist around it so the sharp end that you stick into the the door is poking out between your index and middle fingers. It's discreet, and you should do this when going through parking lots or dark places without a lot of people because you can use that sharp jagged edge as a quick and easy to maneuver blade. Plus, you can prolly catch most creeps off-guard because it looks like you're unarmed.

whee

Drywater


.Le Petit Ecolier.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:26 pm


miss evelyn
oh man, I had a whole e-mail with all these awesome tips for women to be safe when on their own... let me see if I can find it.

"ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot. This is especially true at NIGHT!)"

"As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP. It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked "for help" into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim."

I thought those were a couple of good ones. o.o

That kind of scares me. Dx

But...it's informative. n.n;
I learned new things about being safe today. =0
n.n <3

And, sorry! I've nothing to add on the subject. sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:12 pm


YES to walking in groups . . .


always carry something that COULD turn into a weapon if the need calls for it. Like a heavy bag.

p a r f a i t


Nanie Chama

Distinct Seeker

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:20 am


Drywater
This is a good idea to make into a thread, especially if you attend conventions and like to stay late before returning to your hotel. ^^ My mom once taught me a little trick where you take your housekey, put the handle end against your palm and make a tight fist around it so the sharp end that you stick into the the door is poking out between your index and middle fingers. It's discreet, and you should do this when going through parking lots or dark places without a lot of people because you can use that sharp jagged edge as a quick and easy to maneuver blade. Plus, you can prolly catch most creeps off-guard because it looks like you're unarmed.

whee

Come to think of it, my mom told me that once too! XD
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:57 pm


Nanie Chama
Drywater
This is a good idea to make into a thread, especially if you attend conventions and like to stay late before returning to your hotel. ^^ My mom once taught me a little trick where you take your housekey, put the handle end against your palm and make a tight fist around it so the sharp end that you stick into the the door is poking out between your index and middle fingers. It's discreet, and you should do this when going through parking lots or dark places without a lot of people because you can use that sharp jagged edge as a quick and easy to maneuver blade. Plus, you can prolly catch most creeps off-guard because it looks like you're unarmed.

whee

Come to think of it, my mom told me that once too! XD


XDD I thought it was a good idea.. But I've never actually had to do it, thank goodness. ^_^;; I think there are these little pepperspray keychains you can buy. And I know this sounds weird to say about pepperspray, but they're cute. XD I dunno where to get them, though... But you could attach it to your heavy bag full of keys. mrgreen

Drywater


[winged requiem`]

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:07 pm


hmm... you could squeeze the two pressure points in the back of the necks, or hit the pressure points at each of your sides. those tend to hurt.... also, if you're wearing boots, try to stomp on their feet or kick them. anoter idea is to try to hit them with fists and stuff. honestly, i've never learned martial arts or anything, but i've always been one to protect myself, in any situation. hope this helps!

tis cat~
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:30 pm


xXTeh.CatXx
hmm... you could squeeze the two pressure points in the back of the necks, or hit the pressure points at each of your sides. those tend to hurt.... also, if you're wearing boots, try to stomp on their feet or kick them. anoter idea is to try to hit them with fists and stuff. honestly, i've never learned martial arts or anything, but i've always been one to protect myself, in any situation. hope this helps!

tis cat~
The pressure points work well, and if you do it hard enough, you'll propell the people away from you.

This was discovered when my friend used me as a pressure-point experiment thingy...I shot about 3 feet away from them. xD

p a r f a i t


[winged requiem`]

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:04 pm


parfaitsama
xXTeh.CatXx
hmm... you could squeeze the two pressure points in the back of the necks, or hit the pressure points at each of your sides. those tend to hurt.... also, if you're wearing boots, try to stomp on their feet or kick them. anoter idea is to try to hit them with fists and stuff. honestly, i've never learned martial arts or anything, but i've always been one to protect myself, in any situation. hope this helps!

tis cat~
The pressure points work well, and if you do it hard enough, you'll propell the people away from you.

This was discovered when my friend used me as a pressure-point experiment thingy...I shot about 3 feet away from them. xD

heh, that's funny! at my school, (school's not out for us yet... crying ) me and my friends try to poke each other there and like run around screaming and running away, kinda weird.... sweatdrop oh! and another is to crash someone into something while they're grabbing u. 3nodding

tis cat~
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:13 pm


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Rawr <3

mmmm....
how about:
"if any man looks at you in a rude/improper way, dont acknowledge his existince."
(sorry, i cant spell "acknowledge" xd sweatdrop )
(i say that because it may provoke them.)
(this is if youre in the mall, at the movies, etc.)
hope it helps mrgreen heart


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Keruma


EGL Goddess
Crew

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:53 pm


avoid having to be aggressive!
you do not want to get into there space where they could have the upper hand.
Pressure points aren't something to rely on... you have to get close to the attacker and you can very easily do it incorrectly rendering it ineffective!
The key thing is a great idea, I've often walked alone at night and picked up random objects that would make nice weapons.
Never ever ever approach someone you don't know...
if they ask you something say no even if it's for directions to somewhere that you know. keep walking even if it's a girl, keep looking straight ahead and pretend you didn't hear them. I've found headphones give me a good excuse to act like I can't hear them. I walk some mean streets at night always by myself and I get taunts but have never had to defend myself simply because of my evasion techniques.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:33 pm


And keep in mind that if someone really wants to hurt you even having one friend around won't stop them, safety in LARGE numbers!

Rawrocious


p a r f a i t

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:34 pm


METH-ane
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Rawr <3

mmmm....
how about:
"if any man looks at you in a rude/improper way, dont acknowledge his existince."
(sorry, i cant spell "acknowledge" xd sweatdrop )
(i say that because it may provoke them.)
(this is if youre in the mall, at the movies, etc.)
hope it helps mrgreen heart


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I heard that ignoring them is actually the wrong thing to do, because it implies that you're hoping they will go away, and that you aren't strong enough to aknowledge their presence....or something...
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